Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
Screaming for Screamfest
This week, the boys wrap up with Beyond Fest and dive face first into Screamfest reviewing festival hits Vicious, Dead By Dawn, Big Baby, Dooba Dooba, Meat Kills, and Jimmy! Don't you worry, we have a lot of great titles so we will be reviewing Screamfest titles for a few episodes!
But first, Jacob and Correia take Choose Your Adventuring to the next bloody level with Dead Reset on the PS4 (On all current gaming consoles, we just haven't upgraded yet), Correia dives into Advertisement Horror Shorts with Fruithead and Sweet Revenge, and the boys also review current theatrical releases of Black Phone 2, Tron Ares, and Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein!
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Welcome to eye on horror, the official podcast of ihorror.com this is episode 152 otherwise known as season eight. Episode 12. I am your host, James Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davison, how you doing? Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:Doing I'm doing okay. Just October has been kicking my ass.
James Jay Edwards:You sound terrible. No offense.
Jacob Davidson:Allergy Attack,
James Jay Edwards:sorry about that. Well, let's move on to so you don't have to talk too much. Let's move on to your other, other hosts, Jon Correia, how you doing?
Jonathan Correia:Correia, I'm doing all right. You know, back from Vegas, finally, finally, no longer living in a casino. So that's that's nice. Starting to recognize what is daytime, what is nighttime, what is time in general. So, you know, starting to feel a bit like a person again. Cool.
James Jay Edwards:What's been going on this week? The big release this week is black phone. Two you guys see it?
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, I saw that Beyond Fest a couple weeks ago. Oh, cool. I saw it. Was awesome.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, I saw it a couple of days ago. It, it is not as good as the Black Phone, but it's a completely different kind of movie. It's weird because it functions as both a sequel and a prequel, because it picks up a couple of years after the Black Phone, and Finney and Gwen are they had to do it a couple years after, because the kids have grown up. So it makes it more natural, because they're, they're, they're more like young adults now than kids, but it more focuses on Gwen, and she still has her dreams, and her dreams lead them to this Christian youth camp where there are basically more dead kids that are reaching out to her. So there's a mystery to be solved there, which, of course, has to do with the grabber and his origins. So it's like a sequel and a prequel, but it's it's a different kind of movie. It's more of like a mystery than a pure horror film. So it's not as pants poopingly scary as the black phone, but it is still very much a Scott Derrickson movie, like very much,
Jacob Davidson:and I do love the shift from The Grabber being just a serial killer to going full Freddy Krueger and attacking attacking people in their dreams.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, he's very much a Freddie Creek. There's one scene in particular that is, it goes past being A Nightmare on Elm Street homage. It's a straight rip off, but I feel like it's like a loving rip off, like Scott Erickson had to know what he was doing with this one scene, because it is so Nightmare on Elm Street. The proper term is homage. Yeah, that's what I was saying. But it goes past homage. I mean, it's almost, I mean, it's a quote just about,
Jacob Davidson:also, I do like the winter setting the because, like, the previous movie was said during the spring, and this is the winter, so have a lot of the snow elements to it, which a lot of horror sequels have attempted. But I think one of the first ones really kind of pulled that off. And without spoiling too much, ice skating has evolved,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, a big part of it is this mountain Christian camp, yeah, this Christian camp that's on a lake. So there's a frozen lake and there's a, it's a, you know, it's a good time. It's not as good as the Black Phone. I wouldn't say I was disappointed in it, but the Black Phone, I think, is, is a masterpiece. I one thing about Black Phone 2, if you I watched the Black Phone the night before I watched Black Phone. And you really need to have, not just have seen but have to freshly seen the Black Phone in order to fully appreciate Black Phone 2, because it, it leans really heavily on the first movie, you know, like the mythology. So you it, it doesn't really spoon feed you what happened in the movie before you have to already know. So luckily, most people who are interested in Black Phone 2 probably have already seen Black Phone, so
Jacob Davidson:it's, well, I mean, you kind of have to see the first Black Phone in order to see the Black Phone 2. It's a progressive i.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, you know, if you you need to kind of have it fresh in your head, you know. But I mean, if, if you're into the Black Phone, I mean, it is a good, logical next step, and it almost seems like they're trying to franchise the grabber, because, you know, even though you know, another spoiler alert, you know, they defeat him again this time. But did they, you know? I mean, he's more of a supernatural entity now, and not like a he's not like Buffalo Bill, he's like Freddy Krueger now. So, you know, will he be back again? Yeah, exactly, yeah, so, and, you know, honestly, I'm fine with it. I mean, he's, the thing is, it's Ethan Hawke again. But aside from his voice, you can't really tell, because when parts of the mask come off, they have this massive makeup job underneath it. That is like, because he's dead, you know, so he's a corpse, yeah, yeah, he's, he's like Jason in Part Six, you know? He's like, So, but, yeah, it's a,
Jacob Davidson:it's cool. I really, I really liked it. I had a good time with it, and I thought that their spin on the sequel was pretty fun, like at the Q A for beyond fest. C Robert Cargill, the writer was saying that Joe Hill was the one who kind of gave them the inspiration for the sequel, and saying, like, what if the grabber called Finney from hell? And it just kind of went from there. And, yeah, I had a fun time with it too. Like it did kind of feel like the logical progression from the original, especially with the character arcs, and, you know, kind of adding the even more supernatural elements with the grabber being a ghost himself this time. And I'd still argue that Black Phone 2 is pretty scary. Like, again, you have the Nightmare in Elm Street ish sequences. Like, there, there's some pretty intense seeds where the grabber is attacking people while they're sleeping. But also, like, he's kind of an invisible ghost, so he can just, like, fuck people up, and they won't even know where he's coming from.
James Jay Edwards:Derekson plays with typical, like, horror camera tropes a lot like, you know, he does that thing where, like, the camera will move and and as it moves to the other side of the character, there will be, you know, like a dead kid or the grass, you know, you it will reveal something. But then there's a couple times he does that when you're expecting it to be there and it's not, and you're like, oh, okay, now I see where you're, you're setting us up. I mean, he's, he's, he's a master. He's one of those low key masters where, like, um, you know, he doesn't get mentioned in the same breath as, like, Flanagan or Jordan Peele or anything, but Scott Derrickson's. He's one of the up and comers too, you know? I mean, if you can call him up and coming
Jacob Davidson:because he's, he's been at it since
James Jay Edwards:Sinister, yes, like 15 years ago.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, yeah. I was also gonna say Exorcism of Emily Rose, yeah. But no, he's, he's been very consistently good, especially in that regard. So, yeah, no, he's, he's solid.
James Jay Edwards:He took a he took a detour to do Doctor Strange, but,
Jacob Davidson:you know,
James Jay Edwards:who didn't? I mean, that was the point where Marvel was, was given every up and coming filmmaker, a movie, you know? And some of it was good, some of it wasn't, speaking of under the radar movies, and this is kind of this kind of jumping ahead, because this technically was a Screamfest title, but I didn't see it on Screamfest. I saw it on paramount. Plus, have you guys seen Vicious? Oh my god, Vicious it, first of all, it has a terrible name, because it's so generic that you I wish that they had named it better. This is two of my favorite things, Brian Bertino, who did The Strangers and The Dark and The Wicked and The Monster, and Dakota Fanning and this, basically, this is more Dark and The Wicked than The Strangers. But basically, this woman brings this box to Dakota Fanning, knocks on her door and her whole the beginning of her pitch is you're gonna die unless you put three things in this box, something that you hate, something that you need and something that you love. So, you know, Davison's like, okay, whatever, you know. But then she starts realizing, okay, there's something to this, and, and, and if she fakes it and doesn't put, you know, something that she really hates or needs or whatever, it won't take it. It's like, you put it in the box, you close it, and when you open it back up. And if. Thing is still there? Nope, try again. You know you're not actually there. And at one point, like, the first thing she puts in this box is she puts her cigarettes in there as something that she hates. And at first I thought, I'm like, You know what? This is? Too soon for this. Because I thought it could that could theoretically be all three, something you hate something you need, something you love. And you know, if it was a short film, hey, game over. But the box was like, try again. This isn't actually what it is, and it leads her to some really dark places to you know, the things that this box wants from her are pretty messed up, but it is, it's, it's just such a dirty little I mean, maybe it's not renamed, maybe it's not poorly named because it's a vicious movie, but I feel like the name is so generic that it's gonna get forgotten. You know, that's
Jonathan Correia:better than calling it The Box, though, that's even more generic and done too. Yeah, I know Jacob and I have been spending a lot of time playing the same video game. We've actually had it in our hands for a minute, but I've I've already played through once, and currently playing through with Lindsay, the new dead reset from Wales interactive, the company who does a lot of those kind of choose your own adventure, ask video games with live action, which is right up our alley. I mean, we've already had choose your own adventure on the show this year, and we've talked about our love for night. What is it? Night fright? No, not night fright. That one interactive game, anywho, Dead Reset. What do you think, Jacob, I have, I'm having a lot of fun with it. Yeah, I
Jacob Davidson:thought it was a lot of fun. I haven't beaten it yet, but I played for a bunch of it. And, yeah, no, it is kind of like what you were saying that. It reminds me a lot of those old FMV games. Oh, Night Trap. It was the game was Night Trap, yeah, but yeah, no, it's basically like you're playing a movie, so like you do all these different choices, and it plays all these different scenes that could affect the outcome of the game. It's, it does really get you into into the game.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, if you guys don't know about Dead Reset, it's, first of all, it's, it's all it is, like a movie you have actual actors. It's, you're that we're playing out the scenes, and the story follows Cole Mason and asthmatic, not asthmatic, amnesic surgeon who's trapped in a time loop. And basically, when he comes to the first time they're like, You need to perform surgery on this woman and hold him at like gunpoint. And when he does, there's like, a an alien creature thing inside of her. And the choices you make, can restart the time loop or progress a story. It all depends, and there's information revealed depending on your choice, and also your choices influence how people react to you and interact with you. It's really interesting. Lindsey, and I love playing these type of games. We play the quarry and until dawn often. And sometimes, with those games, they put too much interaction into it. And so it kind of like takes, takes you out of the story a little bit, because it's, there's times where it's like, Oh, you got to run. You got to run. But also, kind of want to a character hasn't died in a while. I kind of want to make this choice, you know. And so it's, it's nice to kind of have it be boiled down to choose one or the other choice. But there still be so many branches. I can't imagine how many times they re shot. Scenes for this like, I want to see what the map of footage is, because it's insane the amount of like, choices and branches you can do by making these two choices, and still have, like, all this influence on the game, on how it plays out. But it's it's a lot of fun, and it's bloody too.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. No, there are a lot of extremely violent deaths and creature effects and creature effects that kill people in really gory ways. So it is definitely horror. Even has a honestly, kind of has a bit of a Dead Space vibe to it. And, you know, they do a lot with a little,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun. We're doing a play through right now where Lindsey and I take turns making the choices, and it's, and I like doing that, because it's, it's fun to be like, Wait, well, wait, I wouldn't have done that. What do you why did you do that?
Jacob Davidson:So I'm sure it shakes things up.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, so Dead Reset. It's, it's a lot of fun, and it's available on just about every platform I know. Jacob and I were playing on PlayStation 4. But It's also on Steam, next gens, all of them. So check it out.
Jacob Davidson:Oh yeah, it's everywhere. Cool.
James Jay Edwards:Another thing that I saw, which I am not sure if I'm breaking embargo or not, but I don't care. I'm going to talk about it. I saw Frankenstein, the new Guillermo del Toro,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, I'll be seeing that in a few hours.
James Jay Edwards:I'll be interested to see what you think of it. It is long, and it feels long, that's the thing. It's two and a half hours, and it feels, it feels like four hours. It's a beautifully made movie, which you would expect from Guillermo del Toro, but I feel like there needed to be an edit in there somewhere, because it is. There's not really dead space. But there I had issues with the pacing. There are lulls in what goes on. And you're like, you know they you know this, this meeting could have been an email kind of a thing. It's more. I mean, he took some liberties with the book. But the monster, which is Jacob elordi, he, um, the monster is more. It is more like the book than we're used to seeing, because the monster is actually, he's, he's kind of intelligent. He's, he's like a he's like a child. You know where, like he gets born, and then you've got to, then he's, he's learning things. And as he learns, he gets more and more cognizant and and he realizes that that basically Victor Frankenstein, who's Oscar Isaac, is was playing God when He created him, and he kind of resents him for it. So it's a little bit of, you know, philosophy there, but it's, I mean it, it's kind of a double edged sword, because it's a really well made movie, but the pacing is, I mean, it's glacial in places, which is kind of funny, because there's a lot of, there's a lot of ice in the movie, but it, um, but, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's definitely a GDT movie visually, because, You know, it's kind of got that steampunk thing happening, and, yeah, it's an experience. I'm hoping that for awards voting, Netflix usually sends out these big boxes full of swag with their movies, and I'm hoping I get one for Frankenstein. I'm hoping there's some good stuff that comes. I will trade. I will trade my coffee table book of the Irishman and Roma for for one, about the art of Frankenstein, because I think it's going to be a pretty cool, it would be a cool coffee table book, but, yeah, it's, um, I'll be interested to see what you think of it, Jacob, because I think that you're gonna like it, but I'm wondering if you're going to have the same issues with pacing as I had.
Jacob Davidson:Well, I'll see how it shakes out. But yeah, no, I'm literally seeing it in just a few hours over at the Egyptian but no, I've been very excited for this, like I know Guillermo del Toro is a massive Frankenstein fan, to the point where, when I was visiting his exhibit at the LACMA museum that he actually owns an original first edition copy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
Jonathan Correia:Wow, that's insane. Yeah, that's awesome.
Jacob Davidson:That thing's gonna be worth a fortune. Is it signed?
James Jay Edwards:That would be incredible. Yeah, you can tell that he has a respect for the story, even though there are some liberties taken with it. You can tell that he's and he wasn't setting out to make a pure horror movie like James Whale was with his with the original Frankenstein. You know, it's more of like a gothic tale with horror elements. It's, it's it's not particularly scary, but, you know, it's, it's more, it's kind of like what Shape of Water was for Creature from the Black Lagoon. This is for Frankenstein, you know, it's, except it's not modern. It is. It's a period piece, but, but, you know, it's kind of like, you know that all the themes and the main skeleton of the story are there, but it is a it's, it's, I mean, it's, I struggle with it, because it's a beautifully made movie, but there were parts of it when I was just looking at my watch, going, okay, you know, can can we get to some more stuff happening?
Jonathan Correia:I mean, it sounds more like in tune with what the actual book is. Because, I mean, the original book is more Gothic tale and, like, ideology. I mean, there's entire chunks of it where it's Adam, the creature, just droning on and on, which is great, but if you're doing that, yeah, he
James Jay Edwards:does that. He it's almost like. It. There are something because it's divided into A into two, Victor's tale, and then the creature's tale. And at one point, because Victor's tale tells like the creation of it, and then when, when it escapes, and you want to know what it's been doing, until the whole thing is told in flashback. At the very beginning of it, there's this ship that's like iced in, and the crew is trying to free the ship. And then they see off in the distance there's a fire. So they go and investigate, and they find Victor, and they bring him back to the boat. But as they're bringing him back to the boat, the creature is like attacking them, because the creature wants Victor. So they get him on the boat, and he tells his story, and then the creature shows up, and because all he wants is Victor, he doesn't want to hurt these sailors, even though he is because he's trying to get to Victor, or to, yeah, because he's trying to get to Victor. So when he gets there, he's like, Okay, let me tell you my side now, you know so and he is very wordy and articulate, which is, you know, something a lot of people don't know, Frank that the Frankenstein's monster is because he, you know, he has a brain, but it's like a child, and he has to learn. But there are times when you're just like, pining for the James Whale Frankenstein. You're like, Oh, dude, shut up, and let's get on with this movie. Because he talks, you know, he talks a lot, but
Jonathan Correia:that's the book. Yeah, exactly. I Yeah. I'm looking forward to, after a century of quiet, Adam, I'm looking I'm looking forward to the droning, one, one thing. Well, I should say two things, because these are both shorts, but it's kind of the state of the industry right now. There's two horror shorts that were released that have major advertisement tie in with it. One is, have you guys seen Fruithead?
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah, I saw it. The gushers commercial horror short,
Jonathan Correia:Bradley, Whitford, so if you guys don't recall, there was these gushers commercials in the 90s where kids would eat a gusher, and their head would turn into fruit and they'd go, Radical! And so gushers commissioned a like 10 minute short film where Bradley Woodford plays the director of those commercials, and he's like, I needed to be more, more realistic, more so he uses a spell book to cast to craft this gusher that actually turns a child's head into the fruit head, and which leads to this horrific scene of this kid eating and then going, Oh, what's happening? It's not right. And you see Bradley Woodford with, like, his little fucking terrible facial hair and ponytail like typical director look stereotype the 90s. And he's like, that's not the line as, like the kid screaming as his head starting into fruit. And then one of the designers comes up and goes, Hey, art department just did this with this new thing called CGI. He goes, Oh, that's great. Let's do that instead. And then, years later, the kid comes back to seek his revenge on Bradley Whitford with the Fruithead. I thought it was a lot of fun. I mean, it's, it's a 10 Minute commercial production, but it also it feels, it feels like, like one of those, like, Too Many Cooks type things where it's like, hey, remember this nostalgic thing? Well, we twisted it and are having fun with it. But it, it was commissioned by Gushers, which I think is, is fun. It's a fun thing to for them to put money in. What do you think, Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:I thought it was really funny, because, you know, especially for like, the stuff is trying to be scary and playing all these tropes. It's at the end of the day, like you said, it's a gushers commercial. So it is just such an absurdity to it that even though it's kind of disturbing, it's also really funny, because, yeah, it is playing off of that nostalgia. And again, just a crazy ass situation with, yeah, the kid who got his head gushered Going full The Strangers on Bradley Whitford did his Hollywood mansion. It's just so funny.
Jonathan Correia:It's, it's so good. There's, like, some weird stuff where Bradley whitfords characters like struggling to eat fruit, and he's got gloves on and stuff like, it gets real weird, and I appreciate that they, they really went for it. And, like, the entire time, it does have that layer of, like, gushers paid for this. This isn't like, Yeah, this isn't like, someone like that, that other fake commercial thing where it's the kids turning into, like, the silver stuff in the from the Capri Sun commercials, that horrific internet video. But yeah, they they really went for it. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's on YouTube. Highly recommend it. It's 10 minutes. It's a fun time. The other one that I watched was Sweet Revenge, which is also available on YouTube. It's a it's the first thing made out of the Jason universe, because I guess they sorted out the rights with Jason, and now they launched a whole thing called the Jason universe. And the first thing they made is a 16 minute Friday, the 13th short film. It's directed by Mike P Nelson, who did the Wrong Turn reboot a few years ago, and also did one of the V/H/S/99 or sorry, VHS 8980 that 85 V/H/S/85 titles, and it was done in partnership with Angry Orchard. And it definitely was made in partnership with Angry Orchard. It's not like they were, like, super egregious with, like, showing, like, oh man, you know, like, it's a group of, it's, it's, it's a Friday 13 story, group of teenagers go to Camp Crystal Lake for vacation, and Jason crashes the party. There was really interesting implication, or, like, how do I say there was really interesting ways that they incorporated the angry orchard brand. There's like, some really weird bits with like the people who own the cabin and apples, that was like weird and uncomfortable. And then, of course, whenever they're partying, they're drinking angry orchard. But outside of being a commercial, because it is at the end of the day, angry orchard paid for it, I thought it was incorporated pretty well that it wasn't distracting. But as a as a Jason short, it it feels like a fan film. And I don't know if it's just because it's as like a reintroduction to this iconic character, or the fact that we've seen so many fan films come out over the years while the rights issues were being resolved, but as like a as like a Jason shows up and kills a bunch of campers. It's a fun time. I was really surprised on how the score was. It's very 80s, very all that. And did have kind of a moment of like, when are you going to do it? When are you going to do the Kiki mama stuff, and when it and when it happens, it's the right moment. So it's, it's a lot of fun that 116's minutes. Hey, you got a half hour. You can watch both of these. But they're both interesting because it's kind of where the industry is now. No one's wanting to pay for anything district, at least on the distributor sides of things. And so I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of this kind of sponsored content being more integrated into the stories and everything. And you know, there's some pros and cons to that, but if at the end of the day, having angry orchard be incorporated into Friday the 13th leads to more. Jason kills I'm okay with it. Always down for more.
Jacob Davidson:Jason, yeah, and it sounds like we'll be getting more of him in due time.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah. I just, I need a Friday the 13th. Friday 13th feature, like, just do it. Do it, you cowards.
James Jay Edwards:One thing that we have all been kind of watching, and I alluded to a little bit earlier with Vicious is that scream fest is it's that time of year again, and we have all been kind of flooded. I should say, in fact, this is probably a part one of two, because I know I'm not talk about, yeah, I there's a lot to talk about and a lot to watch. And I know that I'm not through, I'm not through even half of the
Jacob Davidson:screens that we got. So we have a wealth of movies to choose from. Yeah, it's such
Jonathan Correia:a, such a first world problem. Oh, no, we have too many horror movies to watch and review.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:but let's start off with Dead by Dawn. Yes, you guys get to this.
Jacob Davidson:Yes, I did get I didn't get to that one. This is Jacob.
James Jay Edwards:I was gonna say, I want to hear what you think of this, Jacob, because this movie has you written all over it.
Jacob Davidson:Okay, Dead, by Dawn. I will put a pin in that.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, let's this movie is, I mean, this, it's like, it's almost like a giallo but, but it's more my, I don't know. It's weird. It's, like, got that. It's shot like a giallo, but it has a more modern killer, I feel like, and I loved, Where have I seen that killer design? The killer is like, where's this mask of like, all these eyeballs, and it looks so familiar. Where have I seen that before?
Jonathan Correia:So for some context. Is Dead by Don's a Polish film, and it's about these group of young actors who are summoned to a theater to bring this, like avant garde, like dance play, to life, and there's a killer on the loose in the theater, and
James Jay Edwards:theater is cursed. The theater is like, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:it was, it's one of those, like, this building was built for rituals and, like, all this stuff. And, like, it's the killer, yeah, it has this mask, and it's covered in eyeballs, which is very, I still haven't seen it. It's, I've owned, like, three copies, but delirium, I think it's called where it's has the person, where the head is one giant eyeball. That's what it kept reminding me of, at least,
James Jay Edwards:well, that's the residents, the that band, the residents
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, or the residents
James Jay Edwards:Yeah. What it reminded me of is, what was that? Channel Zero, not Channel Zero, that that creepy pasta TV show where Channel Zero, but, but the was that the citizen that had the teeth
Jacob Davidson:guy, yeah, zero, with Candle Cove,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, yeah, yeah, the Candle Cove, the the teeth guy, it reminded me of the teeth guy, but with eyeballs. That's why. Yeah, it's, it's really but, but I've seen that somewhere before, and I can't put my finger on the whole time, I was like, Where, what is that mask referencing? But, yeah, this, this movie, um, it goes pretty, you know what? All of the ScreamFest that I've watched so far, they all go really hard, like, hard, yeah, dude, there, yeah, there are entrails over these movies, and this one is no exception. These kills are bloody and brutal, which is more the giallo thing, I think, but it, yeah, this is
Jonathan Correia:a dip by Don was a lot
Jacob Davidson:of fun, dude. I gotta watch that one. I'm putting it on my, on my to watch list,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, moving up to the front. This is very much your shit.
Jonathan Correia:This is, it's, it's like, the first two thirds of it is very, I kind of want to say it's like post nu metal cinema, gialla slasher. And then the third act just goes absolutely bonkers, because it's almost like, because this whole time, because, you know, and we say gialla lot, because there's a lot of color with the lighting, a lot of, like, very stylized with it, and, you know, black glove killer and all that. And then, like, the third act, it's almost like the movie remembers, oh yeah, all that ritual shit that we set up early in the movie. Let's get into that. And when it does, that's when it really hooked me. I was like, Oh, we're getting into what I really want and love out of this stuff. And yeah, it goes for it's a lot of fun. I thought it was really interesting, especially incorporating the stuff of the on avante garde play dance into the final act that the actors were doing earlier in the film. I thought was really cool and interesting. Very, very much. So invoke Supiria a bit with that. So, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a nasty little movie, and I had a lot of fun with it.
Jacob Davidson:I'll have to check that out on my end. Did either of you guys see Big Baby.
Jonathan Correia:No, that's on my watch list. Yeah. Okay,
Jacob Davidson:yeah. Now, this one was a lot of fun. I was drawn to it specifically because it's the latest film from spider one who some of you may know as Rob Zombie's brother, but who's been making a lot of horror movies the last several years like his most recent one was Little Bites, which was produced by Cher, because Chaz Bono was involved as the producer and actor. And it's the same with this one. The big baby was produced by Cher, and also co stars Chaz Bono, and I think this might be spider one the best movie yet. Yeah, so basically, it's about this horror screen writer who just had a movie out. Forget the name, but it was like this werewolf movie, but like that, he had to deal with the fallout, because, like all these horror podcast douchebag, they're shitting on his movie. And what really gets him is like one of them tells him to kill himself, and he goes into kind of a depressive spiral with his girlfriend, and then he starts getting these nightmares at the stroke of inspiration about this giant, a hulking dude with a giant with a screaming baby mask called Big Baby, and talking about how he's going to kill all the people who did him wrong. And he starts writing the script, and he and he, and he thinks that it's his best work yet. But then he starts seeing big baby in real life, and he starts seeing the. Murders as though they're real, so because kind of a meta fictional slasher movie situation and, but yeah, there's a lot of gore, and, yeah, it it's a lot of fun, and it does kind of play with a lot of the horror tropes and even a lot of kind of horror community and the current landscape of horror media and reviews, so I thought it was very fascinating in that regard. Yeah, no, I do highly recommend it
Jonathan Correia:nice adding that to the top of my list. Another one that I think is right up Jacob's Alley is Dooba Dooba, Have either of you Dooba Dooba, Did either of you watch Dooba Dooba? See that one yet? Oh, man, Dooba Dooba. It's a great title. Dooba Dooba is. It's an analog horror film. I think there's going to be a lot of people comparing it to Skinamarink because of its analog nature, it's not as ethereal, I want to say, as Skinamarink. Skinamarink was definitely, I don't know that was on like another plane of existence, but Dooba Dooba, it follows this babysitter who's hired to watch over this 16 year old, which already is, like, that's a bit too old to have a babysitter, and it's as as the night goes on. You know, more is revealed on, like, what happened. So like the 16 year old, the reason why she's getting a babysitter is because she's still reeling from her brother being killed while she was in the same room as him, and so the family have all these CCTV cameras all over the house, and it's too many cameras, I would say, with, because the filmmakers definitely were like, All right, that's the premise. That's the reason why it looks and is the way it is. But like, those cameras were everywhere, and such weird angles in usage with it, which I love because it's like, oh yeah, let's, let's give you barely enough information on why it looks or give it enough justification for the look and placement of this. But they just went crazy with it, and I loved it. There's also a lot of like, weird and interesting cut ins with, like, what looked like early Microsoft movie editing, with like, transitions and stuff and like, it's like, you're watching the tapes just like, record out. And so there's random inserts of, like, you know, TV, like, presidential stuff. I don't know it's really weird. It's very atmospheric with its analog nature. And I had no idea where it was going for most of the movie, which I which I enjoyed, because I was like, I don't know what's about to happen next, or what, where is this going? And it's a, it's a fun little nasty number. So yeah, Dooba Dooba Jacob again, I think it's, it's right up your alley, because it, it really does give that, like, SOV feeling of like that kind of punk rock nature that comes with like, SOV Horror.
James Jay Edwards:cool another one that I watched that I and I'm, I'm gonna butcher. This name, it's from the Netherlands. It's Vleesdag. It translates to Meat Day. And it is about this, this, this revolutionary group who they're like animal activists. And they go to this pig farm, and they they want to go and release all these pigs. They want to liberate the pigs, but the owners of the pig farm are tipped off to the fact that they're coming, so when they show up there, there are no pigs, and they kind of went into a trap, you know. So it's kind of like you have the animal activists against the slaughterhouse. It's a family owned slaughterhouse, and honestly, neither side. There are really no heroes in this movie. Both sides kind of come off as assholes. So and you know, like Dead by Dawn, there's a lot of just entrails spilled all over the place. And it's, there's one scene in it that is very reminiscent of Apaches. You'll, you'll, you'll know when you see it. Correia, but yeah, it's, it is, is there's just like blood and guts and gore spilled all over the place. And, I mean, I guess one of the animal activist girls is kind of the heroine, but even she's not that likable, you know, you're, you're, you're not really rooting for her to die, but you're, but you don't care. You know, you. You, you kind of are like, okay, you know, let's see, you know, on to the next one. Let's see some people die. But it's, it has kind of a Hostel vibe in more ways than one. There's, like, in fact, there's a couple places we were talking about Black Phone 2, you know, channeling Nightmare on Elm Street. There's a couple places where this actually, I think, channels Hostel. I think the filmmakers, they had to have been aware of the Hostelreferences to this. But yeah, it was a, it's Vleesdag or something. It translates to meat
Jonathan Correia:day. Is it meat day or Meat Kills? Meat
James Jay Edwards:day is what the subtitles said. But I think in IMDb, it's Meat Kills. So I don't know. I don't, although I should know Dutch by now, because another one of the movies I watched Jimmy. Have you guys gotten to Jimmy? No,
Jonathan Correia:no, that one came in when I was like, I don't have enough time to watch another screener.
James Jay Edwards:But yeah, really well, Jimmy is really short too. It's like 80 minutes or something like that. Jimmy is another one from the Netherlands, and there's this, this guy named Jimmy, who went to a mental, a mental asylum, and he killed himself and all of his, all of the his schoolmates, and, you know, friends who, quote, friends who kind of drove him crazy. Are they start, you know, dying in horrible ways. So it's kind of a slasher movie. But again, all three of these movies that that I have watched so far, they're really bright and neon. I'm wondering if that's like a trend from from these eastern European, you know, or northern European countries now, because Poland and the Netherlands. We're getting these, like, bright neon colored movies coming out of there. But yeah, Jimmy is and again, Jimmy goes hard. There's these movies the shit, and maybe it's just the three that I've happened to watch so far. They spare no expense on the effects, and they look like they're all practical, which is beautiful, you know. I mean, they're, when they cut someone open and their intestines spill out, you know, you're you can tell that that blood's really running down that actor. It's pretty good.
Jonathan Correia:Oh no, I love it. Because I was just the other day bitching about how we don't light movie, we don't light things anymore. We don't, you know, it's, it's all kind of that digital post where everything's too dark, especially when it comes to horror. And so it's, it's really refreshing being able to see things happen, and not only just see things happen, but like people kind of going back to that, like, stylized, like, you know what? It can be bright as fuck at night, and you still registers in your in like, the viewers bring that it's nighttime. Like, it's okay to see everything, guys, we still know it's nighttime. Like, come on,
Jacob Davidson:better to see more than to see nothing.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, but yeah, so far, like the scream fest, titles that I've seen have all been bangers and nasty little fuckers, and I'm having a lot of fun. So yeah, we'll definitely be reviewing a lot more over the next few episodes.
James Jay Edwards:Nasty is the perfect word for them, because, yeah, they these movies are all just yeah, they're
Jacob Davidson:should be called gore fest, even, even
James Jay Edwards:Vicious. You know which it technically, it's a Screamfest title that's paramount. Plus that one goes pretty hard to like I say it's more Dark and The Wicked than the strangers, and I'm going to leave it at that, but, but if you've seen dark and the wicked when you're watching the vicious, you'll know exactly, why, absolutely.
Jacob Davidson:And as an aside, I did actually attend ScreamFest in person for a day, and I went to a demo, or like demo video of the new Hellraiser game, Hellraiser revival. Have you guys heard about it?
Jonathan Correia:Is it? Is it another 4v one game? Because they've been doing that a
Jacob Davidson:lot. No, no, no, no. It's not, not like that. Okay, yeah, no, it's a one person game, and it's kind of a direct continuation of Hellraiser. And Clive Barker actually co wrote the video game, and Doug Bradley is back voicing pin head, and it does look very interesting. Again, they showed, like the first half hour of gameplay footage, where it's basically, you're this guy who's in a BDSM relationship with this woman who has found the puzzle box, and mid coitus, she opens the puzzle box. And as these things tend to happen, the cetabytes show up and take her into the labyrinth. And you start showing up in the labyrinth, and it's just well, because, like the first 10 or 15 minutes of game, you're naked and running around the labyrinth from Hellraiser two, and you're seeing like the engineer, and sometimes the cetabytes pop up. But then it does do an interesting twist. Said that you go back to the real world, you kind of go back and forth where, it turns out, she stole the puzzle box from this cult that worships the Cenobites and are like sadomasochistic freaks who like to torture people and get tortured. So there is some action elements and some people you could actually fight. So you got to, like, fight your way through these guys in the underground torture club, but then you also sometimes end up back in the labyrinth, and there is kind of an extended, not really boss fight, but like, chase sequence, where chatterer, the one with the teeth, you know, is coming after you, and you're running through the labyrinth, but the lab group keeps changing, and the chair teleports. You have to go back and forth and back and forth, and it's very hectic. Yeah? So it got just a taste of what the game would be like, but it does look like a lot of fun, and it looks very disturbing and gory as fuck. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:That's that's so interesting, because as soon as they're like, Hellraiser game, it's like, well, how are you going to do that? Is it just puzzles. Because I don't know if you guys remember the Saw video games back in the day where it was basically like, you know, the God of War button, you know, timed thing. And, you know, it's always tricky, because when you're adapting like a horror movie like that, the best parts are the kills and but in a video game, you're trying to avoid being killed. But also, Hellraiser is very like, rich in mythology, and like I You got me with the story. That sounds really cool and interesting, but I definitely, when they first announced I was like, so is it a 4v one thing? Is it a Doom type game where you're fighting
Jacob Davidson:thing, it's first person perspective. Also, I compare it to like, Resident Evil seven survival horror, but first person and oh yeah, no, there's, there's death and gore by the score, rest assured.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I'm stoked. I know we got to go soon, but I gotta, I gotta mention Tron Ares before we dip out. Oh yeah. Did either of you watch it? Nah. So I would like lifelong Tron fan. I definitely went in going like, I just need some Tron action. I need a slutty ass nine inch nail score. And I need Gillian Anderson. That's all I need, because I was already, you know, not looking forward to Jared Leto in it. And I gotta say, it delivered on all those it's very much so it's a Tron movie, and almost every respect of it good and bad, and it's absolutely serviceable. It's fine. The problem is Jared Leto, not only him as a person, but also just anyone. Could have played that character. He was so wooden and really just kind of ruined what was a perfectly fine Tron movie. There's a really cool sequence where they go into Kevin Flynn's backup server, which is where you get your Jeff Bridges cameo that they've teased in the trailers and all that. But the whole world is in that classic, like the first movie, very 80s, with the graphics, and you have the one bite character going, yes, no, and everything, and it's really cool. And like, immediately I was like, All right, we're in this. And then it just cuts back to Jared Leto, and he goes classic. And it's just like, Come on, dude, there's a whole thing where they're showing him kind of, like, develop feet, or like, talk about having feelings which programs shouldn't have, and he's talking about Depeche Mode, and how he loves Depeche Mode, and how it's giving him feelings. And I've never heard someone describe their favorite band and what it does to them emotionally so cold and wooden, it immediately filled me with rage. I was like, take Depeche modes. Name out your mouth. Like, don't, don't try to ruin it. And the second time they did, I just full, full on, threw my arms up in the air. Was just like, fuck off. But yeah, I have to say, not since West Side Story was like a lead actor so miscasted and just completely derailed. What otherwise would have been totally just a fun movie, you know. So, yeah, Tron Ares. I mean, it's serviceable, but Jared little really fucking ruined it cool.
James Jay Edwards:And on that note, we're gonna get out of here more scream fest to come. Like I said, this was a part two. There might even be a three parter, because there's
Jacob Davidson:a flood of stuff, so much ground to cover, so many Gores, so little time.
James Jay Edwards:Yes, yes, so much blood, so little time. But for now, we're going to leave you. So our theme song is by restless spirits, so go check them out. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out. And you can check us out on all the socials at eye on horror or@ihorror.com which is the site we call home. And we will see you in a couple weeks with more screen fest. And I think we got a cool interview coming up, but I don't want to jinx it, so I'm not going to say more, but yeah, stay tuned. We got good. Stuff coming up, and everybody go see black phone too. So for me, James Jay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson:I'm Jacob Davison.
Jonathan Correia:I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards:Keep your eye on. Horror.
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