Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
End of Summer Break
This week, the boys return from summer break to review a summer's worth of movies featuring Weapons, The Long Walk, Together, I Know What You Did Last Summer (2025), The Fantastic Four: First Steps, Superman (2025), Eddington, Borderline, Nobody 2, Dangerous Animals, The Toxic Avengers (2025), Highest 2 Lowest, Caught Stealing and Unknown Number: The High School Catfish.
Also this episode, Correia's Book Nook come back with vengeance as he competed in a Summer Reading Challenge to review The All-Nighter, Bitter Root: The Next Movement, George A. Romero's The Amusement Park, and Exorcism at 1600 Penn (he also read all of Preacher, The Walking Dead, and Invincible hence why he's not reviewing so many movies).
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Welcome to Eye on Horror, the official podcast of ihorror.com this is episode 149 otherwise known as season eight. Episode Nine. It's been a while I am your host, James Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davidson, how you doing?
Jacob Davidson:Jacob, doing good. Had a very full and rewarding summer, and it may be September, but I really wish that it would cool down.
James Jay Edwards:Oh, I know it's so super hot. Did you see the Gloucester sea serpent while you
Jacob Davidson:were back home? I wish
James Jay Edwards:also with us, as always is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing Correia?
Jonathan Correia:Oh, I'm just, just like a baked bean in the sun, just getting cooked by the it's, it's September. This is the hottest time of the year in the valley. So, you know, just getting cooked.
James Jay Edwards:Yep, it's, it's, it's a warm one. We have not talked in a really long time, so we need to jump right into it and talk about some cool shit. And I think that there is something cool that all of us have seen that i But anyway, let's talk about Weapons. Yeah, Weapons was amazing. I loved this movie. It was so like, it's weird because it had like, almost like a Sinister or a Longlegs vibe. It's a very cold and dreadful movie. But then it had, like, these little snippets of comedy. And I have heard a lot of people saying that they have a problem with a third act and how it goes off the rails. I think it went off the rails in the best way possible. I absolutely loved the ending to this
Jonathan Correia:movie, but the but this Assault Rifle alarm clock that wasn't third act like, no.
James Jay Edwards:That was weird, that, but, but that was also a dream that was, that was Jon. If you haven't seen weapons, which by now you probably all have, it's basically about this third grade. I think third grade this, this class of kids. One night, they all get up at 217 and walk out of their house Naruto style, yeah. And they disappear, yeah and yeah, and they run off into the night in narrative style, except for one of them, and He is the only one left in his class. So, of course, they're, they're, you know, blaming the teacher. They're blaming, you know, it's the story is told from the point of view of all the different towns people like they're, you know, it'll say, you know, that go from the teacher, one of the parents, everybody, to this one freaking homeless druggie
Jacob Davidson:who is awesome, Jay directly inspired by Magnolia. Yeah, yes,
James Jay Edwards:it's, it's, yeah, it's that kind of a thing. But it is this movie. This movie rules. This movie is so freaking cool.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, I was so excited to see Weapons that I actually saw an opening day while I was on the East Coast in Boston, and saw it at the IMAX theater at the Commons, and it it was such a fun time, like it was a full house. And during that third AXIe, like somebody actually yelled in the back of the audience, Holy fucking shit.
Jonathan Correia:There was a few moments of our screening where people had that type of reaction. It was great, and we had an amazing crowd.
James Jay Edwards:It's a Holy fucking shit movie, yeah, it it, yeah. And the thing is, they didn't screen it for press down here, which turned out to be a good thing, because I got the Warner rep to give me a Fandango code so I could go see it with an audience. And that was a good way to see it. I was glad to get to see it with like, um, with like, an actual audience, because it is, it's an audience movie.
Jonathan Correia:Our our audience had visceral reactions to some of the food bits in the movie. So like the seven hot dogs, someone, someone shouted like, what like with the seven hot dogs bit, which was a beautiful homage to Trevor Moore and whitest kids, you know, yeah. But for me, it was the because I'm going to talk about the food in the movie. It was the whole Campbell Soup thing, yeah, oh, my god, like that. That was great storytelling of just like what the kid was going through, of showing the sequence of him struggling to get the CANS open, dropping them, and then going to the store and buying ones with the easy open like it the the amount of like character, like development and just like storytelling of just this kid in this soup was just phenomenal.
James Jay Edwards:And the way that they unfold it it's this is Zach Cregger, in case you haven't known the. Who made barbarian and the way that it unfolds with the different, you know, telling it from different points of view. It's almost like, like a Pulp Fiction or a Strange Darling kind of thing, where it's like, it's better to not know some of the things he tells you that happened earlier. Yeah, but yeah. But the craziest thing about it is, and one of my critic colleagues had said he's all, where'd they find the actress to play?
Jonathan Correia:Gladys? Gladys is McCoy from Streets of Fire.
James Jay Edwards:I saw her name in the credits, who was Amy Madigan, and when I looked it up, she is a chameleon in this movie. By now you, even if you haven't seen the movie, you've probably seen pictures of Gladys because it's kind of a meme now, she's like, dyed red hair, this crazy looking lady. It's freaking Amy
Jonathan Correia:Madigan. Or, if you have my algorithm, you've seen at least five or six drag queens pull off that look
James Jay Edwards:recently. It's a good drag queen look.
Jonathan Correia:It's, it's, the new Mia Goth. It's the new MaXXXine or Pearl is she's iconic, but Amy Madigan deserves Oscar nominations for this. She's phenomenal.
James Jay Edwards:But because it's a horror movie, they'll probably snub her, but you're right, she was amazing. She was unrecognizable. Yes, totally.
Jonathan Correia:There was one point in her performance where Lindsey and I both looked at each other and just went, McCoy Streets of Fire, because we're obsessed with that movie, and it took a while for us to recognize her.
James Jay Edwards:I didn't even recognize her, and I saw the name and the credits, and I was on who was Amy Madigan in this and then it was only when me and my friend Josh were discussing it, you know, about who was Gladys, and I looked it up. I'm all, holy crap, that's who she was. Oh my god, so amazing. Anyway, everybody go see Weapons. Another thing I saw that's brand new. It comes out next week. I don't know if either you guys have gotten a chance. I know they've been doing preview screenings. Have you seen The Long Walk?
Jacob Davidson:No, I'm hoping to go to a preview screening at the arrow next week. But, yeah, no, it's still got some time, although I really wanted do that preview screen where you had to watch it on a trip treadmill, three miles per hour, and if you stop, and if you couldn't walk anymore, you would have to leave the movie and you wouldn't be able to finish.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, that's that's the crux of the movie. It is. It's sort of like a Hunger Games kind of thing, where America, they take one one kid from each state, one boy, they're all males from each state, and they have to walk until they all are dead. And if you fall below three miles an hour, you get up to three warnings, and then they shoot you. And so it's you, these guys all have to walk, and three miles an hour is, I mean, it's not super fast, but it's a pretty good clip. It's not lollygagging, yeah. And so this movie, it's, it's directed by the guy who did all the Hunger Games movies except for the first one, and it is written by Jay T Molnar, who did Strange Darling. And this guy has a way with dialog. I mean, you could tell in Strange Darling, he had a way with dialog. But this movie is, I think it sticks pretty close to the to the Stephen King. It kind of simplifies things, and it also kind of combines some characters and leaves out some so, I mean, I haven't read the Stephen King one in decades, but it kind of combines some characters and leaves out some little, little things. But a lot of this movie is conversations, like the boys walking and talking about things, and the conversations, the dialog is really well written, and then these conversations will be split up by just extreme violence in the middle of this movie. But it's so that's so well done. It's such i It's not as intense as I thought it would be, but it's definitely unflinching, like the violence in this is especially the very first kid who fails, the first one who dies. Like, once it happens, you're kind of just left there going, wait, they showed that, you know, I mean, it's like, it's, it's pretty insane. But, yeah, it is. I was lucky enough to see it was an early screening, because they had this discussion afterwards of the themes of the movie, but, but next week they start the the actual press and promo screening. So if either you guys get a chance and it opens on the 12th, which when this posts, it'll be this Friday. So go see the long walk. Yeah, can't wait.
Jonathan Correia:I'll have to watch it at the Cinemark in my hotel,
James Jay Edwards:but, but on a treadmill, though, we'll see set for three miles an hour.
Jacob Davidson:And in terms of other new releases, I assume you guys saw Together,
James Jay Edwards:I have not seen Together, and I'm super bummed.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, let's, let's unpack that one.
Jacob Davidson:Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah. Uh, yeah, no, together was pretty interesting. Like, it did kind of feel like, you know, kind of conceptual horror thing, because it's about toxic relationship. Like, you got Allison Bree and Dave Franco moving in together this kind of rural town, and they've got some relationship issues, and then they fall to a cave, and they drink the weird cave water. And now they start getting really together, connected, leading to all the body horror stuff. Yeah, it's,
Jonathan Correia:I was really excited for it together, because it looked like there was a lot of like, you know, body horror stuff. And it's definitely more on the Brian Yuzna side of body horror than it is Cronenberg, to put it in in those type of perspectives. But my two biggest issues with it is the when it does the body horror stuff, it's really good. The body horror stuff is great, but it didn't feel like there was an escalation with it. It almost felt like random ideas of how it was gonna, how them kind of coming together happens, until the the finale, you were cool, but like it felt a little disjointed with that. But my biggest issue is it I didn't feel the chemistry between the two in love. It felt like they hated each other throughout most of the movie, and I wish that they spent more time on the relationship between the two of them, rather than the kind of really ridiculous reason why it was happening, which it goes, I won't spoil a whole lot, but it goes into, like, a really almost, kind of overly explained cult thing.
Jacob Davidson:And yeah, like, it leans heavy into the full core.
Jonathan Correia:And I mentioned the cult aspect of it because it's not in the trailers, but this is how much it kind of bothered me. You guys know me, you know, I love pretty much anything about cults. I'm very fascinated with the subject. I have multiple books, so like that would that sounds like something I would be excited about, but it kind of felt like it derailed the thing, because, again, I wanted to know more, like, Well, were they these people ever in love? Because they seem like they hate each other, right now, it didn't really feel like, if you're making commentary about codependency and getting in a rut, you know, there, it didn't feel that. But other than, I mean, it was still pretty good. I There's a few moments where it was like, I it was really intense and gross and stuff. I dug it. But also that final shot bit, I've been making fun of it with Lindsay ever since. It was a bit silly, um, but, yeah, I mean, it's fine. I'd recommend it if it comes to streaming or something.
James Jay Edwards:But I have a love hate relationship with neon, because I love their movies. I absolutely love their movies, and I love the package they send me at the end of the year that has their movies in it, but they don't screen anything for press in our market. I mean, the last thing they screen they screen for press was Longlegs. So I get so frustrated and Together as a neon movie. So I have not seen it. And neon has a couple good things coming out, Selby Oaks, and also Keeper and I, and I know that I'm hoping that my package comes and those are in it, so that I actually get to see them sooner than later. But, yeah, I have not seen together yet, but it'll be in my neon package. Um, did either you guys see I Know What You Did Last Summer? No, I didn't get to that the new one. Did you get to a Correia?
Jonathan Correia:No, I was, I I wasn't really a fan of the franchise. I didn't feel the urge to go,
James Jay Edwards:here's the deal. No, no, you, you don't, don't. It's not that great. It is. It's essentially a remake of the first one, which we've already gotten that with part three. Although part three, it was a copycat, and it was more supernatural. But this one, in fact, it could be a remake, except the fact that the first murders actually exist in this universe, and there are like Julie and Ray are in it, Freddie Prinze and Jennifer Love Hewitt and minor spoiler, Sarah Michelle Gellar is in it too. It's like a dream
Jonathan Correia:sequence. And is it no brandy in the post.
James Jay Edwards:It's like a mid credits scene. Yeah, she she pops up, which kind of leaves it open for I still know what you did last summer. I don't know what they're gonna do with
Jonathan Correia:that. It's like the only motivation for me to see it is more brandy, because she rules.
James Jay Edwards:When it's being a slasher, it's actually kind of cool, you know, I mean, it's, it has this, the the typical, you know, creative kills and stuff, but there's so much stuff in between that and the, I don't know if it's the dialog or the acting, but it's pretty corny in between the kills. So, yeah. It's nothing that you really need to rush out to see. It's one of those things that if you're bored for 90 minutes and it comes on HBO, you know, it's not a waste of time. But there's definitely better things to to seek out if you're going to fair. So what else is new? Have there been a couple superhero movies? Have you guys seen Superman or Fantastic Four first
Jacob Davidson:steps? Yeah, I saw
James Jay Edwards:both. Would you guys? You guys
Jacob Davidson:fans? Yeah, I like them both.
James Jay Edwards:Here's the question, which did you like more? Yeah, I like Superman, really. I like fantastic, four more, I think. And here's my issue with Superman, crypto, was CG. You guys know, I'm a fan of animals and movies. I think there should be an Oscar for Best animal performance. And crypto was probably 95% CG. And granted, you can't have a flying dog in but they could have used a real dog for me. But anyway, I mean, I didn't mind Superman. I you know, I did enjoy it. I had fun with it, but I think I like Fantastic Four more, yeah.
Jacob Davidson:I mean, they were both good in their own ways, and kind of evoking the kind of more out there, Silver Age ish superhero stylings. But yeah, they all. They both were great, and they both had their positives,
Jonathan Correia:yeah. I mean, Fantastic Four I dug, especially since there were it did invoke some of the Lovecraftian cosmic horror of Galactus a bit, because that's one of the main reasons why I love Galactus, is that he is this very cosmic horror character. And I dug a lot of it. The problem is I just saw Superman the night prior to it, and I really love Superman, and especially after surviving the Snyder version of Superman, which did not get understand that character at all. So to see Superman's heart and humanity on full display for the entirety of the movie is great, not to mention, like, the just the fact that it handled such heavy themes of, like, all right, if Superman did exist now and did step into, you know, wars and countries and things of that nature, what would that kind of Fallout be? Was just so well done. I mean, and I mean, come on, Hawkgirl killed a world leader.
James Jay Edwards:Hawk girl was easily dictator. She was easily my favorite part. She was great. Um I Nathan, fillions, Green Lantern bug, the crap out of me, but
Jonathan Correia:that's the point of guy. Guardian, no, he is annoying. Mr.
James Jay Edwards:Terrific. Love him. Oh yeah, so good. I loved everything except his name, Mr. Terrific. Come on,
Jacob Davidson:that's, but, yeah, that's his name in the comics. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:you can't change
Jonathan Correia:that. But Mr. Terrific, so cool, because he's just so stoic and like and he's Everything about him is so logic, but he has such style and flair, and he but he doesn't lose that, like Mr. Spock, logic at all. But even, like that whole sequence with the orbs, and he's taking them all out, just style and flair, and
James Jay Edwards:he's terrific, yeah, it but Hawkgirl just flying around. Ah, I mean, she was amazing. She was awesome.
Jonathan Correia:People were complaining about that. It's like, that's how she is in the comics? Yeah, no, no. She was, she was awesome. That actress rules. She was great in Last of Us as well.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, and I gotta say, David Corenswet, he's an amazing Superman, like, he felt very genuine.
James Jay Edwards:He's, he's the best Superman, I think, since Christopher Reeve, like, I mean, you know, this is including all of the freaking TV ones, but yeah, he's, he's, yeah, he was great.
Jacob Davidson:He gave an emotional performance, while also doing a lot of great superhero fights.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, and I think it helps that, like the script was really good as well, because Henry cavityville was a good Superman and Clark, but I just think that the direction of the of the scripts and where it was going with it, it didn't again. It wasn't, it was it was trying too hard to make Superman cool and edgy. And that's the whole point of Superman, is that he's not, he's, he's got a genuinely good heart and stuff and like, it's, it's, that's the thing that you, you almost feel like you got to protect him, even though he's our Protector. It's great, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:All the, all the people who were like, oh, Superman went woke. It's like, did you just wake up yourself? Superman has always been freaking woke. He, yeah, he. People, the
Jonathan Correia:bad reads on on this and others, has been insane to watch.
James Jay Edwards:Well, speaking of woke have either guys seen Eddington?
Jacob Davidson:Oh yeah, I saw Eddington. Might be my second favorite Ari Aster movie now.
James Jay Edwards:Well, there's only been four what is, what's your favorite? Hereditary? Hereditary? Yeah, right. Sure? Yeah, I think that this. I think I like Midsommar and Hereditary more than this, but this is definitely better than Bo is afraid. But I'm an area Astra fanboy, so I like them all. This one is, what's so funny about Eddington, is it kind at first when it, when it was starting up, I'm like, oh, here, here it goes. We're looking, you know, we're going full Maga here, but then he's kind of making fun of both sides, like he has BLM protesters in it who are kind of, who are kind of looking like fools. And then, of course, Joaquin Phoenix, sheriff, who is, you know, anti Vax, anti mask. He's looking like a fool. He's almost making fun of everybody. I saw the perfect poster for Eddington, it was a tin foil cowboy hat.
Jacob Davidson:Well, I wouldn't say he's even really doing kind of a both sides thing, as much as he's showing that a lot of people are are using politics to kind of cover up for their own personal neuroses and and failings, like the whole thing with Joaquin Phoenix's character is, just like a lot of his politics, is just stemming from his own insecurities, like the whole thing with his wife and like hit masculinity issues and just a lot of Different kind of personal failings leading them to really bad politics. But I think probably my favorite part was the No Country for Old Men ask, like, ridiculous shootout in the town at night, like Joaquin Phoenix is just like tumbling and falling for a thing, and he pulls out like a chain gun from the gun store, and, well, he's being chased by this dude. And it just does have a lot of funny moments, like, like the Triumph music. When he makes his campaign card, he's got all those stupid slogans, a lot of them misspelled on the on the card, like you're there, you're being lied to. Why? Oh, you are,
James Jay Edwards:yeah? 824 put out a post that's that had that you're being lied to with, like, some something about Eddington on there, and people were totally correcting them. It's like all, dude, tell me you haven't seen the movie without telling me you haven't seen,
Jacob Davidson:yeah,
James Jay Edwards:yeah. It was,
Jonathan Correia:did they also have a data center that was named after, like that.
Jacob Davidson:Me, yeah, it was shining golden magic. Carp, there you go. Yeah, from Pokemon.
Jonathan Correia:I saw that and that that made me go. Maybe I do need to see this. My issue is lockdown sucked that that era, and I'm not the most motivated to go is to a movie theater and re experience a lot of that. So that's why I didn't see it in theaters. Yeah, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:I mean, it is it. Parts of it are gonna infuriate you just because it's gonna it, you know, to use a freaking right wing buzzword, it's, it'll trigger you, but there are other parts of it that you're gonna actually relate to. And it is it, yeah, it's, I mean, Ari Aster, it does go off the rails in the perfect area way at the end. Like, you know what Jacob was alluding to, it is it goes crazy in the best way. I mean, I think it was awesome,
Jonathan Correia:nice. Well, I've been, I haven't been seeing a lot of movies because I've been absolutely killing it on my summer reading challenge. So hope you guys ready for Correias Book Nook. I spent most of the summer finishing up a lot of series that I started and never finished. I read all of Invincible, Preacher and the Walking Dead, which i i stopped at walk walking dead at the wrong point, because shortly after where I stopped it, it started making a case for post scarcity society. And y'all know me as a Star Trek fan, I'm all about that, so highly recommend those. But once I want to highlight there's one book called The All-Nighter. It was a Comixology exclusive, but they have a few trades out now, and it's about these vampires. And they get kind of bored. They run an all night diner, and so two of them go out and pretend to be superheroes. And it's a really interesting story, because how they explain why vampires exist is because there's a fantasy element. And I only read the first trade. I just got volume two and three and so, but they're hinting that there's like, something to do with, like fantasy magic stuff going but it's a really interesting story. It got recommended to me by the same person who said, Hey, do you like Sinners? Read these comics. This was on that list along with so it's bipoc Focused. Bipoc written, but All-Nighter is pretty fun. But from that list, was also Bitter Root. And if you've been talking to me at all this year, I will, I probably shouted at you about Bitter Root, which is absolutely phenomenal. That's it's Lovecraft Country meets Ghostbusters set in. Uh. The, you know, the Harlem heights era. And that one's phenomenal. And they just came out with the sequel series, Bitter Root: The Next Movement, which just finished its run, which takes place in the 60s and has that, like 60s, retro futuristic look
like Fantastic:Four First Steps, but continues the story of like, how hatred and racism turns people into these beings called like jinoo. But next movement takes it a step further and goes even more Lovecraftian. It's it's such a great read, and they always include amazing essays at the end of each comic. Another one that I would highly recommend is a mute The Amusement Park. So Sandy King John Carpenter's comic book company with with Sandy put out a comic book adaptation of George A Romero's The Amusement Park, the film that was on earth a few years ago. If you like the movie, I highly recommend the comic. The artwork is incredible. They expand on a lot of the themes that are in the movie. Because, of course, there's some limitations, as George A. Romero made this as like a PSA, and it was funded by a church and whatnot. So it was cool seeing them, like, expand out on some of those themes, of like, taking care of the elderly and what it's like going through all that. And the last of my comics I'll recommend is Exorcism at 1600 Penn. I just started reading the trade for that. I'm like an issue in and it's all I'm already recommending it to everybody. It's phenomenal. If you're a fan of the of the of Exorcist the series, yeah, I'm being that fucking specific right now. The series, exorcist series, and how they with the show, they did a really good job of showing the seduction, or, like, what led to the possession beforehand. Exorcism at 1600 Penn. It's like exorcist the series meets Chucky season three, I'd want to say, well, because, you know, group crazy horror stuff in the White House. Yeah, it's really interesting. It's really cool seeing like the demon in the background and all that. And, yeah, it's a really fun read. And I've read all these on Hoopla, so if you have a library and they have Hoopla, I highly recommend it. It's a great resource to be reading comics on the cheap and testing them out.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, yep. Speaking of comics, while I was on the East Coast, I actually picked up a couple of Dark Horse started doing a bunch of EC comics archives releases on paperback. So they're pretty cheap. Like they got whole volumes that are a couple 100 pages and a few issues for only, like 20 bucks each. So I got, like an old tales from the I got, like Tales from the Crypt and Vault of Horror. And it is so funny reading the original comics after being such a big fan of the tales for the Crip TV show for so long because, you know, drew on all that the Tales From the Crypt, Vault of Horror, Haunt of Fear, and they are, actually, are very well written and very funny and ghoulish, and it's, and it, yeah, I got some of the issues that had been adapted, like, I forget the name, but the one with Joe Pesci and the twins that that was one of the issues I got. But also, there's some really crazy stories that never got adapted, but I think would have been fun, like the let's see this one where it's like a game show, and you fake the contestants of vampire, but it turns out the people running the game show are vampires that they eat the guy. So there's a lot of funny stuff to it.
Jonathan Correia:I've been collecting those too. I have all of the trades for Tales, Haunt of, and Vault, and they just started putting out, because EC was revived recently, and they just started putting out the trades for those. So if you like that, I recommend Yeah, epitaphs, of of, of evil. I believe it's called
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, something
Jonathan Correia:like that. It's, it's, it's a lot of fun and really good. It's, it's in that style, but with, like modern, you know, Epitaphs From the Abyss, my apologies,
Jacob Davidson:yes, yes. It's a fun read, and they've got a sci fi one too, like weird tales. I think it was like a Abyss of Horror or something like that. Yeah, yeah. It's cool that he sees back and with new artists and writers and stories, but it is funny to revisit the originals. And you know, if there hadn't been such a crackdown on horror comics back in the day, it does make you wonder how the art form could have evolved.
James Jay Edwards:Have you guys seen this movie? I think it's on Hulu called Borderline.
Jacob Davidson:Uh, yes, I actually saw it theatrically. It had a limited run at Alamo Drafthouse.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, this is, it's. Samara Weaving, and she plays a kind of like a Madonna, yeah, yeah, although Madonna exists in her universe, so she's not Madonna, but she's kind of like this, this pop star who kind of burns through romantic partners. But there's also this fan who's just obsessed with her, who who basically wants to marry her, has has set up a wedding for them. So it's kind of like a crazy stalker story, but
Jacob Davidson:then that it turns into Alone in the Dark, because then he busts out of an asylum with two other patients to, like, do a home invasion and hold her hostage,
James Jay Edwards:yep, so it, but it, yeah, it's another Samara weaving covered in blood movie that, you know, we love so much. It's his own sub genre.
Jonathan Correia:Love Samara weaving,
Jacob Davidson:uh, yeah, she was great. And also Ray Nicholson, son of Jack Nicholson, plays the stalker guy, uh, Paul and he and he does, you know, he looks so much like his dad, so that when he does kind of go crazy, he does kind of evoke Jack in the shining, although I also have to say I was a Big fan of Alba Baptista, who played the French asylum patient who escaped, who escapes with Ray Nicholson, because she's like, just as crazy, and she's kidding. She's got this whole French theme to her. So she was very quirky.
James Jay Edwards:Ray Nicholson, whose face was all over the promotional materials for smile too. And he was in the movie for about, you know, 20 seconds, yeah.
Jacob Davidson:And he was the bad guy in Novocaine, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:Hey, speaking of Novocaine, although not really, speaking of Novocaine, but similar style. Did you guys see Nobody 2?
Jacob Davidson:I did. I thought it was a lot of fun.
James Jay Edwards:I loved it. I thought it was totally did you see it?
Jonathan Correia:Correia, let me tell you, there's 16 volumes of The Walking Dead, which is comprised of two trades. When I tell you I spent my summer reading, I genuinely spend my summer reading,
James Jay Edwards:well, nobody too, basically, is Bob Oden Kirk's character from nobody, and he's on vacation, and, of course, he goes to a place on vacation that is ripe with criminals and corruption, and he basically gets into trouble the same way he did in in Nobody. But yeah, it's just, it's, it's a lot of fun, and it's a lot of, you know, ass kicking and,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, it's National Lampoon's Vacation turning into John
James Jay Edwards:Wick, yeah, yeah, it pretty much is, but yeah, yeah. And it's directed
Jacob Davidson:by Timo, Oh, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:Timo jonto, yeah. I don't know how to say the name, but he did the one of everybody's favorite VHS segments,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, Timo to hunt. Oh yeah, no, he did VHS two and VHS 94 and he also did some really great action movies on Netflix, like the Night Comes for Us, The Shadow Strays, The Big Four. So, like, this is a guy who knows how to do his action with ample gore. So you got people getting blown up and impaled in like traps. And I do love that Bob Odenkirk gets to use an old fashioned tommy gun for a scene. And also Sharon Stone is the main villain, and she just goes full ham like she is crazy.
James Jay Edwards:I didn't realize it was Sharon Stone. It was another Amy Madigan moment, because I saw it all Sharon Stone. I'm like, oh, was she the mate? Because you're right, she's totally, she's having so much fun with this, this role, and she's not, not really unre Not as unrecognizable as Amy Madigan, but she but it was kind of a surprise to see that it was
Jonathan Correia:Sharon Stone. And does she get to do some action bits? Because she can
Jacob Davidson:do Yeah, yeah, you stab peoples in the face. Yo, yeah, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:making me want to watch The Quick and The Dead again. But the director of nobody too, is doing beekeeper too as
Jacob Davidson:well. Oh, yeah, yeah, I heard about that.
James Jay Edwards:Yes, they're making a Beekeeper 2, because The Working Man was not a working man. Was not the Beekeeper 2 that I wanted. It didn't work. Have either you guys seen Dangerous Animals?
Jacob Davidson:Yes, I did see that. I was actually at the big screening they did at the Egyptian theater on my birthday.
James Jay Edwards:I finally caught up to that, because IFC sent out their FYC screeners for the year. Dangerous Animals is a crazy movie. It's basically this serial killer, which is Jay Courtney and um, his his way of killing people is using sharks. He takes him out on his boat and he dangles them above the water while he chums the water for sharks. And if. It's, it's pretty crazy. And it goes places like, I mean, I don't want to spoil anything, but it goes to some Moby Dick places that are pretty awesome.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. Also, this might be one of my favorite Jay Courtney performances, because he gets to be very hammy and Australian, yeah. Like, he's not hiding the accent.
James Jay Edwards:Is he Australian? Like in real life. Okay, cool. He is genuinely Australian. He's one of those like Charlie Hunnam. I got so used to seeing him in Sons of Anarchy that when I see him like in interviews and he's British, I'm like, What the hell is Jax teller doing speaking with the accent?
Jonathan Correia:I'm the opposite with him. I'm like, why is the British exchange student from undeclared speaking with an American accent, watching sons.
Jacob Davidson:And did any of you guys see the New Toxic Avenger?
Jonathan Correia:No, listen, there's a there's a lot of issues of Invincible. And I, I had a lot of reading to
James Jay Edwards:do with me. It was my social anxiety, because the press screenings were during Comic Con, and they were at theaters next to Comic Con, and I was like, yeah, no, I'm not going down there. So, yeah, I missed it.
Jonathan Correia:That was, that was me with highest to lowest. Like, I glad Lemley was showing it, because I was like, I'm not going to downtown. I'm sorry.
Jacob Davidson:Like, well, yeah, no, the dude, Toxic Avenger movie by Maken Blair is finally out. And it's so funny because, like, I saw it almost two years ago at Beyond Fest, and it was, you know, just such a big event. Like, they decked out the arrow theater our, our water was green for a while because they dyed it and that, you know,
James Jay Edwards:for a while after the screening, like, for like, weeks after,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, no, there was green slime everywhere. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But no, what I'm trying to say is that, you know, they just made such a big event of the Toxic Avenger festival screenings. It sucked that, you know, they shelved it for a couple years because, like, I had such a blast, and it was such a fun time. But thankfully, cineverse, and, you know, the team behind it, put it out, and I and they did, they didn't really change it that much from the the version I saw at beyond fest, except, I think they extended the credit seek, or the credits tag sequence. So if you want to learn how to make an authentic Toxic Avenger grilled cheese sandwich, I recommend staying for after the credits. But no, it's such a fun movie. I mean, I really love Peter Dinklage, and this gave him the chance to do something very different from what people are used to seeing him do. Plus, you got Kevin Bacon and Elijah Wood as bad guys and very weird and kind of can't be bad guys like Elijah woods a hunchback who's managing a monster core band, and Kevin Bacon is a dickhead CEO obsessed with health who's like injecting gorilla blood into himself. And, you know, example, Gore, it really is evocative of kind of the style of trauma and the original Toxic Avenger movie, but also strangely timely, because much like trauma, which, despite its usual absurd and line crossing gore and weirdness, there is some emotional core to it and socio political messaging, because, like, Peter Dinklage is a single dad trying to take care of his son and the Yeah, I mean, it has all the kind of anti corporate messaging because, like, it's Kevin Bacon's evil company that's polluting the environment and make everybody sick. And the funniest part to me was that there was a sequence where these proud boy type guys, the nasty lads, took over our restaurant, fast food restaurant, which was called Mr. Meat, but was changed to miss meat because they were so mad about the name, and I just couldn't stop thinking about, like, the whole Cracker Barrel of controversy that made all these right wing dudes so pissed off, so toxic. Adventure really is a topical, uh, movie and a hero for our time. And one of the best promotional, uh, see things they ever did, and they did was that they bought and took care of over $5 million of medical debt, and with their increasing box office, they're they're helping to eliminate more medical debt.
James Jay Edwards:Correia kind of alluded to it, but let's talk about a couple of not really horror movies, but crime movies from auteurs. Let's go to highest to lowest. First, the new Spike Lee joint.
Jonathan Correia:Don't even get me started this movie.
James Jay Edwards:It's almost like two movies. And honestly, there's basically Denzel Washington dealing with being this, not really washed up, but this struggling music. Yeah. Mogul, and then there's this kidnapping side of it. And honestly, the Denzel Washington music mobile part was more interesting than the kidnapping part. I was a little disappointed in the crime aspect. And then the movie itself becomes a freaking music video towards the end, and you're like, Oh wow, come on. Yeah because, oh yeah, because Aesop Rocky is in it. And you're like, I loved it. The thing about the kidnapping one is it's all so far fetched. And you're like, ah, yeah, I don't know, but, but the Denzel Washington, and here's the thing, Jeffrey Wright is in it. He kind of plays this ex con who's Denzel Washington's right hand man. And for someone to be able to out act Denzel Washington. That takes some talent, but Jeffrey Wright did it. He, he is incredible in this so that, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:both of them, yeah, I gotta, I gotta say something about Highest 2 Lowest, because I absolutely fucking loved it. I fought to find a screening, which was insane, because I live in Los Angeles. You think that they would have more than four fucking theaters showing it, one of which was only doing 10pm showings, and two the other two were downtown. But I'm so glad I sought it out, because the crowds energy was incredible. With it, all the jokes landed, and I loved it, because the setup is a kidnapping movie, but it's not about the kidnapping and and so I can understand why there's a bit of a disconnect. But Spike really took the opportunity to really talk about, like, where art and entertainment is right now. I thought you were
James Jay Edwards:going to say he took the opportunity to bash Boston.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, did he ever like, if you walk out of Highest 2 Lowest, you know exactly where spike stands on AI and Boston sports, and the truth is, he fucking hates both of them. There's, there's an entire sequence where they during the chase, where they enter in a train full of New York fans, and they're just chanting, fuck Boston. Fuck Boston. Fuck. To the point where, where the actor gets, like, into a face, close up, and is staring down the barrel of the lens screaming, fuck Boston. It's great.
Jacob Davidson:Wow. I didn't see the movie, but there was an interview that Spike Lee did in Central Park, and he saw a guy wearing a red sox hat go by. Is like, Hey, fuck the sox. Like he just stopped the interview. That guy. He hates Red Sox,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, he's a huge Knicks fan, but it's but it's really masterful, and it's critique and dwellings on where entertainment is right now, especially as a business, as an industry. And nothing encapsulates that more than the end credits. Song is samples and uses this 1970s Italian song where the guy wrote, basically, in Italy, Italian artists were struggling to get on the charts because English songs were much more popular or American songs. So he wrote a song that was complete gibberish, but sounded like he was speaking English, and I think them using that and putting it was the singer that's also featured at the end of the movie. She's singing over it, just that overlay, I thought was, was a perfect, like encapsulation of the themes of the film. And so, yes, if you're looking for, like, another crime thriller, this isn't that. It uses a lot of that to tell its story, but I think it's masterful. Even the chase sequence was, there's a lot of choices where it's like anyone else would have done this in a very stereotypical, like high energy way, and Spike was much more. Did it in a very different manner. I don't want to say it was slow or or anything like that. It just wasn't like high energy in that sense. And it kind of made me even more nervous because of that, because it's like, Why? Why isn't this moving along like it would? There was a lot of very interesting takes, and the distribution of it, I think, has been trash, because they're barely putting it in theaters, barely pushing it, and it is going to Apple TV, plus tomorrow. But, I mean, come on. I was
James Jay Edwards:gonna say this is one of those, A24 straight to Apple so which actually, now they think about it that the Tragedy of Macbeth also with Denzel, but the tragedy of death is starting to hit other platforms. So I don't know if it was a limited Apple contract or whatever, but, but also these cinematic autuer movies, Darren Aronofsky is Caught Stealing. You guys seen this?
Jonathan Correia:No, I haven't seen that yet, nope, but I saw the red carpet footage of the cat showing Okay,
James Jay Edwards:the cat is okay. Here's, here's the deal with Caught Stealing. It's your typical crime drama. It's nothing special on the Aronofsky scale. It's actually kind of mid to low. It's better than Noah, but it's not The Wrestler, um, but that cat is amazing. It's the same cat. His name is tonic. It's the same captain. The Pet Semetery remake,
Jonathan Correia:best part of that movie, too. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, he was. But. It's funny because, like, because, like, you said, Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz is amazing in this, in this movie, Austin Butler's okay, but I don't think they gave him a whole lot to work with. Zoe Kravitz is easily the emotional core of the movie. But, um, they'll be doing their red carpet interviews and stuff, and they'll put this cat in this car and, and someone is controlling the car, obviously, but it, but the car, the cat will drive up into the middle of this interview in this car, but, yeah, that cat, but Caught Stealing it's, I mean, it's your pretty typical, you know, this guy's, he's speaking, we were talking about Amy Madigan, unrecognizable. He Austin Butler gets caught between the Russian mob and these Hasidic criminals is just kind of what is the these? They're in the guy's phone as the Hebrews, and it's leave Schreiber and Vincent D'Onofrio, and they both have these huge beards. They're just chameleonic. And it's kind of hilarious, because these guys, you know, they'll like, go home to their bubby, and they'll talk and stuff, and then they'll go out and they'll rip people's eyes out with a spoon. It's, it's pretty crazy that what he gets in between, and his Matt Smith plays his his punk neighbor, who's, who's the owner of the cat, but he ends up that's the whole thing. Is like his neighbors, like, take care of my cat while I'm in England. And of course, there's more than just the cat that he has taken care of, because all this other shit happens. But it is on the Aronofsky scale. I think it says more about Aronofsky movies than it does this movie, because this is not a bad movie, but it's not one of Aronofsky best. It's a little too typical for Aronofsky, I think is, is the issue. But, yeah,
Jacob Davidson:it seemed like he was doing kind of a crime caper type of movie. He very
James Jay Edwards:much, and he didn't write it. It's, uh, based on a novel, and the the novelist adapted his own screenplay, so that might have had something to do with why it's a little it's a little too typical, because Aronofsky didn't, you know, he didn't have complete he's taken someone else's script. But let's, let's wrap things up here. But I think let's wrap things up here. Correia with a known caller
Jonathan Correia:dog. No, I shouldn't have told you I watched a Netflix True Crime thing, because I know, I knew you were going to want to talk about, well, at least we're not talking about Train Wreck.
James Jay Edwards:Hey, yeah, I oh yeah, no, I avoided all the train wreck that I've watched because there have been, they're putting out one of those every week, it seems um, but those ones, the blue boy one is cool, though, but the rest of them are um, but no UNKNOWN CALLER this. It basically this. It's this. It's a convoluted story, but basically this girl started getting texts from an unknown caller that was like, not really threatening, but like, talking crap about her, about her boyfriend, saying things like, You're so ugly, your boyfriend's gonna leave you for me that all this stuff, and they're trying to find out who is sending her these messages, and it goes to some really weird places, and it kind of reveals who's sending these messages. Kind of early for me, in fact, so early that I actually thought I'm all this, can't be this, this can't be the end of this. But it was, well,
Jonathan Correia:it's, it's, it's weird because, like, it's basically, it's this teenage girl, and it happened in like, 2020, so it was, like, a recent thing, but it was this, like, 13 year old girl and her boyfriend, and it was always in group chats between the two of them. And it was all this shit talking of, like, your boyfriend's gonna leave me, because I put out much more explicit than that. But like, it starts off as like this, like, it seems like they're trying to break them up, but then it, like, it stops for like, six or eight months, and then comes back and for like, a year and a half, it's like, 40 or 50 texts a day at some points, and it's
James Jay Edwards:at one point they did break up, and he starts seeing another girl, and that girl's mom starts getting texts. Yeah, so, so, I mean, it goes way further than just this group chat. Like, it almost seems like it's clearly someone in their inner circle that's doing this, who has, you know, knowledge of where these two kids are and where they go
Jonathan Correia:and and they do reveal who it is decently early. But, and it's because there's a lot to unpack with who it turns out to be. We're trying not to spoil it right now, but there's a lot to unpack. And I think my only it was something I watch while doing other stuff, but, like, my biggest disappointment with it was just the fact that, like, I don't know, there was so much to unpack with it, and it felt like there was, there's no real catharsis on, like, why they did it. There's no I wish, I wish. I wish more time had had lapsed so that we could see, like, more of the ongoing effects I do really like, because there's points where, with the texting, where they implicate other students, and so there's other. It's not just these two kids who are being massively traumatized by this, because, again, when you're getting 40 to 50 texts a day and they're saying you're an anorexic bitch and you should kill yourself, like, that's gonna take a toll on you. But like, it also shows that, like, with the implication that it might have been this other person in the class, like, that person's life was affected, these families lives were affected. So I'm, I'm glad that they did interview all these people and showed that it was more than just two but I don't know it. I wish we were a few more years out, because then you could see the longer effect of it. Maybe if they do a revisit in like, a few years, I'll probably watch it. But, like, it's pretty insane, because you think like cyber bullying, cyber stalking, things of that nature, it's still relatively new, but also not in our society. And I do respect the fact that they go into how this has real ramifications in the real world on people,
James Jay Edwards:and not just for the people who are getting the like like you said, the person doing it pointed the finger at other people, and may and planted clues to make it look like these other people are doing it to throw the trail off themselves. So, you know, there are people going around the school saying, Oh, this girl totally is doing all this, and it ruined her life, too. Yeah. And, you know, and, and by the end, you know, everybody knows this girl didn't do it, but so what she's already branded, you know, it, yeah, it's and,
Jonathan Correia:of course. And of course, the cops didn't do, oh, the cops due diligence. I loved when the parents of, like, one of the kids that was blamed, they were like, Yeah, we told them to investigate that person, but they didn't. It took, like, the FBI having to get search warrants from these third party apps and stuff to go and it's like, Y'all couldn't have done that from the fucking beginning. You couldn't have asked those people for their fucking phones from the
James Jay Edwards:beginning. Like, you know, you could have solved this two years ago, right?
Jonathan Correia:But it's but it's also pretty insane, because they have the the camera footage from the body cams of the cops when they go to confront the person, and that scene goes on for a long and it's very uncomfortable. There's a lot, there's a lot of revelations and realizations happening in real time. And it is, it is rough.
James Jay Edwards:That is, it's uncomfortable. It is, yeah, it is that, that one's tough.
Jonathan Correia:So it's, it's, I mean, it's your typical Netflix True Crime doc, it, but it's, it's, it's interesting. I was interested in it because most of the time when people were like, You should watch this true crime doc, it's like, Oh, great. Let's watch another serial killer thing. Let's watch another murder thing. So I was interested in the cyber bullying, cyber stalking aspect of it. So all
James Jay Edwards:right, cool. Well, sorry, we missed like two months. I won't even say we missed a couple episodes. We missed a couple months, but you guys were treated to our end of summer catch up here. And supposedly, I'm not gonna make any promises, but we have some interviews coming up, right? Correia, yeah, we
Jonathan Correia:have some cool stuff. Sorry for getting way too into my summer reading challenge, but just know that I dominated that shit. I put all those kids to shame with the amount of pages I read. Let me tell
Jacob Davidson:you, I was too busy going coast to coast,
James Jay Edwards:and I was too busy watching train wreck about, you know, the American Apparel cult and the PI moms and whatever, but we, but hopefully, I won't even promise, and we'll be more regular, but we're going to try. But yeah, if you like the sound of our voices, you were cool here. So let's, let's get out of here. Our theme song is by restless spirit. They just got back from a tour, but they're going to start working on their fourth record, and then they'll be on tour soon. So go check out restless spirit. Our artwork is by Chris Fisher, and he's always doing artwork and movies and stuff, so check him out. You can find us on all the socials. I think I don't know, it's been so long since we've done this. Do we still have our socials?
Jonathan Correia:We do Instagram and Facebook, all right?
James Jay Edwards:And yeah, so on ion horror, or you can go to ihorroror.com which is the site we all call home. You can also hear me on the crypto zoo every other week, and Jacob on the hallow rewind every not every other week, but it's more regular. It's more regular than I on horror lady, and hopefully we'll see you in a couple weeks or in a couple months again, I don't know, but we'll see you when we see it. So for me, James Jay Edwards,
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