Who's a Good Boy!?!

This week, the boys are back after Jay's birthday (and has an insane take on PT Anderson movies), Jacob attends A LOT of premieres at Beyond Fest, then Correia finds some new podcasts and gets into Government Conspiracy cover ups about mermaids (living in a casino for a month will do that) before getting into some of their planned Halloween celebrations.

But first! The boys review Good Boy, One Battle After Another, Primate, Night Patrol, V/H/S Halloween, Dust Bunny, The Serpent Skin, Deathstalker, The Smashing Machine, Mermaids: The Body Found, Him, Night of the Reaper, and Star Trek: Khan. 

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James Jay Edwards: 0:25

Welcome to Eye on Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com. This is episode 151 otherwise known as season eight. Episode 11. I am your host, James Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davison, how you doing?

Jacob Davidson: 0:41

Jacob, doing good. Just kind of sleepy. Getting into why I've been so busy lately. And also, it's an appropriately cloudy and gloomy second day of October. And also happy Yom Kippur, everyone,

James Jay Edwards: 0:58

yep. And also, my birthday was last week.

Jacob Davidson: 1:02

Oh, Happy belated birthday.

James Jay Edwards: 1:03

It's a, it's a, it's a big week for us. Also with us, as always, is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing?

Jonathan Correia: 1:11

Correia? Happy belated birthday. Jay and happy Yom com, Lord Jacob and everyone else. I am getting to the end of my fourth week out of four and a half weeks here in Vegas working, and I don't know what's real anymore. I don't know where we are. Been up all night. So this is the actually my end of my day. So yeah, I'm looking forward to going home, seeing Black Philip and Lindsey and getting some actual fucking sleep. That sounds nice.

James Jay Edwards: 1:47

That's funny. You say seeing Black Philip, if people don't know that's your cat,

Jonathan Correia: 1:52

oh yes, my cat. Black folk, actually, the real order is looking forward to my bidet, my cat, and my fiance in that order, because, let me tell you, hotel toiletries after a month, after a week, drives a man crazy. I can

Jacob Davidson: 2:13

only imagine.

James Jay Edwards: 2:14

Let's hop right into this. I saw here. Look, here's the deal. My birthday, I went to Disneyland, and it was totally awesome. And I got back from Disneyland to in my email box was a screener for Good Boy. Oh, nice to see Good Boy. And I think Jacob, you saw the Beyond Fest, right?

Jacob Davidson: 2:37

Okay, I got to see Indy the dog do a Q&A, okay?

James Jay Edwards: 2:41

So jealous, dude, Good Boy, dude. Correia, you need to this movie is so awesome. It's so good. The funny thing is, it uses, it pretty much uses the regular haunted house and ghost movie tropes, but because you're seeing it from the point of view of the star, it's not really the point of view of the dog. It's more like the dog is in every shot of the movie. So you're kind of seeing what the dog is doing. But but it makes these tropes fresh, seeing that, seeing it, how this dog is seeing it, and it's so good, it's like and first of all, here's the thing I'm always going to spoil about movies like this, the dog lives, he doesn't die. So, yeah, you're, you're safe to go see it. But this movie is, I mean, it's, it's both horrifying and heartbreaking. So just because indie lives does not mean, you know, he doesn't go through some shit, but, but it's, you're safe to see it. The dog does not die. It's so good, though. It makes me feel like a failure as a dog owner, because this dog is an amazing actor, and they get, they get a performance out of this dog. And did hear it's 73 minutes long the movie. And I did hear they had 400 shooting days.

Jacob Davidson: 4:01

So, yeah, it took them three years to make it like, I think, two years production and one year post production.

James Jay Edwards: 4:08

Yeah, so who knows what's on the cutting room floor. You can do a lot in editing. But Damn, this dog is hey, give it the Oscar.

Jacob Davidson: 4:17

Give in, give Indy the Oscar. Indeed, the indeed the dog is his name,

James Jay Edwards: 4:22

yeah, not even the animal performance, Oscar, Best Actor. Oh, this is so good. What do you think of Good Boy?

Jacob Davidson: 4:30

I really liked it. I do also agree that it was kind of an interesting kind of perspective flip. And the director, you know, even talked about it at the Q and A about how, you know, it was just kind of Poltergeist from the dog's point of view. Ben Leonberg, and, yeah, no, I mean, it had some pretty tense scenes, especially with, you know, it's like, you're saying the dog seeing. Something that his master doesn't and also has a really fun Larry Fessenden cameo, yeah, as as most New York indie horror movies are want to do. But yeah, no, I thought it was rather unique. And it Yeah, for and for, you know, first feature film, I thought it was, was a good effort. And yeah, I mean, it just being at the Q and A, it sounded like they really put in so much effort in into making this. So you got to appreciate that. And I also have to add that Indy the dog was at the Q and A, and had a little bow tie, and a bandit actually taught him how to bow, so he took a bows, and everybody gave Indy a silent applause, because, you know, he's a dog. He can't, like, make loud, you know, loud noises, so everybody's silent

Jonathan Correia: 5:52

applause. Man, I've just been loving all the photos coming from that premiere of Indy. He just has, like, the biggest smile. And I think he's just the coolest dog.

James Jay Edwards: 6:02

He's a very charming dog. Even it because the crux the movie Indy is 100% the main character, all of the people in this movie, you don't even really see their faces. It's either cut off by the angle, or it's in shadow. You kind of see Larry Fessenden's face, because he's like the grandpa, and it's in home movies, but it's still, it's on a statically old black and white TV. So you, you know it's not clear. Indy is the only character you actually see clearly in this movie. And that dog is just so well trained and so charismatic. I mean, that that dog is, is is awesome

Jacob Davidson: 6:42

is, yep, who knows? Maybe Indys got a real career ahead of themselves.

James Jay Edwards: 6:47

Hope so. The best thing about good boy is it is. It is a gimmick, you know, but it's one that works. But the best thing about it is that it's 73 minutes long, like I said, if they tried to stretch it any longer than that, I think the gimmick would have gotten a little stale. So it's, it knows when to get out, which is awesome. And honestly, I've watched the screener twice just because it is 73 minutes and it's so good. I'm like, oh, you know what? I have enough time for good boy. Again, it is, oh, it's so good. This, this is a, this one's gonna end up in my top 10. I'm I'm calling it right now. It's gonna end up somewhere in my top 10.

Jonathan Correia: 7:29

That's awesome. I have a so I've been, I've been in the casino, so I haven't been able, you're living in a casino, I should say. And so I haven't watched a whole lot, but one of the new films I have seen is One Battle After Another. Oh, yeah, yes. Did you guys catch that one yet? Yeah, I saw it

Jacob Davidson: 7:47

in 70 millimeter IMAX at the giant ass universal AMC theater.

Jonathan Correia: 7:52

Oh, man. I just saw it in the Cinemark XL? XD Theater, which was nicer than the dorm one, but it was still great. I mean, man, I look PT Anderson, he hasn't, he hasn't fired a blank yet, like they've all been, they've all been fired. And this one, especially,

James Jay Edwards: 8:12

he's fired nothing but blanks since Boogie Nights. Oh no. I am 100% serious. I am not really a fan of PT, and I thought I'd gone over this with you guys. I don't really like PTAs movies, except for Boogie Nights, but really, but I absolutely love Boogie Nights. It's my favorite movie of all time, and I keep seeing his movies hoping he makes another Boogie Nights. And Licorice Pizza for me, kind of came close, One Battle After Another, didn't I was not really a fan of it at all. The only things that I liked about it, I love the score. The Johnny Greenwood score was awesome. Oh yeah. And it was very un Jonny Greenwood. It was like, it was just sparse piano and and was real dissonant. So I know a lot of people who didn't like the score, they were thinking, they think it sounds like someone just putting their hands on piano, and I can see that because it is real dissonant. But I thought it worked for the movie really well. And that that car chase, which, if you know, you know, there's a car chase towards the end of the movie that was insanely shot, but the rest of the movie just didn't, didn't do it for me, but PTA doesn't do it for me since Boogie Nights. So yeah, I was, I was not a fan. I thought I'd been over that with you guys. No, no. Like comma, my complex relationship with PTA Well, we

Jonathan Correia: 9:43

know you love Boogie Nights. I mean, you mentioned Boogie Nights almost as much as I mentioned Star Trek.

James Jay Edwards: 9:49

I do. I love Boogie Nights and but I don't really like any of PTAs other movies. I mean, like I said, Licorice Pizza, licorice pizza, I did like, but I didn't love. It's like a distant second to Boogie Nights. But I keep watching his movies, hoping the lightning is going to strike twice. But yeah, I One Battle After Another. I was not really a fan of

Jonathan Correia: 10:12

well, I loved it. I thought it was really smart, because the film hand, like, tackles a lot of, like, heavy things going on between the revolutionaries and the many different levels of complexity that come with that, especially with the make the character of the mother, whose name, the characters name is escaping me, which she has

James Jay Edwards: 10:34

the coolest name, something Beverly Hills, yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 10:36

yeah. Like Priscilla. These revolutionaries

James Jay Edwards: 10:40

all have, like, fake names, like, there's, what is it? Is it Jungle Pussy? Is that? Well, one of them, yeah, she's like, total blaxploitation. And then there's, it's something like Tiana Beverly Hills or something like that. And Leonardo DiCaprio, they call him Rocket Man. And Alana Heim is in it again, and she's Mae West, you know, these rebel it's kind of like a Cecil B Demented kind of thing where, and it seemed I even had issues with the politics they were trying to put in there, because it seemed like they shied away from stuff. I think he could have taken a bigger stand on some of the political stuff, especially for how timely it was. But also, speaking of names, that's actually, it's another thing I love about this movie. You could not have named a character better than Colonel Lockjaw. Sean Penn's character, Lockjaw,

Jonathan Correia: 11:34

no Sean, I think that was one of Sean Penn's best acting and roles in years. He was phenomenal. And just everyone was so good,

James Jay Edwards: 11:45

Sean Penn, and it probably was part of the character, but he was walking everywhere, like he had to take a dump.

Jacob Davidson: 11:51

Yeah, he's very rigid. Also take a step back. It should be noted that this is based off a Thomas Pinchon story, so it's kind of like, you know, like Inherent Vice. So, you know, a lot of the naming stems from that,

James Jay Edwards: 12:02

but the pension book took place in Reagan era 80s. Yeah, no updated for modern times. Yeah. And that's where I think that PTA kind of not, I won't really say he chickened out, because he went further than a lot of filmmakers have been, but I think he could have tackled some of the things like the concentration camps and stuff like that. A little more head on,

Jacob Davidson: 12:23

yeah, although I think also just a lot of the focus of the movie is also just the kind of pass off of generational revolutions and the problems of the past coming to haunt the children of the next generation. Because, you know, a lot of it is just about Rocket Man trying to connect with his daughter, and like he's kind of fallen on the wayside of the revolution and is just kind of obsessed with hiding insecurity and but, yeah, the world's catching up to him and his daughter. So, you know, it's unavoidable,

Jonathan Correia: 12:58

yeah? And I mean, the movie opens up with them breaking in and breaking out, people out of an ICE detention center. So, I mean, like, the politics are definitely there, and everything with Benicio Del Toro's character,

James Jay Edwards: 13:13

he was awesome too. Okay, so maybe there's more about this movie that I like than I initially thought, because Benicio Del Toro's Sensei was pretty awesome.

Jonathan Correia: 13:22

Oh, dude, that was such a all these characters were so well rounded and complexities, especially Beverly Hills. I mean, there's so much with her character that I absolutely loved of her being of the revolution and like kind of being Die Hard revolution. But it's only when the times are kind of working in her I don't want to say when the times are good, but are working her favorite because, you know, she turns when she is caught, and everything, which complexes things. But it just it, I was it was crazy, because there it, there's a lot of politics that are, you know, in the film, but it wasn't being super preachy, which is, it's crazy when there's, you know, people shouting Viva la revolution every 10 minutes, but because they have Leonardo DiCaprio character being almost dude, like from The Big Lebowski, just kind of bumbling through it, You kind of have like, those moments of, like, breathing because of it, because like, these intense moments are happening. And I know a lot of people are talking about the car chase scene, but the riot scene in that town was very haunting and crazy, and the rooftop Chase was very tense, because you see him falling behind, and you know he's gonna fuck up, and then he falls like three stories through a tree, and it just turned into the funniest moment. And I was not expecting it to be as funny as it was that

James Jay Edwards: 14:50

movie, but I didn't find it funny. That's the thing. People are billing it as a comedy.

Jonathan Correia: 14:56

I wouldn't say comedy, but I would say it has comedic moments.

James Jay Edwards: 14:59

It. It. I mean, yeah, there are most of it. Most of it is Benicio Del Toro, because his, his, it's not, he's not really a funny character, but he's, his portrayal is funny, but, yeah, it. I think the funniest thing for me about it was how DiCaprio character, he's kind of like a burnout, because basically these revolutionaries, they get, they get put under a microscope because one of their people goes states evidence. So they have to scatter, and they have all these code words and passwords to prove who they are. And DiCaprio has done, has smoked so much weed that his brain is fried, so by the time he needs to remember these passwords,

Jonathan Correia: 15:42

yeah, and

James Jay Edwards: 15:44

he's getting pissed at the people he's saying them to who are like, because he's a legend within this organization. So he's like, No, you don't understand who I am, but I don't remember the damn password, you know? And they're like, Oh, if you cannot answer the past question, I cannot assist you further. Yeah? So, yeah, I guess talking about it here, there's probably more to it than I liked, than I initially thought, but yeah, as it just didn't really do it for me,

Jonathan Correia: 16:13

understandable,

Jacob Davidson: 16:14

yeah, and on the other side of things, or, you know, it's been taken up. Most of my time is Beyond Fest started in late September, and it's a big one this year. In fact, that it's the biggest Beyond Fest ever, like, it's two and a half weeks this year,

Jonathan Correia: 16:34

yeah? Oh, dude. Crazy lineup. You guys got going there? Yeah?

Jacob Davidson: 16:41

And I mostly been working it, but I've managed to see more than a few films. And when I went to see Good Boy, I saw Primate that knew Johannes Roberts movie. Oh, man, it was a lot of fun. And if you're afraid of chimps, this is the movie for you, because it's basically about like a summer get together with a bunch of teenagers and their family works in sign language, and they have a pet Chimp, and the chimp got rabies, so it's Cujo, but Cujo is a chimp.

Jonathan Correia: 17:17

Nice. How does it compare to other killer chimp movies, like Shadow of the Kilimanjaro.

Jacob Davidson: 17:24

Never saw that one, but, you know, I'm thinking like Monkey Shines, or, you know that one segment of Terra firmer, where that little monkey tries to kill Brian Cranston, and it made it solid, like they, of course, it's not a real chimp like they use like, a combination of, I think, costume and practical effects with a little bit of CGI and, yeah, no, it's a scary fucking chimp. Once he goes full rabid, you know, he's just like, don't want to spoil anything. But if you know what a chimp can do to a person, then you know how bad a rabbit chimp can fuck somebody up.

James Jay Edwards: 18:02

They got they're strong, if you've seen the opening scene of, Nope, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 18:07

oh yeah, that too. Also, it's funny because, or it's fun because it's got kind of the 47 Meters Down angle, or just, you know, kind of entrapment thing, because, because the chimp has rabies. And they say this in the movie. I'm not sure how truthful it is, but it was saying that chimps can't swim, but also just, you know, when you've got rabies, got hydrophobia, so that, because the chimps got rabies, he won't go near the wall. So all these teens are in the pool, and they have to stay in the pool try to figure out a way to get around it, because, like, the chimp can't get them while they're in the pool, but at the same time they're stuck there. So it does make for an interesting situation. And yeah, I think it comes out in January, but yeah, I recommend it. I had a fun time with it, like it was very, very rowdy screening. And, yeah, and you know, I like the 47 meter down, 47 meters down movies. So I think this is kind of a fun companion piece on top of that. And, yeah, but no, we got a lot of good stuff. I saw big drum, Little China in 70 millimeter with Jon Carpenter, Dean Cundy, so that that was a good time. It was beautiful print that they found in England. Yeah, and let's see what else. Oh, yeah, I got to see Night Patrol, the new Ryan Prowse movie, which all you need to know is, the tagline of the movie. Is defang the police. Nice.

Jonathan Correia: 19:44

That's very, that's very, my five, yeah, I'm in. I'm in. You sold me.

Jacob Davidson: 19:49

You sold me. What's worse than cops, vampire cops?

Jonathan Correia: 19:54

I could see that. I can see that. I mean, both are blood suckers.

Jacob Davidson: 19:58

Oh. Oh yeah. And also the alternate tag and yeah, actually, I'm wearing my promo Night Patrol shirt right now. And also on the back, it says ACAV love it, yeah. And definitely another big highlight for me was that same night they were playing V/H/S Halloween.

James Jay Edwards: 20:23

Oh, how is that?

Jacob Davidson: 20:24

Oh, it was so much fun. I mean, I'm a big fan of the VHS movies, and, you know, because, you know, it's some of my favorite things that I like found footage, I like anthologies and sticking with a theme, you know, because, like, last time with V/H/S/Beyond, it was all sci fi. This, it's all Halloween themed, and it's a fun time, like, they really run with the concept, and also, a lot of kids get killed in this one. Like, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, like, you know, because you know, Halloween is a holiday for kids. So a lot of these segments have a lot of children getting destroyed or eaten by monsters.

James Jay Edwards: 21:05

What directors are in this one? Anybody that we've heard of?

Jacob Davidson: 21:09

Yeah, no, there's a pretty good collection of directors for this one. Like, I think most prominently they got Caspar Kelly, the guy behind, you know, like Too Many Cooks and The Yule Log movies, and, yeah, he does a segment called Fun Size that does kind of fit those tones. Is like, these adult trick or treaters go to a house with, like, weird, unheard of candies, and they, you know, it's one of those, take only one candy, only buckets. And of course, to take more than one and this horrible candy band named fun size like, takes them to this candy factory, and don't want to get too much into it. But yeah, it's like a really demented kind of Charlie and a chocolate factory situation. And yeah, let's see. Yeah, got Brian and Ferguson, Michelin, Pitt, Norman RH Norman, Alex Ross, Perry, Paco Plaza, annavik, which is the complete set of directors. But yeah, no, I liked each of their segments in their own ways. And although I'd have to say a particular highlight for me would be RH Norman and Michelin Pitt Norman segment, which is the final one, is called The Home Haunt. And again, I don't want to go too deep into it, but it is basically about this guy in Burbank. Because, you know, if you around LA or California, that in Burbank, there's a lot of home hunts there, because a lot of people from FX live up there, and they do something that makes the haunt a little too real and shit gets crazy.

James Jay Edwards: 23:03

I'm gonna set Correia off right now. Isn't Casper Kelly, the guy who did the Scooby Doo project, too?

Jacob Davidson: 23:10

Yes, that is the same. Oh, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 23:12

No, I was, I was explaining my tattoo to someone in the casino the other night. Yeah. No. Love it nice. No, I'm excited I fell off or fell behind with the V/H/S series. So I think that might need to be a part of my Halloween plans this year. Is to, is to catch up and watch this new one.

James Jay Edwards: 23:29

Because, you know, I'm, I'm not sure if I've seen them all my I tried to keep up. What was the last one? Was it 84

Jacob Davidson: 23:36

none of those V/H/S/Beyond, okay, beyond?

James Jay Edwards: 23:38

I Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm behind or not on them, because I tried to keep up with them, because I do like them, but I feel like they've been coming out so steadily that I may be behind as well, because I do like them, but I I may have missed, I may have missed one or two,

Jacob Davidson: 23:56

but yeah, no drops on Shudder tomorrow if you want to catch that

James Jay Edwards: 23:59

One awesome. Are all the rest of them on shudder too?

Jacob Davidson: 24:06

I don't know. It's like a weird thing where, like, the year VHS is like, 94, 99, 85, Beyond, and Halloween will be on shudder. But the original three, I'm not really sure exactly on their statuses. But I think most, I think they might all be on Tubi, like, I checked VHS and VHS viral on to be, I'm not sure about two, but yeah, they're, you know, they're probably around,

Jonathan Correia: 24:31

yeah, yeah.

James Jay Edwards: 24:32

I think I may even own digitally, the first three, it's, it's the later ones that I'll need to catch up on, that I'll need to to, I'll need to watch the for, you know, basically the wraparound, to see if I've seen them, to catch up. But yeah, I think that the first few, I think, predate Shudder. So yeah, they weren't shudder exclusives, but I think that ever since they, ever since Shudder, they've been Shudder

Jacob Davidson: 24:56

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, I'm sure, yeah, there was a whole. Old rights shifting or something after Viral. But yeah, no, I really do like what they've been doing with the franchise the last several years. And at the Q and A the producer Josh Goldbloom did allude to a theme that they were kicking around was V/H/S Florida. So brace yourself for that. If that goes

Jonathan Correia: 25:22

down next year, they need to actually film that in Florida, though, like, you can't location, yeah, you can't, you can't get that vibe anywhere else.

Jacob Davidson: 25:31

Yeah, would be wild. And I do have a few more Beyond Fest watches I'd like to bring up, sure, okay, yeah, and let's see. I also got to see Bryan Fuller's new and first movie, Dust Bunny. And it was delightful, delightful. Yeah, it's basically about this little girl whose family is eaten by a monster under her bed, and she thinks her neighbor is a Monster Hunter, but he's actually a professional assassin and hit man, and it's Mads Mickelson, and she tries to pay him to kill the monster under her bed. And it's just very charming, like a friend of mine put it best. It's like if John wick was directed by Jon Pauls, Jon, you know, it's got a very quirky, very Euro style. And it's, you know, it's, it's pretty, pretty out there, you know, just kind of this kind of mashup of genres, but very whimsical. And yeah, Math and Math, Mickelson is very heartwarming in this. But yeah, no, I had a lot of fun with it, and I would definitely recommend it. It's, it's a good time. And I, and, you know, I've been a big fan of Brian Fuller's television work, but I really hope this kick starts a whole feature film career form. Because, like, you know, this is just his first film. Like, I would love to see more. It's pretty wild, you know, just conceptually, but yeah, really good hook and great cast.

Jonathan Correia: 27:17

Sounds awesome, yeah, no, I love Hannibal, so definitely gonna have to check that one out.

Jacob Davidson: 27:21

Yep, and let's see. I saw the new Alice Maio MacKay movie The Serpent Skin, which was very interesting. It kind of felt like her own kind of pink, opaque Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, you know, girls discovering themselves, the psychic powers and yet. And last night was a big one. I got to see Deaf stalker, the new Steven costansky movie.

Jonathan Correia: 27:51

Oh, nice. Did it live up to the hype of being an awesome throwback to those action fantasy films of the 80s?

Jacob Davidson: 27:57

Hell yeah, it did. And I mean, it's, it does feel in line with those movies, while being kind of tongue in cheek and purposely camp. But no, it's so much fun and it and I love it because it has what made me love Dungeon and

Dragons: 28:15

Honor Among Theives, and that it does feel like an actual D&D campaign, and that it's very chaotic and people make mistakes or do stupid shit like Pat Oswald is the voice of this little goblin wizard named doo dad, and when he's introduced like he tries to do kind of like a match missile thing, but he keeps missing And he keeps accidentally hitting death stalker. I love that. Yeah, no, it's, it's really funny, and there's so much practical effects and Matt, Matt paintings and backdrops and stuff. Like, there was a scene where it's like, little practical x, little demon frog thing jumps out of the water, and everybody applauded because it was so cool. Like, that's, that's the kind of movie, you know that it was, and people are into I, yeah, it is such a good time. Like, I cannot recommend it enough.

Jonathan Correia: 29:09

That's awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. I love those movies.

Jacob Davidson: 29:14

Oh, yeah, no, I saw the original Deathstalker and Deathstalker 2 when Joe Bob Briggs screened them on the last drive in. And yeah, they're being They're fun. They're Roger Correia sword and sandals movies. And funny enough, they actually use some footage from I think, the first death stalker movie for a flashback scene that they do and kind of going over the lore of the world. And as an aside, it is funny. I actually saw the third death stalker movie, death stalker in the warriors of hell when I was a kid on Mystery Science Theater. 3000 nice yeah, as it goes. But yeah, Steve, but yeah. Deaf stalker is going to be in theaters soon. So yeah, if you can see it theatrically, I would definitely recommend. Dancing with with crowd, because it is it like at the beyond fest green last night, people are cheering and laughing really hard and applauding after these big ass fights. It is just a good time.

James Jay Edwards: 30:14

Oh yeah, also in in theaters soon, actually, by the time this post, it'll be in theaters. I saw the smashing machine. Oh, nice. Which is the new it's the new eight, four joint. It's Benny Safdie directs it. And reason it's not really horror, but the reason it's applicable to this podcast is Dwayne The Rock Johnson as a as a movie. It's pretty average, because it's not that interesting of a story. It's about Mark Kerr who is one of the original UFC fighters from back when it was, you know, illegal in 49 states, and there were no rules. And basically, you could see a boxer fight a jiu jitsu guy. Or, you know, mixed martial arts wasn't really mixed. It was like, you know, you had your strikers, then you had your submission guys, and, you know, you know, you you would have, like, a ninja fight a karate guy, you know, kind of a thing. And it um, Mark Kerr was one of the pioneers of that old sport. And it's pretty much just a typical story of him, you know, he the the he gets his ass kicked for a living, and he gets addicted to painkillers. It's that, basically that kind of a thing, not, it's not super interesting of a story. You know, you've seen it all before, but I think what we're witnessing here is the rock moving from movie star to actor. I know we had that big discussion with how Dwayne Johnson is a movie star and he can carry a movie just being himself well now he actually becomes Mark Kerr and he's got some acting chops, and it's not just the facial prosthetics and the wig that they have him in, either he's, he's, he's got some depth, it's, and also him and Emily Blunt, we saw a little bit of it with Jungle Cruise, but they have some chemistry. They they work really well together. But yeah, that's the big draw with the smashing machine, is come see the rock act.

Jonathan Correia: 32:19

Well, I would argue that the rock has already displayed his serious acting abilities. And Jay, you and I talked about this a little bit before recording, and you thought I was alluding to Rampage, which, let's be honest, George was the star of that show. But really the rock's best acting and showing range was Southland Tales. Come on that the third act finger thumbling was, was was, was a choice, good or bad. I don't know exactly to you, that's how I feel with that movie, with every bit everything.

Jacob Davidson: 32:56

And it is funny, because Southland tales was the inflection point for the Rock's career, because he really loved the movie. He really loved Richard Kelly, and unfortunately, the movie didn't do good at the box office, and that's kind of what put him on the path to doing more blockbuster features. So had Southland Tales been a success, he probably would have done more stuff like that.

James Jay Edwards: 33:18

Yeah, well, and maybe, like The Smashing Machine, because it's an A24 it's like a, technically an indie, and there aren't really any big names in it, besides him and Emily Blunt like the third main character is a character named Mark Coleman, who is Mark Kerr's best friend. He's another fighter, and he's played by a real UFC fighter who hasn't, doesn't have any other acting. And I forget the guy's name, but he's actually pretty good at it too, but he's probably playing a version of himself, you know, which, you know, I mean, he's believable, probably because he's playing a version of himself. But, yeah, The Smashing Machine is, you know, as a movie, it's nothing you haven't seen before, except watching the rock do his thing. And it's pretty it's funny because at one point he's getting ready for a big fight, and he shaves his head, and all of a sudden the audience is like, there's the rock. He doesn't have that that hair piece anymore. It's kind of kind of funny, but yeah, it, I mean, it's worth seeing, especially if you have those free tickets from AAA24

Jonathan Correia: 34:28

couldn't use mine. I do have two kind of off the beaten path things I want to bring up. One is Correia got into a new podcast, which is, historically, I don't listen to podcasts, which is weird, because we do this, but recently, Everything is Terrible. Started a podcast with Spectravision, yeah. They released their first episode, or first two episodes. It's the other week, and it's a video podcast. And they even said, when Spectravision approached us to do a podcast, we were confused, because we're a video format thing. So the first two episodes are actually part one and part two of one of their mashup videos called from their 100 Best Kill series called 100 Best Kills: Satan. So it's a super edit of all these insane scenes of people either dying by satan or Satan is being involved, and it is ADHD and satanic as fuck. So I highly recommend seeking it out, because I don't think it's been played since they showed it at Fantastic Fest few years back, and so I highly recommend that.

Jacob Davidson: 35:50

Where can I find it?

Jonathan Correia: 35:52

Spotify. It's on Spotify. Yeah, it's on Spotify. So if you look up, Everything is Terrible podcast, it should pop up. Okay, yeah, it's a fun little time to put on in the back. The other thing is, I, I don't even remember. I think it was probably Instagram real, let's be honest. I was Doom scrolling. And someone brought up, like fake documentaries, and I got intrigued by one by animal

planet called Mermaids: 36:18

The Body Found. Do you guys remember this one?

Jacob Davidson: 36:23

Oh, yeah, I remember that one. So it was 2011

Jonathan Correia: 36:28

and Animal Planet put out this fake documentary about these scientists who find parts of a body of a mermaid, and it turns out that the government has this huge conspiracy covering up the existence of mermaids, and especially watching it in 2025 it's the funniest fucking thing, because people bought it as real, because Animal Planet wasn't doing fake documentaries. They had since, like, done another one about dragons being real. And then for shark week, one time it was about, they did one about sharks, and by that point, Megalodon, I think, yeah, which Megalodon makes an appearance in this too. And it's really funny, because it's so clearly actors pretending to be scientists being interviewed and stuff, and then they have actors doing the reenactment and stuff. And it's really silly. The CGI is not that great when, which is fine when they're doing recreation, but when they're saying, like, this is the actual footage of a of a mermaid. It's silly. But throughout it, they do this kind of like Walking with Dinosaurs CGI scenes showing, like, the evolution of mermaids based on the aquatic ape theory that you know, when ancient ape our ancestors started becoming man, they went land, but some went into the sea and became mermaids. And let me tell you, whoever wrote those scenes went hard and they didn't need to, like, they show like, 400 million years ago. This happened 300 million years ago, 20 million years and there's one scene where they show a mermaid encounter a bunch of whales, but then a megalodon starts hunting the whales, and so this mermaid, who's a scout for the group, goes to warn the rest of the group that there's a megalodon nearby, and when he catches up to the group, you see the Megalodon start to swim below him, and it's going for that other group of mermaids. So that mermaid stabs himself in the side to bleed, and then swim up close to the surface, and he's and there's like a moment where he's gazing out to them, and one of the mermaids turns around, and they like, lock eyes, and it's really sad. And you just see this, the Megalodon come up and chomp the mermaid that stabbed himself to sacrifice himself to save the others. And it was just like, Why did you have to go so fucking hard? It's like that dinosaur documentary I told you guys about a while ago, where they gave a dinosaur brain tumor. It was just like, you didn't have to do that. You didn't have to be like you're creating this thing. Why did you have to make this so fucking sad? And then they did a follow up, like a year later, which was even more ridiculous and more silly and more horror bull CGI, but yeah, it's a it's a fascinating and weird artifact of a very specific time, and I highly recommend it. But also got to warn you, if you purchase it on voodoo for some reason, about an hour in the special just restarts randomly. I thought I was having a brain aneurysm, because I was like, wait a minute, didn't this footage already show and, yeah, I played out the whole thing again, which was weird.

Jacob Davidson: 39:52

Yeah, have to check those out. Also, I wanted to weigh in, because I saw Him not too long ago, after our discussion last episode. And I did. I liked it. I thought it. I thought it was pretty fun. And yeah, now with Jon, though that the production design and esthetic was really interesting. But yeah, no, I kind of, I kind of dug, you know, the sort of dark side of an American institution like football and a lot of the stylistic choices. Also, Marlon Wayans gave a hell of a performance. Like, I thought he was great. And, I mean, yeah, it felt a little flawed, or, like, caught up, I don't know, something, something felt weird with the pacing, like, I think it was edited and post or something like that, but overall, I thought, I thought it was pretty interesting.

Jonathan Correia: 40:49

Yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. I I feel like, if I see it again, my opinions may either strengthen or weaken, but I had a lot of fun at that screening.

Jacob Davidson: 41:01

Yeah, I just wanted more of the killer, weird mascots, like they should have. They should have used that more. Should have had a gritty, evil, gritty,

James Jay Edwards: 41:11

I wish that they had explained that a little more, too. And I know that i i When you both had seen it, I kind of I mentioned, and I don't want to spoil anything. So I'm not going to mention here, but I mentioned something that I a question that I had about it, which kind of had to do with with the evil mascots, and I that's one of the things that I feel like they didn't quite explain. You know, that that was one of my big questions. Was something that happened with that? But, yeah, no, whatever,

Jacob Davidson: 41:42

there is a level of ambiguity which may have been purposeful, or, again, it might have been some kind of weird editing issue. Like, I just kind of assumed they were meant to be like, because, you know, there was some kind of cult themes. Like, maybe they were supposed to be like idols or incarnations, I don't know, but yeah, they look cool, like the production designs of costumes were really good.

James Jay Edwards: 42:05

I am going to go to Jay's book nook here for a second. Jay's book. You guys know that we were Correia is talking about podcasts. You know, one of my favorite podcasts is the Mr. Ball and podcast. And he has a couple of graphic novels. One is the motto of his show, is strange, dark and mysterious. And his first graphic novel is called strange, dark and mysterious. And he basically takes stories from his show, and they're illustrated, and it's it's pretty cool. He has a new book that just came out. I actually just got it in my pre order came in on Tuesday. It is now Thursday, and it's called, uh, where nightmares live. And this one is more these. I'm only about halfway through it, um, this, this one is more kind of supernatural and there. And the stories are also more open ended, where, like, there's not always it'll tell you the story, and then at the end it'll be like all and, you know, and, and this has never happened since, and you're like, Well, what was the reason for it? That, you know, it's like the theater of the mind kind of thing, where it's letting you fill in the blanks yourself. But they're pretty spooky stories. I mean, Mr. Ballin is, he's a master storyteller. And basically this is putting visuals to his stories. So you're into that kind of thing, you check out his podcast. It's called Mr. Ball and you can get anywhere you get podcasts, and if you like that, check out his books, his graphic

Jacob Davidson: 43:38

novels. Oh, yeah. And on other new releases, I actually watched this new one that dropped on shudder. Have either of you guys heard of Night of the Reaper?

Jonathan Correia: 43:51

I've heard of it, and I've heard a lot of people, or seen on letterbox a lot of people watching it.

James Jay Edwards: 43:57

It's a babysitter movie, right? Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 44:00

yeah, it's a babysitter slasher, kind of a Halloween thing. It's by Brandon Christensen, who actually did the Puppet Man, Z, Superhost. So it was, well, we watched Puppet Man together. Not sure if you guys saw Z or super host, but yeah, I really like his output. And, yeah, no. I mean, it's kind of a throwback. It takes place, I think, in the 80s. And, yeah, it's about this serial killer that records and specifically targets babysitters who's dressed as the Grim Reaper. And, yeah, it, I can't really spoil it, but it does some interesting subversions or kind of twists to the specific sub genre in the slasher but, and yeah, very stylistic and really hits the esthetic. So yeah, I know I dug it and can't get too into it, but yeah, just check it out and let. Know what you

James Jay Edwards: 45:00

think? Is it on? Shudder.

Jacob Davidson: 45:02

Now, yes, it is.

Jonathan Correia: 45:03

Okay, cool. All right, you know, I actually, I just remembered, I there's a second it's, it's not a pot, it's kind of a podcast, but it's an audio drama series called

Star Trek: 45:13

Khan, yes, we're back, baby Correia talking about Star Trek, but it's all about what happens from the episode of Star Trek, the original series, Space Seed, where you first meet con and ultimately spur, ultimately, Kirk and CO abandoned them on city alpha five, and cons return in Star Trek two, Wrath of Khan. And so you get to see what happened, because when they were left on that planet, it was a thriving planet, but then a neighboring planet exploded and turned it into a desert wasteland where people died. And it's been really interesting to listen to. It's really well done. The voice work is incredible. They got George Takei to come back because there's some flashback. It starts off with like a scientist looking into the history. So there's a bit of a flash forward. And also Tuvok is back as well, but it's him as an ensign, and it's really interesting. But I think the most or the best part about it is the voice cast themselves. The voice of Khan is Naveen Andrews from Lost he's really good as as Khan, because Ricardo Monteban was just it's so big and theatrical, but like always had that center of emotion in his performance, and I feel like Naveen not only captures that, but also makes it his own. And it just makes me go, God damn it. Davison, Andrews was absolutely available when Star Trek Into Darkness was being made. And if you were going to have Khan in your movie, why not cast him? You know, especially since he is, you know, of Indian descent. So it's like, come on, way more convinced than the Benedict cum badge. But yeah, I highly recommend it. I think there's like four episodes out there, like a half hour each or so, great stuff. I mean, that was, that was the lamest thing ever, Into Darkness, because the whole time he went by a different name, and then they have this big reveal, and it's Benedict Cumberbatch going, I am Khan and like, Come on, dude, you look at Benedict Cumberbatch and you're gonna tell me his the character is playing. His name is Khan Noonan Sing,

James Jay Edwards: 47:30

come on. The issue with not really an issue. But remember when he there was a big mystery as to whether or not he was playing con, until you see the movie and you realize he is, but they tried to keep it under wraps. Which, I guess you know, him being as Pacey white as he is, probably helped them keep that under wraps.

Jonathan Correia: 47:50

That's one of the many problems with that movie,

James Jay Edwards: 47:53

you know. All right, let's, let's wrap this up with just real quick. What are you guys doing for Halloween? Anything? Any cool plans?

Jacob Davidson: 48:02

Oh, I already got my Halloween planned out. I got a ticket to see Jon carpenter perform live at the Belasco on Halloween night.

Jonathan Correia: 48:13

Nice. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 48:15

I've seen him tour a couple times. I think it was twice. I don't remember the exact years at the Palladium in Los Angeles, and I did see him on Halloween, I think back in 2019 but it's been quite some time since he toured like at least, you know, because he hasn't toured since covid in 2020 so I'm really glad that he's out and about again. And you know, what better time to see Jon carpenter perform than on Halloween?

Jonathan Correia: 48:47

Man, that's awesome. I don't, I don't have Halloween Day plans, but starting to get because I'm still traveling, but I'm starting to get them together for because it's a month long celebration, at least, you know, but I do have an order at Revenge of the comic bookstore, because I want to hand out Halloween comics to the two kids this year. Oh, nice. So I was able to, like, procure like 20 copies of like these Halloween special things for a good price to hand out to the kiddos. But again, kids don't visit our house, our apartment, so I gotta figure, I gotta maybe do the thing I did last year, which was hand out candy from a fanny pack while in a neighborhood, which wasn't creepy at all,

James Jay Edwards: 49:32

which parts creepy, the part where you're handing out candy, or the part that comes from a fanny pack,

Jonathan Correia: 49:38

it's a massive fanny pack, though, I could fit my whole head in it, little bit of both. I think it was, you know, walking up to kids going, Hey, what's candy? And then reaching into the massive, massive fanny pack might have, you know, it was now, now this year, it's going to be pulling comic books out of that massive fanny pack, I guess. So, less creepy.

James Jay Edwards: 50:00

My halloween i i mentioned i went to Disneyland last week, and they already have the Halloween stuff set up, the big Mickey pumpkin and the haunted house, the Haunted Mansion is all a Nightmare Before Christmas. Now. Which unpopular opinion I like the Haunted Mansion original, not Nightmare Before Christmas, but breach to each his own. My biggest thing for Halloween. For Halloween, we usually sit in the driveway so that the dogs don't go absolutely eat shit. When people come up and ring the doorbell and I have this, this big window the front of the house that looks in on my TV. My biggest issue is going to be deciding what movie I want to play on the TV for the kids to look at. I done a hotel, the Hotel Transylvania series, and I did the Beetlejuice movies last year. I have to think of something kid friendly, but also that the adults are going to appreciate too.

Jonathan Correia: 50:54

Might I suggest the German Chainsaw Massacre,

James Jay Edwards: 51:00

and I'll follow it up. Severin film. What? Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 51:05

no, no, no, you got to stay with the theme. You got to show necromantic and necromantic too.

James Jay Edwards: 51:09

Obviously, I actually did joke with my wife about that the first year, I'm all, I'm all the hotel Pennsylvania wasn't playing, so I just put on I Spit on Your

Jacob Davidson: 51:17

Grave. Jesus,

Jonathan Correia: 51:21

I was

James Jay Edwards: 51:22

yes, I was kidding, because Hotel Transylvania did. And it's funny that the number of people who would walk by their, oh, Hotel Transylvania, you know, the people who recognize it, it's actually kind of fun, but cool. Well, um Yeah, that's Halloween. So let's, let's get out of here, this one, and go back to bed, since it's early. So what are you doing on Halloween? Let us know, and we'll, I think we'll probably have another episode before then, because it's early in October. So we'll, if you have anything good, maybe we'll, we'll talk about it. Our theme song is by restless spirits to go check them out. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out, and you can find us on all the socials under eye on horror or at iHorror.com, which is the site we call home, and we will see you in a couple of weeks. Everybody see good boy, because you won't regret it. It's amazing. See it twice I did, and we'll see you in a couple weeks. So for me, James Jay Edwards, I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia: 52:23

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards: 52:24

Keep your eye on horror.

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