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• iHorror • Season 8 • Episode 14

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This week, the boys continue reviewing films out of ScreamFest highlighting favorites such as Dooba Dooba, Damned If You Do, The Dollmaker, Cogn-AI-tive, and the new 4K restoration of Before The Fall. 

But before that they catch up on a few new releases with Predator: Badlands, The Running Man, The God Man, The Home, Bugonia, and Bone Lake! Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!

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James Jay Edwards:

Welcome to eye on horror, the official podcast of ihorror.com this is episode 154 otherwise known as season eight. Episode 14. I am your host, James Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davison, how you doing?

Jacob Davidson:

Jacob, doing fun. Just stormy weather today. Is it raining up there with you guys? It's raining down here. Yeah, it's raining down here. Raining up here. It's

James Jay Edwards:

a little late for this, though it's mid November. This is the first real good rain we've gotten, so I'm excited, except the dogs are pissed. But also with us, as always, is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing?

Jonathan Correia:

Correia, it's cloudy, gloomy, perfect weather to wear hoodies. So I'm very happy.

James Jay Edwards:

As opposed to poncho weather, it is

Jonathan Correia:

poncho weather too. Yeah, thank you for reminding me I have my poncho. It's somewhere around here,

James Jay Edwards:

only one poncho. I'm disappointed. I thought you had, like, a closet full of them. I

Jonathan Correia:

have two. I have an indoor and an outdoor poncho. Well, one sticker, that's the I'm outside if I'm by a campfire, you know, I don't want, like my indoor poncho to smell like campfire smoke. So indoor outdoor poncho,

James Jay Edwards:

all right. Well, let's get rolling with this. What's been going on? What's, what is the big new release that we've had so far was Predator: Badlands. Have we

all seen Predator:

Badlands?

Jacob Davidson:

Yeah, we've, we've seen it. Oh, we just think I loved it. I thought it was one of the, one of the best Predator movies yet. Trachtenberg really knows how to play with the genre and the premise of the Predator movie by having it from a runt predators perspective and teaming up with a bisected Elle Fanning droid, and it worked as fun as L,

Jonathan Correia:

oh yeah. I had a blast with it. I mainly goes going into it. I'm just like, I need predator action, some lore building. And they gave, they gave so much more. I was a little worried that they were going to do the have to have a cute sidekick thing that's been going on ever since, which they did. I mean a little bit, but I will fight for Bud to the end of the world and

James Jay Edwards:

give I meant that Thia was the cute sidekick?

Jonathan Correia:

Oh, I mean, well, yeah, I guess. Well, no, I mean both of them, they weren't just there to be cute sidekicks or anything, but I think they were both funny, don't get me wrong. But like that, they had actual purpose in, like, arc and story, and I really enjoyed it. I yeah, I mean, it's, I will say, though Killer of Killers, I think, is the I love that one more, but I still really love Badlands.

James Jay Edwards:

Oh yeah. I went into Badlands wanting something else. I wanted drop a Predator into cool situations, kind of like we got with Killer of Killers, and exactly what we got with Prey. And what I got was basically a lot of Waylon Yutani lore, you know, which, you know, that's fine. It's cool. You're building the universe. But the first half of it, I really liked when it's basically the predator. The premise of the thing is, this predator has been culled. He was he's supposed to be culled from his clan, because he's the weak link. But with circumstances, he kind of escapes the culling and he's going to capture his first trophy, which is this beast that even his father is afraid of. He's like, I'm going to show you. I'm going to catch this thing, the Kalisk. Yeah, the Kalisk. And when he gets to this other planet, basically everything on this planet wants to kill you. I mean, anything on this planet can kill you. Like, even the grass is like, sharp and it'll kill you. So that part was kind of cool, when he, like, gets this plan and everything's trying to kill him, and he's going on the hunt. But then it it becomes a different movie, because the the Elle Fanning character is, is a synthetic, a Waylon Yutani synthetic, and, you know, and when he finds her, it's only her top half, which is kind of funny. So he's carrying around like a backpack, like Yoda style, because she can help him find the Kalisk.

Jonathan Correia:

But she's also a droid that's never been in the field, so she's like, constantly, like, this is great. This is wonderful. Hey, did you know this? Hey, let me ask you a question about this. And it's just like, very, uh, inquisitive. She, yeah,

James Jay Edwards:

yeah, yeah. She, she loves it. She was having the time of her life. But I, I don't know, I think I just, I when it became like an alien versus predator, even though there are no Xenomorphs in it. But when it became, you know, in more of an alien movie than a Predator movie, I was kind of like, I, you know, let's go back to, you know, dropping the predator into cool situations. But I do have one issue, and I want to see what you guys think about. This isn't really a spoiler, but the synthetics that are all on this planet, there are two different kinds there, and then they all look the same, played by the same actor and actress. There's the male and the female, yeah. And at 1.1 of the males, Thea, the female is able to speak the aliens language, and she has to translate for the male. Why? Why does the male synthetic not

Jacob Davidson:

well? Because they established that the males were the combat androids while the L fanning droids were the researchers.

James Jay Edwards:

So, okay, so, so they just didn't have the translation programming or

Jacob Davidson:

check, I guess

Jonathan Correia:

only so much the CPU can hold and so

Jacob Davidson:

also, yeah, I guess they didn't think it would make sense to have, uh, the combat droids have that capability. Well, you know, it's like the the ones that are made for research and alien biology, you know, that kind of tracks with that.

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, okay. I mean, I guess that makes sense, but it that just kind of bothered me. I'm like, Oh, wait, how much programming can this, can this translation thing actually take? But I guess, you know, if you're going to take away the guy's ability to pull a trigger, listen in order.

Jonathan Correia:

Listen predator Badlands. I was expecting one thing, and it turned into, like, the greatest video game adaptation ever, because it, and trenberg even said, like, you know, it plays out like a video game, you know, it's like, you start off with all your weapons, and then you're stripped, and then you're stripped, and then you got to build up your class and all that, and then you get, by the end, you have your weapons back. It

Jacob Davidson:

also reminded me of Hundreds of Beavers,

James Jay Edwards:

which is coming back to theaters this Christmas. Yep,

Jacob Davidson:

it's a Christmas tradition,

James Jay Edwards:

and it's funny because the video game thing does track, because the bosses, you know, get bigger and you know, you're you're building your way through the the more powerful bosses. So yeah, and

Jonathan Correia:

you have to go back to previous level to get things. Oh, yeah. But I really appreciated a Predator movie where the ultimate villain was capitalism. I mean, that's that's also something that hasn't really been done before, and I appreciated the hell out of it, especially since, like, you know, with the trailers and everything they build up, that the that, you know, this giant being the Kalisk was going to be, like, the ultimate, like, showdown. And so I liked, I like, it wasn't a twist, but just like, where the story went with it. I yeah, I appreciate it and the lore building. I mean, come on, who's that? My mother, come on.

Jacob Davidson:

Without spoiling like they if you had a Predator movie from predators perspective, you got to go more into how that civilization works and that kind of species. So I'm glad they were able to do that.

Jonathan Correia:

And that opening like, chunk before he goes to the planet with him and his brother, like, that was, that was some balls the walls action with like and like, the CG performance was really good. Like, I generally was like, Wait, are we, like, having emotions for the predator character, right off the bat. Okay, this is, this is hitting

James Jay Edwards:

hard. That's the other thing. Because this one, and this is where it kind of gets into the alien versus predator thing. It flips it because Deck the predator, he's the hero, yeah, and, and this isn't something you get from Predator movies. You get it in predator versus alien movies, right? That's because the alien is more of a villain. But, yeah, this, that was, the other interesting thing is, you, you're with Deck the whole time, you know, I mean, he's the one you're rooting for when, usually, you know, you're rooting for the Native American Girl or the, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, yeah, the ninja Viking, World War two pilot or whatever.

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, it's, it's just a shit ton of fun dude. I love the predator movies, like I yeah, I just want more more. Like, so much more. I can't wait for his third one. No, his fourth one. Now it'll be have either you

James Jay Edwards:

guys seen The Running Man? No, it just came out tonight. Yeah, well, I didn't know if you guys had seen like, premiers or anything. It is it? I think I expect a little more from Edgar Wright. Oh, it's a lot closer to the Stephen King story. Then the original, it's, it's less, it's less cartoony, which is kind of a negative, because it just comes off as just another shoot them up, you know. But it's basically, it's, it's this dystopian, it, it's not really futuristic, but it's like an alternative reality where, you know, it's funny, because they call them new dollars. It's the money, and Arnold Schwarzenegger is on them. Oh, yeah, he's the face on him. But, um, this one guy, which is Glenn Powell, he he has a sick daughter, his little baby daughter is sick, and he's desperate for money, so he goes and tries out for these network sanctioned game shows that he was thinking, you know, I'll get on one of these game shows I can win, you know, 100, maybe 200 you know, new dollars and get my baby to a doctor. Well, the only one that he is, that he that they find him suitable for, is the Running Man, which is the big payout if you win this, it's a billion dollars. But you also have to run from the hunters, and it's a team of, I think, five hunters, and then they're also like the agents, which there's way more of those. And then basically you're running around the city, and you have to live for 30 days with the hunters hunting you, and the agents and everything. And also the all of the citizens of the city, they get paid for tips, you know, like, like, if they find the runner from the tips, it's a certain amount. If they capture him or kill him, it's a bigger amount, you know. So basically, everybody in the city is into you dying is what it is. And and it is a lot closer to the Stephen King one. It's more of an indictment of reality TV, I think, than it is of game shows and television entertainment, which is what the original one was. But yeah, there's no there's no sub zero, there's no buzz kill or buzz saw. There's no buzz sound, buzz kill, there's no buzz saw. There is one of the hunters does wear, like a like a mask, so you can't see his face, but it's more ice than anything else. You know, he looks like an ice agent, but, yeah, it's just not as much fun as the original. I mean, it's got some cool stunt work and some cool, you know, a lot of stuff blows up and a lot of bullets fly, but I think I just expect him. The one thing that is there from an Edgar Wright movie is the music is awesome. He that dude knows how to make a soundtrack. You know, that guy knows how to pick songs for soundtrack. It's all like, you know, gritty, urban soul and hip hop mostly. But yeah, I was, uh, I think I expected more from Edgar Wright, because I was pumped when I found out that he directed I went into it not knowing he directed it. Like I literally, when I was looking up the running time for it, I was like, Oh, this is Edgar Wright. Okay, great. Oh, plus, it's two hours and 13 minutes. Do you really need that much Running Man, and to its credit, it is actually pretty briskly paced. I will say it doesn't feel two hours and 13 minutes. So it is, that is to its credit, but yeah, it just, it's just another movie. It's nothing special.

Jonathan Correia:

I'm still excited for it.

James Jay Edwards:

Oh yeah, I mean, it's still worth seeing. And I'd actually be curious to see what you guys think of it, because maybe I'm just jaded. But you know, it's, you know, it's still cool, but it does, it does have some cool twists. And of course, you know it, it goes some places you expect it to, and it goes some that you don't expect it to. Oh, yeah, but you know,

Jonathan Correia:

well, I have a, I have a new short film available on YouTube, recommendation for you guys. Have you heard of The God Man? No. Oh, this is, this is, is a great one. It's like, 10 minutes long, nice, kind of meditative. The premise is that, decades ago, NASA discovered this thing coming towards Earth. And it turns out it's this giant being just floating towards Earth in space. And so the whole it's an animated short. And so the whole short is this guy who worked for her, for NASA, who first discovered it on the telescope, and how what it was like to be tracking this, like floating body, like massive, like store, multiple stories tall, building, building of a body just floating towards Earth, and the kind of cosmic horror, existential crisis that comes with it. It's it's absolutely phenomenal. I don't want to go into too many details and spoil it, but highly recommend it if you, if you love some like Lovecraftian and meditative. Like, God, if that's what's out there, what else is out there? You

James Jay Edwards:

know, tight. How long of a short is it? How short is short? Dude?

Jonathan Correia:

I'm like, nine and a half minutes. 10 minutes. It's like, you could, you could watch this on your coffee break. I put the phone down when you're watching it, though, because the the animation is gorgeous. It was, like, made by, like, a very small team. It's available on YouTube, and I, I just stumbled upon it because of the name I was, like, The God man, what the fuck and yeah. Animations phenomenal. So check it out. All right, yeah.

James Jay Edwards:

Have you guys seen that movie the home with Pete Davison. No, he, he basically plays this, this, this criminal, but he's not really, I mean, he is a criminal, but it's more like a graffiti artist, kind of a criminal, and he his community service is to work in this old age home. And, you know, there's something not quite right in this old age home, but it's, I mean, it's, it's a Pete Davison movie. It's, it's very similar. I mean, not similar. It has kind of vibes of like, Get out or The Substance kind of a thing where, you know, you know, something weirdly medical is going on with this and and it does, where it ends up is actually really crazy that, that that's kind of the, when you're watching it, you're like, oh, is this going to go somewhere? And, yes, it goes somewhere, but it's, it's, you know, it's kind of a, kind of a fun little you know, it's Pete Davidson being Pete Davison, which might be a positive and might be a negative for some people. I mean, he's, he's good in it, but I don't think it's much of a stretch, you know,

Jacob Davidson:

yeah, that's awesome. And I finally saw Bugonia. Oh,

James Jay Edwards:

what'd you think of Bugonia? I really liked it. Oh,

Jacob Davidson:

that's so good, yeah, it's funny, because I did see the movie. It was originally based off of Save the Green Planet!, the South Korean film several years ago. So it is interesting to see how Giorgos and his team translated that. How close is it to? To that? Fairly close. I mean, the ending is a bit different, and I feel like thematically, it is a bit different in that regard, too. But yeah, no, actually, I can't I oddly kind of like Yorgos's version a bit more. I mean, it's more topical, and I do feel like it also kind of condensed a lot of the themes and plots of the original movie. And, I mean, it's just such a good cast between Jesse Plemons and Emma Stone and and also, I did like Aidan delvis performance as Don you know, just say, like, I think this was his first movie, but, yeah, no, just it did a good job of kind of condensing from the original story. And it's also funny as hell, while still keeping a lot of the conspiracy theory weirdness of it. So, yeah, I really dug it. The

James Jay Edwards:

conspiracy theory weirdness is what's funny and it actually,

Jacob Davidson:

yeah, no, no. I mean, there is definitely a lot of that too. Yeah.

James Jay Edwards:

I mean, Jesse Plemons, honestly, best factor for me this year is a three way race between Jesse Plemons and Bugonia Dwayne Johnson and The Smashing Machine and Indy the dog. In Good Boy,

Jacob Davidson:

yeah, that's tough competition.

James Jay Edwards:

I'm stumping for it. Best Actor, Indy the dog. Yeah, no,

Jacob Davidson:

I think it's just interesting because, like, the original movie dealt with that kind of conspiracy paranoia, you know, like the early 2000s era, internet and South Korea culturally. So this is just kind of the modern Western kind of conclusion. Because, yeah, yeah. Just it did feel very much of the times.

James Jay Edwards:

Is the original hard to find. I haven't actually looked for it, but I would like to see it is, is it? Is it available?

Jacob Davidson:

So, I mean, like, I watched it on the criterion channel years ago. I mean, I don't know if it's still on there, but I'm pretty sure it's available, you know, like for streaming or rental somewhere or another.

James Jay Edwards:

Oh, I mean, I haven't looked so I not actually sure how difficult it is to find, but I would like to check it out.

Jacob Davidson:

No, the original is worth seeing, especially, too compared to Bugonia, again, tonally, they do feel a little different.

James Jay Edwards:

Yes, I just want to see how different the ending is, because the ending of Bugonia,

Jacob Davidson:

oh, yeah, it is. It is interesting to compare the the ending from Bugonia to the original. And that not going to spoil how that goes. But it is worth comparing, although I actually kind of like the the begonia version better.

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't want to spoil the ending of Bugonia, but a friend of mine, he said that, in his view, the movie ended about 10 minutes before the end, and when we stopped recording, I'll tell you when he went in his view it ended, because I don't want to spoil anything. But yeah, there. The ending of Bugonia is something else. It's pretty crazy. What about, I think we've all seen bone Lake, right?

Jacob Davidson:

I didn't, I didn't see,

James Jay Edwards:

Oh, you didn't get around to it, okay? Correia, you saw bone Lake, though I saw Bone Lake, or, as I like to put it boner lake. One of the posters had the R for the rating right next to the bones. So it's bone R lake with going into bone Lake. This is another one of those where this was not the movie. I thought it was going to be. I thought that it was going to be. I thought it was just going to be another sexually charged slasher. And it was not. It had hardcore Barbarian vibes. And also that movie from a few years back The Rental. You remember that? Yeah, it's, it had, I mean, it's basically this couple goes to an Airbnb. It's, it begins just like Barbarian. This couple goes this Airbnb, and another couple shows up who also reserve the same Airbnb from a different platform. And they're just like, oh, you know what? Let's just, you know, it's a big enough house. Let's just share it. We're both going to get complete we're both going to get total refunds because of this fuck up. So let's just, you know, make the best of it, and we'll, you know, vacation together this weekend, you know. And the results are about as predictably bad as you would think,

Jonathan Correia:

predictably aspects that are not predictable, actually.

James Jay Edwards:

No, I'm saying the results are predictably bad, meaning they're bad. But no, yeah, this movie is not very it's not easy to predict at all. You It is surprising where it goes. And it is, it is pretty crazy. I was impressed because, again, bone like you think about it, and plus all the marketing for it is so horny and sexually charged, and, yeah, and so you're literally thinking, you're like, Okay, you know, this is a bunch of young people in a cabin fucking and they're gonna all die, and that's not what this movie is at all.

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, I was, I was very surprised, because I remember seeing the first round of, like, advertising for it, and I went Bone Lake, and rolled my eyes real hard, but I gave it a solid shot. And I got to say, first and foremost, that that opening few minutes, well, without spoiling it, is a very strong start. It is a very like, oh, okay, that's where we are, yeah, and so and so. Even like in the opening, it makes you think that this is going to be exactly that, a horny slasher of a bunch of young, attractive folk, fucking dying. And it really gets, it makes almost an immediate turn into, I want to say, like a 90s sleazy thriller, like Wild Things with, like, a heavy influence of, like, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, just like psychosexual thriller where it's just like, Wait, what the fuck is going on? What when? Like, who's a trustworthy Narrator right now, because it was bouncing around a lot, and it did not forget to be goopy at the end. Actually, no wet. It was a very wet ending in multiple ways, but I had a lot of fun with it. It's really hard sometimes to, especially when you set up the expectations of there being a lot of kills and stuff, to have a film that's one location and four characters and keep the interest going. And they had me the entire time. I was not bored. I had a lot of fun with. I'm also a big fan of those 90s, like cheesy erotic thrillers, so the fact that they like played into that quite a bit. I Yeah. I mean,

James Jay Edwards:

even I just thought of, there's also a little bit of a parallel to speak no evil, that the Speak no evil remake that with James mcboy, because it is one of those deals where, like, there's so much manipulation going on, and you're like, Okay, who's on the level and who's not, you know, like it, it's pretty great. But it is not just a a cabin in the woods slasher at all, and that's what I was expecting it to be. So, yeah, it. Don't let the name fool you, and don't let the advertising fool you. I feel like they're throwing people off purposely with that advertising. I think they want people to go into it like we did, and they want people to come out of it like we did. Like, okay, good. Well, played. You know, this was not what I thought it was gonna be, because I was impressed. Like, I'm like, dude, a movie called Bone Lake. No.

Jonathan Correia:

And even the characters make the joke too. They're like, bone Lake, yes, so you mean boner, and they're like, Oh, shut up, you know? But it, yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot of fun that I thought the characters were really well done, is the relationships and how things play out. I mean, the whole bit with the ring just had me going, what the fuck is going on? Why? Why? What? Like it? Just it threw me off so hard. But, yeah, I It's a lot of fun, dude. I get, yeah, it's sleazy in all the good, all the best ways.

James Jay Edwards:

And like you said, the bit with the ring. It like it emotionally charges you. Yeah, it's like, you you start feeling things and, you know, and I don't want to, like, give anything away as to what emotion you're feeling, but it is. It's crazy. But yeah, bone lake, don't hold the name against it. And actually do go into it expecting a cabin in the woods slasher, because it's more fun that way. I mean, that was part of the fun for me. Was okay, this is not that movie, which is great. I liked that.

Jonathan Correia:

Now, Jay, I know we have a few more scream fest titles that we've been watching, and I'm I hear you. I'm excited to hear your thoughts on dooba. Dooba Dooba,

James Jay Edwards:

dooba, dooba. Speaking of crazy movies this, I actually really liked it. I liked Dooba Dooba a lot, but it is. It's almost like found footage, because most of it looks like it's shot from, like, it looks like it's like verite style. It's like it's shot from like, surveillance camera or like, like home security camera kind of a thing. But, yeah, it is.

Jonathan Correia:

But, but they like the esthetic is that, but they completely drop, like, the practicality of where these fucking cameras have been played, oh yeah, yeah, which adds to the weird it feels like you're watching, like a serial killer's like death videos or something like the whole time. It's just uncomfortable. And

James Jay Edwards:

that's kind of thing you and I don't want to spoil what happens in it, but it kind of makes sense that the cameras would be in such weird places, but it is disorienting, because, you know, you'll have like, there's a scene where the whole thing is like, this girl is babysitting this this teenager. It's like a 16 year old girl that is being babysat. And there are reasons why, that, you know, that she needs a sitter. I mean, not, she's not like, you know, really special needs, but she does have psychological issues. And there'll be issues. There'll be scenes where they're sitting at like a table, and all of a sudden the camera switches and they're on other it totally breaks the 180 degree rule and and it's really disorienting. But everything about the movie is disorienting, you know, like, you know they're playing truth or dare, and it's, it's a very uncomfortable game of Truth or Dare. But yeah, Dooba Dooba, it and again, it goes places. You know, by the end of that movie, you're like, What the hell am I watching here? And it's, it's quick too. It's like, is it like, 73 minutes? 76 minutes?

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, it's not. It's not a long it's not a long one. It knew when to it knew when to exit.

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally, yeah. It, but it, you know, which I mean, in my opinion, a movie that knows when to get out is the best thing. You know. I always say that I would rather watch 3 80 minute slashers than one Killers of the Flower Moon. You know, one, three and a which I heard the new Avatars, three and a half hours. Oh, yeah. Anyway, getting off topic, but no, Dooba Dooba, you haven't gotten to Dooba Dooba, yet.

Jacob Davidson:

Jacob, no, I had a chance. Okay,

James Jay Edwards:

do you should. I'm really curious to see what

Jonathan Correia:

you're gonna think of Dooba Dooba, it's so far up your alley, dude, yeah, because

James Jay Edwards:

it does have that shot on video, kind of thing going to but it's, but it's also more modern than just like, well, the cameras are not modern, it seems like they made this with VHS cameras. And it's also weird, because it's, it purports to be the film project of of, you know, like the final film project of someone, and it, it's, it's like there's other footage put in. Like this family, for some reason, all of them are named after presidents. You know, they're, you know, there's Monroe is the girl, but then there's Taylor and Roosevelt and all. And they go to this weird thing where they're giving you fun facts about the presidents, and then they'll cut into those and give you fun facts about Jeffrey Dahmer. And you're like, What the fuck is going

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, and it's all like, it was edited on, like, an super early version of Microsoft Movie Maker, with, like, the traditions and everything

James Jay Edwards:

and the and the overlaying text is, like, is totally like, Movie Maker, yeah, yeah. But it is, and everything makes sense. I mean, nothing about this movie is random, although it seems like it is at the beginning, but yeah, it's, it's,

Jacob Davidson:

yeah, no, I will definitely get to it when I can. Does sound like my jam.

James Jay Edwards:

It's very, not, I Saw the TV glow. What's the other We're All Going to the World's Fair. It's very, it's, it's kind of like that kind of thing. When you're watching it, you feel like you shouldn't be seeing this, you know. But there it is for you to see.

Jonathan Correia:

Great time. I also caught with the ScreamFest, Damned If You Do. Have you guys heard of this one?

James Jay Edwards:

No, I heard of it. I haven't gotten to

Jonathan Correia:

it is. It is a lot of fun. So Damned if You Do follows a group of teenage kids who sell their soul to the devil, and it's like a group of four, three do it. One doesn't. And the devil they sell their souls to is Harvey Gilliam, from what we do in the shadows, who's very over the top, like with the very first scene, I was like, Oh, I don't know if I could stand him, like, in this mode for this long, but then he won me over very quickly. Like, it was just, like, too much right off the bat, because a lot of these titles, I just went right into it as blind as possible. So I was like, there's a lot going on, but he's a lot of fun. And basically they sell their souls to have the life that they want. And for 25 years, and so at their 25th high school reunion, they're supposed to relinquish their lives to the devil and their souls. And so 25 years later, when they get back together, it One of them's like grew up, went and became a successful rock star, and she's played by Kate Siegel, and you also have Ginger Gonzaga Sagal,

James Jay Edwards:

Mike Flanagan's wife, Yep, yeah, okay,

Jonathan Correia:

she's star, and I believe one of the executive producers on it too, and then, but yeah, basically, They show up at their high school reunion, and their friend who didn't take in love let it like a pretty normal life. They tried to get her to help them in getting out of the contract because she became a lawyer. Meanwhile, yes, Harvey Gillian is the whole time is just being a sassy, sassy motherfucker. It's great. Kate Siegel's character went on to be a rock star. One of them went on to be like a sellout version of Greta Gerberg. And then the guy became basically Mark Zuckerberg in like, yeah, he's great. He's played by Paulo Costanzo, who was in like, a bunch of like teen comedies back in the day, like Josie and the Pussycats and Road Trip. If you see a picture of him, you'll be like, That guy. I haven't seen him in a minute, and he plays like a spot on Zuckerberg, like, in in like, I'm talking like Congress testimony, Zuckerberg, where you're just like things that come out of his mouth, you're like, gross. What a gross dude. But it's a really fun horror comedy. I There's a lot of heart in it. Everyone's serving cunt in it, like, everyone's looking great and like having fun. And, you know, there's some really great kills. Oh, one of the things they find out is they can keep their souls if they sacrifice somebody else. So they're like, trying to pick out who in their high school reunion to essentially take their place. And so it's a lot of like, Oh, this guy was an asshole to me in high school. Oh, this person did this to me in high school. And then, like, meet them. And so there's like, a lot of like, you know, back and forth on like, can you damn someone for all eternity just to save your own soul? Type deal going on? It's, yeah, it's a lot of fun

James Jay Edwards:

if they were an asshole in high school. Yes, you can, yeah. So that's pretty big budget. Then, I mean, this isn't like one of these little indies that we're seeing from

Jonathan Correia:

screen. Oh, it's, it's, honestly, it's, it seems pretty like, tight. It seemed like it was on a tight budget. But, like, okay, but like, every dollar was put on that screen, there's a really fun cameo that I won't spoil, but. When you see it, you'll know it. But, yeah, it's, it's, it was just a fun time and again, it came out of it was one of those came out of nowhere. And I was like, Oh crap. Like, I got five minutes into it. I was like, I gotta call Lindsay in here. She's got to watch this with me, because Kate Sagal immediately, just like, stole the scene that she when she first appears, and just doesn't stop.

James Jay Edwards:

I've done that before. I've gotten five minutes into a movie and I've paused. I go, Trish, you got to watch this movie. I'll rewind. Yeah, totally. I'll watch the first five minutes again. As far as ScreamFest titles go, did either you guys get to The Dollmaker? I think it's Encantador. Is the, it's a, I want to say it's an Argentinian movie. No, I didn't get to that one translates to The Dollmaker. This movie is, is messed up. This he is, and the guy who the main guy is, the character's name is Thomas. He gives an amazing performance. And I think he actually won Best Actor at the festival for this. But basically it's about this, this guy who he he takes care of his his aging mother, and then he also collects dolls. And at the same time in his town, these teenage girls go start going missing. And you can kind of guess where things are going, but then you can kind of not guess you know, like, you know he's a suspect and he's not a suspect, then other suspects pop in and that you know, but you can't. You can't really prepare yourself for where this movie goes. And in true scream fest fashion, this year. This movie is buckets of blood. This movie is is really violent and really, you know, everything is on screen, but everything is on the floor on screen. I mean, there's just blood, guts and entrails. Um, there's one scene that is. So it's a total shining homage. I won't even say rip. It's an homage, and you'll know it when you see it, if you get to this movie, and the whole time, I'm like, they're doing the shining. They're doing the shining. And sure enough, it plays out exactly like the shining, like even like, when it gets to the end of the scene, you're like, Yeah, they did that. Just like, there was nothing subtle about it. The filmmaker knew that people were gonna know he was doing the shining. But yeah, The Dollmaker and canta and cantador is what the translation. And it's Argentinian. I know they speak Spanish in it, but I think it's Argentinian. They

Jonathan Correia:

had a lot of, like, real, real gnarly, real, real dirty, dirty titles this year at ScreamFest I love it. That's what

James Jay Edwards:

we were talking about last time with, with like, Jimmy and and was it Dead By Dawn?

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah.

James Jay Edwards:

Real gnarly mother. There's a lot of blood and guts.

Jonathan Correia:

Love it, love to see it, yeah? One that's dirty in a different way was Cogn-Ai-tive. Also at Scream fest, it's cog, and then where it they a it's AI, because it's a whole thing about AI,

James Jay Edwards:

like a fray eyed,

Jonathan Correia:

yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. It's, it's a tech startup on the verge of launching their AI cog called Cognitive, the new AI chat. But chat bot with that's supposed to be like the fastest and most intelligent AI system. But soon, you know, they figure out, Oh no, this. All the safety features have been shut off, and so it's this, like tech The group behind it, are locked in this building, and the AI system is trying to get out. And if you hate AI, this, this film is for you. It's really because it's the entire group of these tech heads that are, like, fighting against this AI group. They're just kind of the worst of the worst. Like, it's, it's, it's the people you expect to be working on these data scraping models. Some of them have some redeeming qualities, but for the most part, you're sitting there going, God, I can't wait for this guy to fucking get it. But it's, it's a lot of fun. They have Noel Fisher from like the, think he was in the what's, what's the one of the big family with William H Macy that show

James Jay Edwards:

weeds, California. No, no. I know the movie you're I know the show you're

Jonathan Correia:

talking with the Gallagher family. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards:

I can't. I'm totally blanking on it.

Jacob Davidson:

I'm looking, I'm looking it up now. Shameless,

Jonathan Correia:

Shameless, Shameless, yeah,

James Jay Edwards:

yeah. Fun fact, William H Macy is in The Running Man, yeah, oh yeah. He has a, he has like a, like a one scene. Scene, scene stealing performance. I should say anyway, go on,

Jonathan Correia:

that's awesome. Well, it's got Noel Fisher from shameless. And he's, if you know him, from shameless. He was very dirty in that show. So it was really funny to see him all like, cleaned up, playing Super tech douche bro. But yeah, I mean, every you know people get their com offense. They're fighting it. It's very fuck you to AI, so I appreciated the hell out of it. And it was a edited by a friend of the podcast, Patrick Lawrence, who just had on the other day. So I don't know when this one's coming out, but I recommend it. It's a lot of fun.

James Jay Edwards:

Cool. Another ScreamFest, actually, the last of them that I've done for this round was called Before the Fall, which, this is a, I think this might be Chilean, and the it's translated tres Deus, which is three days. I don't know why they got Before the Fall, but basically, this movie is at the very beginning, you get, there's this asteroid coming toward Earth. It's gonna destroy the Earth in three days. So everybody is like, basically, you know, some people are just okay, I'm gonna get this over with. And they're killing themselves, and other people are just trying to live it up. And you know that people are trying to get out of town, but fuels at a, at a, at a premium, and other people are just like, Yeah, I'm just going to get drunk and listen to music. Well, the end of the world is not the main story of this movie. It's just the backdrop, because there is, one of the things that happens with this end of the world is there's a prison break, and all these prisoners get out, and this one guy, one of the prisoners, swore revenge on this family, and now that he's out, he's going to use the last three days of Earth to to get revenge, and it's all about the guy who is going to protect the kids from this prisoner So, and it's another one of those. It's like, kind of like Alone in the Dark, where it's like, you don't know, you don't know who to trust. You're like, Okay, wait, is this guy on the level? Is this girl on the level? You know you're you're like, Okay, who is this? Is this person really who he says he is? Or is this because you don't meet the the prisoner guy until that like, there's a lot of suspects in it, but it's and again, it is. It is a brutally violent movie, both with people who just want to end it because of this asteroid, or with people getting killed. And it is. It's pretty disturbed this. That movie is actually from, I want to say 2008 but it's like the 4k release that that ScreamFest had. And that's right, this. This movie looks pretty high budget. I mean, it looks great, so if that's what they're pushing, you know, well done. The 4k release does look and sound great, but the movie as a whole, I had never seen, and the movie as a whole is pretty disturbing as well.

Jacob Davidson:

Hell yeah. And Have either of you seen meat kills?

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, meat killed that. That was the, that was the one that Correia and I were not arguing. We were talking about. Was it meat kills or meat days? Yeah. Oh, right, yeah, yeah.

Jacob Davidson:

What did you see it? No, I just gotta. I do want to get around to it, though, because apparently it is getting a stateside release, and it has been getting a lot of reviews, like being really gory and disturbing.

James Jay Edwards:

It is, it has, I mean, we talked about it last screen fest. I don't want to go too far into it, but into it, but it's like, basically animal rights activists versus the slaughterhouse family,

Jonathan Correia:

right? Yeah,

James Jay Edwards:

no, no, no, no, it there, yeah, everyone comes off looking like an asshole, but it kind of has Hostel vibes in it, you know, it's which, you know, goes to why it's so disturbing and gory and stuff. But yeah, it I get, you know, Meat Kills meat days. It's weird that the translation for the subtitles was different than the translation that's on IMDb. But I guess, did you see like, a press release for it where they're calling it Meat Kills

Jonathan Correia:

at Scream fest? That's what it was called. Yeah, okay. And I think that's the North American Title for it, because sometimes they give movies different

James Jay Edwards:

titles and different Well, I know when it's because it's what is it, Veer, slog or something like that. Is what it it original title is. And the subtitles on the screener we got it said underneath, you know, meet days. So I'm like, Okay, what? But okay, I don't know.

Jacob Davidson:

No, either way. I do want to try and get to that one.

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, it's you should have a screener for it. Yeah, in your in your email, because I think you got the same emails I had so and I'm sure that we'll do another screen fest. There was just so much this year and so much good stuff. And I need to get to some of the stuff that you guys. Said, or that, you know, Correia, Damned If You Do. I need to, I definitely need to watch, Damned If You Do.

Jonathan Correia:

Oh yeah, no, I highly recommend as well, especially since, like, a lot of these ScreamFest titles we're talking about, we're talking about, like, how gnarly and nasty and like, just how like they, like bloody they are, damned if you do. It's still very bloody, but it was a nice palate cleanse of like being constantly uncomfortable or or just in, in the gnarliness. You know, it's, it's a fun time.

James Jay Edwards:

Well, let's, let's call this one an episode, and get the heck out of here. There's another one of those where it's just us talking, which is fine, after the last episode where there were five people talking, yeah, six, if you count me, who didn't do much talking. But, uh, yeah, we'll get back to Correia. Is, is his gears are turning. He's got some cool guests that he's lining up. It's just a matter of scheduling. So you'll get, if you like the guests, you'll get them

Jonathan Correia:

scheduling guests for podcasts is like trying to schedule a D and D session, it's next to impossible to get schedules without going

Jacob Davidson:

and going and going

James Jay Edwards:

or, like, scheduling a fantasy football draft,

Jonathan Correia:

which is, which is D and D for sports nerds.

Unknown:

It totally is DND for sports nerds. So let's let on that. Let's get out of here. So our theme song is by restless spirit, so go check them out. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out. You can check us out on all the socials, under eye on horror, or@ihorror.com which is the site we all call home. And we will see you in a little bit with more scream Fest and more other movies and, you know, just general banter and, yeah, see in a couple weeks. So for me, James Jay Edwards,

Jacob Davidson:

I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia:

And I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards:

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