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This week, the boys return from a busy month to talk Predators (Chris Hansen, not Adrien Brody), Final Destination Bloodlines, Bring Her Back, They Call her Death, Thunderbolts*, Another Simple Favor, Clown in a Cornfield, and Friendship.  

Also this week, we review the new 4K restoration of Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut (SEE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN), Ignite Films' Re-Animator 40th Anniversary 4K set (A must own for everybody!), as well as theatrical screenings of Troll 2 and Willow! Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!

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James Jay Edwards: 0:25

Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of ihorroror.com this is episode 146 otherwise known as season eight. Episode Six. I am your host, James, Jay Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host. Jacob Davison, how you doing? Jacob, uh,

Jacob Davidson: 0:40

doing fine. Just got my birthday coming up, so I'm pretty excited about that, and still continue to be gloomy. May,

James Jay Edwards: 0:51

are you doing another wake for your birthday? Wake part two?

Jacob Davidson: 0:55

No, it's my resurrection. I'm starting my own religion, getting the compound for my birthday.

James Jay Edwards: 1:03

That's hysterical. I Well, you know, who's gonna have something to say about this? Let's bring in your other, other host, Jon Correia, how you doing? Correia,

Jonathan Correia: 1:11

doing well, I gotta say the the

James Jay Edwards: 1:14

You'll join his cult, right. Oh yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 1:18

Jacob, come on. How could I say no,

Jacob Davidson: 1:20

come on, you know, you wanna Jacob

Jonathan Correia: 1:23

balancing himself in this, like Halloween decoration coffin that was just like a little too small on, like a table that was a little bit wobbly. Was quite hilarious. It was a great time. I enjoyed myself greatly. I

Jacob Davidson: 1:39

lived entertain. I'm looking forward to your resurrection. I've been dead this whole time. I sixth sense this podcast. You

Jonathan Correia: 1:46

know, look a day over 24 Good job. All right, but let's jump into it, because I have nothing to talk about. No, I do. Have you guys heard of this documentary, Predators. And I pre faced with documentary, because I'm not talking about the Adrian Brody Predators, but predators, no, I have not, nope, no, all right, so it's a it's a meditative documentary, kind of critical essay about the To Catch A Predator series. I

James Jay Edwards: 2:21

was going to say we're talking Chris Hanson Predators. Oh, the pedo Slayer

Jonathan Correia: 2:25

himself, yeah. And it talks about, like the show and its influence on the culture, and one of the interests, and it's really interesting, because they get into not only like the ethical questions that the show brings up. But because of like, what the show is about, there's so much unaired footage that's publicly available through court system, summits and stuff, and so the director actually went through like, all the like, all the like, post capture interviews and stuff. And like. Went through it because if, for those who don't know what to Catch a Predator is, it was a show on NBC, late night, I believe, where Chris Henson, not even late

James Jay Edwards: 3:07

night. It was, it was prime time. It was prime time. It was an event. It was part of NBC Dateline, I think, yeah, yeah. It was a series of Dateline shows, yeah, yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 3:16

where they would, you know, pretend to be children in chat rooms and get these would be or potential pedophiles to show up to the house. Chris Henson would pop out. They would have, like an actor, pretend to be a child, to be like, I'm just gonna go get the cookies. Come on in. And

James Jay Edwards: 3:36

it became kind of a pop culture jokes. I remember, I think it was one of the MTV Movie Awards, they were doing one of those sketches where a person, the host, goes through all the different movies, and at one point he walks into a kitchen and he's like, What the hell's going on? And then Chris Hansen walks out and goes,

Jonathan Correia: 3:54

have a seat. Iconic line, yeah. And they Oh, yeah. It's referenced in arrest development, you know,

Jacob Davidson: 4:04

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia,

Jonathan Correia: 4:05

yeah, it's, it's, there

James Jay Edwards: 4:07

was one, I saw a cartoon of it where they actually had, like, a real predator, like a monster predator. And then Chris Hansen pops

Jacob Davidson: 4:13

out, goes, have a seat to like, I think it was a Robot Chicken sketch.

James Jay Edwards: 4:17

Yes, there was a Robot Chicken. Yes.

Jonathan Correia: 4:19

Well, as well. There's the boondocks episode with the booty warrior, where he goes, Oh, I'm not here for a child. I'm here for you. Chris Hansen, remember that? Yeah, that that horrific, horrific scene. But so we all know that it's, it was kind of a joke in this is phenomenon and stuff. But the thing is, like, and they and they talk about it a lot in the movie where the crime already happened in the chat room, there's no reason to set up these stings that all of that is purely for camera and for entertainment. So it asks these moral, uh, morality questions. Of like, Who is that for? That's for an audience? What? Ha and like, what is it when the. A justice system is turned into a form of entertainment, and all these big questions like that, how much of it is like essentially goading people into these situations? How many, because law enforcement would boast, like with these type of stings, that a large majority of these arrests were people who have never committed any kind of crime before, and it's like, so it asks a lot of really good questions, and it goes into, there's a lot of knockoffs now, especially on YouTube, and they are not done well at all. One, they actually follow one of these people, and it's the director. It was one of the Q and A's that actually was like, I it was, it was an interesting Q A, but the the director of the film would didn't understand why everyone laughed. Because when they followed the YouTube people, the woman who would pretend to be a child on the phone and stuff, she'd be sitting in the motel room. And every single time one of these guys showed up, they would open the door and they go, Who the fuck are you? You're like, 40 to this woman, and she's like, No, I'm just turning 15. And he's like, no, what the hell is going on? Which I thought was the funniest thing ever, that there was, like, consistently that. But then they would, because they weren't working with local PD, they would just get them there, and then they would call the police, so they would have to sit with the guys for like hours, waiting for the cops to show up. And it was just totally bad. But it's, it's, it's asking that question where it's like, you're, you're becoming the vigilantes. They're vigilantes. And like, yeah, there's a lot of really good morality questions in it. He does interview Chris Hansen at some point and and the interview does end with him going, all right, you're free to go. You're free to walk out the door. The classic, like Chris Henson, like, you can leave.

James Jay Edwards: 6:48

But that's the other iconic line, yeah, you're free to go, yeah. But there's,

Jonathan Correia: 6:52

there's just, like, a lot of these, like, it's, it's great, because I've gone through phases with To Catch A Predator as a kid, I'd want there was, like, the show my dad and I would watch when mom wasn't home, because we thought it was the funniest thing ever. And then, like, in college, I'd watch it. I'm like, this is depressing on a lot of levels, because, like, there's multiple angles and layers of exploitation happening here and and definitely now is like an adult, it's very not great feelings towards what that program was doing, what they were how they were executing, what they were doing, and everything with it. And it just kind of becomes that, like blue line pornography, you know, like cops and whatnot, and at the end of the day, you're watching someone's life get ruined. And that's we, we turn that into a funny thing. It's, see,

James Jay Edwards: 7:43

that's the thing is, like you said, the the crime is already been committed, the the charges these guys are up against is usually solicitation of a minor, which happened in the chat room. And they have these reams of chat logs on these people. So the show was all about making these guys squirm, you know, and, and, granted, yeah, in order to arrest them, you have to get them there. And that shows intent, especially when they show up with freaking condoms, or sometimes they'll show up with scary shit, like duct tape and rope, you know. And you're like, what was gonna happen here? But the charges these guys face, they could have, you know, they didn't need to put it on TV, the crime had been committed. Yeah, if

Jonathan Correia: 8:25

they face crimes, there was famously one city in Texas where they found figured out that the guy they were talking to was a D, D, Assistant DA, or something like that. And instead of when he wasn't coming to the house, they went to his house with cops, and the man shot himself. Yes, yeah. He was some kind of a politician, yeah. And they aired it, and they threw out every single case that they set up there in that town. And it's because, again, these aren't Law officials or law enforcement officials that are conducting these stings in the chat rooms themselves. And so how much of that evidence is admissible? How much of it it could be entrapment, you know? And that's

James Jay Edwards: 9:12

exactly what it is. They a lot of the cases were dismissed because they consider it entrapment. They're like, you know, if someone goes in posing as, you know, like a 15 year old girl, you know. And it's a thin line, because they have to be careful not to, not to solicit themselves, you know. And, and a lot of times they crossed it. So, yeah, you're right. A lot of the cases got dismissed, and a lot of them didn't, because I think they did. They did get a lot of creepy people off the streets.

Jonathan Correia: 9:42

That's, that's the questions that were, that were that the documentary is dealing with. It's like, on one hand, it's like, yes, we're getting some of the bad guys. But it's like, it, yeah, it's, it's an interesting watch, uh, especially if you grew up during the time when it was airing, yeah, yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 9:57

And it does make me think about how just re. Recently, the Department of Defense was considering starting a reality TV show, oh my God, for people who want to become for immigrants who want to become citizens, and they would televise people being deported.

James Jay Edwards: 10:13

So you want to be a citizen. So

Jacob Davidson: 10:16

it does feel like, and also didn't it start kind of in the beginnings of the reality TV craze in the early 2000s it was, it was around

Jonathan Correia: 10:25

that time, yeah, it was a little after Yeah. It was like a spin off, because Chris Hansen went to another country and what, and did a report on the trade on

James Jay Edwards: 10:34

well. And also, it started as just a segment of Dateline, and then it became its own show, because people responded so much to it and and

Jonathan Correia: 10:42

Chris Hanson has done like four alliteration since he's he's on like, some blue line streaming channel with it. Yeah, I

James Jay Edwards: 10:49

was gonna say you can find it on YouTube. He's made an entire career out of that. Yeah, let's start talking about some of these new horror movies that here's here's the deal. We missed another episode. We suck. But, this is going to be another one of these catch up episodes, because so much has come out in the last month. The big thing out right now, let's talk about Final Destination Bloodlines. Oh yeah, that was good. Have you guys seen this? If you see it, Correia, yes,

Jacob Davidson: 11:14

I saw it in IMAX. Not

Jonathan Correia: 11:16

yet. I want to though. Okay,

James Jay Edwards: 11:19

here's the deal with it. You know, these Final Destination movies, it's all the same movie. It's always the same movie. So what you want is these Rube Goldberg machine, you know, death scenes. And in this movie, they are even more out there. I mean, they totally embrace the craziness in in these scenes. And what makes this one different is the premonition that always starts all these movies where you know, something bad happens, someone saves everybody. Well, this one, the premonition is actually a girl having a dream that was her grandmother's premonition, and her grandma saved a bunch of people. It's in this high rise restaurant that. And it's so funny, because it's typical Final Destination fashion. You've got the kid throwing pennies off the roof, you've got the fire in the pan going off, you've got the cracks in the the glass dance floor. Yeah, I mean, you're like, Well, hey, what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen, what's gonna happen.

Jacob Davidson: 12:16

Oh, so, just as an aside, I do love that, like it's clearly that they wanted to use, like, the Seattle sky needle or something, but couldn't. So they came up with the Sky View.

James Jay Edwards: 12:26

Yeah, it looks like the Space Needle actually, because it goes up there and then it's, yeah, it looks it looks like it, but, um, so this woman's grandma ends up saving hundreds of people. And the whole crux of this is death couldn't get through all the people that cheated it. It took a while to get through them. So they all had families. So that's more people that shouldn't exist that death has to come for. And it kind of ties the other five movies together with that. So it's, so, you know, it's a final destination movie. But it is, it's, it's bloodlines, which, as a freaking a side. Why are we doing all these Bloodlines? We use this Pet Semetery: Bloodlines, Hellraiser Bloodline. I mean, what else is there? There's Wrong Turn Bloodlines (4: Bloody Beginings). It's

Jacob Davidson: 13:12

just one of those kind of trade sequels, subtitles, like resurrection, Genesis in Space Yeah.

James Jay Edwards: 13:23

Dibs on an evil bloodlines. But anyway,

Jacob Davidson: 13:26

oh and yeah, I also got to say that you know that this was Tony Todd's final film appearance. And man, did he leave on a high note. Oh

James Jay Edwards: 13:36

yeah, he, you could tell that he, you could tell that he was not well in filmming this but it was so great to see him and you know, and again, he, as Bloodworth does in all of these movies, he ties the whole thing together, but he wraps it up with a bow. I'd be surprised if they do another final destination after this, yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 13:56

And also, I found out that he improvised his lines so like his speech about the preciousness of life and appreciate the time we have was just him,

James Jay Edwards: 14:04

and that's just all the more poignant knowing it was his last movie. Yeah. Oh man,

Jonathan Correia: 14:09

I I would have seen it, but I was too busy spending three and a half hours at the Egyptian theater watching the new 4k restoration of the director's cut for Kingdom of Heaven, which, oh, yeah, so was I. That's it. It's one of those screenings. I think it was that and Willow, we both had no idea the other one was going. We showed up and it's like, of course you're here, of course you're here to see Willow on matinee. Of course you're here to see Kingdom heaven. But it's not horror. I'll be real quick. Everyone knows kingdom of heaven. Theatrical was not good at all. They just had all the set pieces, none of the character backstories. I think of the theatrical cut, like Eva Green's character shows up like twice, and it's like, how do you cut out her storyline? It's insane. It's like Napoleon. You knew that Vanessa Kirby had way more screen time in the director's cut, but. Kingdom of heaven. Directors Cut is an AMAZING film. It, yes, it's three and a half hours long. Get over it. It's the best movie made about the Crusades. And the new restoration is even better, because not only is the picture better, but they actually went back and re scored it, because the original roadshow side the score. They didn't do a full score for the director's cut, so they, like, there was some, like, weirdness with it, because they were extending, like, the theat, what was made for the theatrical version. But it, yeah, it's, it's a near perfect film. And having recently watched Ridley Scott's Robin Hood, which is not a good Robin Hood movie, but it is a pretty decent sequel to the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, if you watch them back to back, ie kill your entire fucking day. But yeah, Kingdom of Heaven, that's coming out on 4k soon. So definitely check that out. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 15:51

and had a really good time revisiting Willow, which was in honor of Val Kilmer is passing. And like you said, it best though that Val Kilmer in Willow is doing a live action Bugs Bunny. Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 16:05

absolutely, he is living in, he is Bugs Bunny in a Lord of the Rings esque movie. He is literally, if Bugs Bunny was playing Aragorn. He's

Jacob Davidson: 16:15

doing, he's doing a rogue character like from a D and D campaign. And also, I do have to highlight that Warwick Davis is so good, and Willow, I wish he did get more leading roles like that. I mean, although he's great in all the Leprechaun movies, to be sure, but like as a heroic lead, like he's he's really charismatic in Willow, and he's very sympathetic, as he's a family man, and he wants to protect his family, but also he wants to help this baby. And he's a trickster guy, because he's trying to be a sorcerer, but he has to kind of use whatever cunning he has. And, yeah, I forgot, yeah, no, they've been years since I'd seen it, and it's held up pretty well. Oh, also, all those Phil Tippet effects, those, those are great.

Jonathan Correia: 16:59

Oh, the two headed dragon is phenomenal. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 17:01

the fire breathing two headed dragon. Yeah? And in terms of new releases, uh, Have either of you guys seen They Call Her Death?

Jonathan Correia: 17:11

No, but I just heard about that one. Yeah, no,

Jacob Davidson: 17:14

I was lucky. I got to go to a film print screening of it at the new Beverly on Monday, and it's kind of a throwback to, like the old school spaghetti and Euro Westerns of the 70s. Is basically about this woman whose husband is framed for murder, so he's killed by bounty hunters, and she knows that somebody set him up, so, like, they were former outlaws. So she goes back in the saddle and is out for revenge, and is it's a lot of fun. It's kind of like one of the kind of Grindhouse throwbacks from the 2000s like Hobo With A Shotgun or Grindhouse, Machete, that type of thing. It also has some horror elements to it, because, like, she keeps on seeing the specter of death like the Grim Reaper. So there's these kind of horror dream sequences, plus the Gore is like crazy over the top, without spoiling too much, there is a particularly brutal scene of testicular torture. Yeah, and also yes is it's also kind of a bit of throwback to stuff like Thriller. They Call Her One Eye, and a lot a lot of those revenge thriller exploitation movies. And it's really an incredible independent production too, because the cast and crew were there, and it was made over the course of like two and a half years in Wichita, Kansas, for like a budget of $40,000 so it just really goes to show that kind of regional ingenuity. And it's on Shudder now too. So like, I'd recommend checking it out there if you can. Although it's so cool that they were able to get a film print done and screen it at the new Beverly as a double feature with another infamous Euro pseudo horror Western Cutthroats-Nine, which was one of Tarantino's main inspirations for the Hateful Eight. Oh, nice,

James Jay Edwards: 19:19

cool. I saw something that it, it won't be out for another week or so, but, um, it's the it, the new movie from the Philip you, however, you say it, brothers, the guys who made Talk to Me, Bring Her Back. You were raving about this. This movie's amazing. This movie is intense. It. This is solidified. Those guys. I'm going to watch anything those guys make. They, they have been elevated to the to the level of like Ari aster and Robert Edgars. For me, they're, I'm gonna watch anything these guys make from here on out. This movie, basically, there's a, um, visually impaired girl and her stepbrother and their dad dies, so they get put into foster care. And, um. Um, Sally Hawkins is the foster mom, and she actually lost a daughter. So there's kind of like this mediation on grief on both sides, you know, these kids that lost a parent and a woman who lost a daughter. But of course, you know, it's not just grieving a daughter that this woman is doing. She there's, there's crazy stuff going on. And Sally Hawkins is amazing that she's it reminds me of Octavia Spencer in MA or Isabel Lupe in Greta. You know, just this Oscar caliber actress who's kind of slumming it in this, you know what is kind of a grind house horror movie, because it's, it's weird. It's kind of a, I don't really want to spoil anything, but it and they kind of go into this in the trailer. It's kind of like an occult possession thing, but not really, oh, but it's so it's so crazy, it's so intense. It is really, again, not to spoil anything, but, but the little promo thing they gave away at the screening was a little thing of Bring Her Back dental floss. That'll give you a little teaser on on what's coming up. But, oh my god, bring her back is so good. I'm

Jonathan Correia: 21:18

I'm glad it's good, because I think Sally Hawkins missed, uh, skipped out on Paddington in Peru for this.

James Jay Edwards: 21:23

So wow, yeah, that's, yeah, that's a, that's an bold choice. But it worked out because she's awesome in it. Yeah, you would have

Jonathan Correia: 21:31

thought that she would have wanted to do Paddington after that, if it's such an intense movie, you know, needing, I mean, I mean, come on, it's, there's a singing nun.

Jacob Davidson: 21:43

And yeah, Antonio Banderas in multiple roles and doing kind of a Green Goblin split personality thing. Ah, yeah, padding in Peru was fun, yeah. And I am a big I was a big fan of talk to me, so I am very excited to see bring her back.

James Jay Edwards: 21:58

Oh, it's, oh yeah. It's so good. Another thing. Let's go back a little bit, since we haven't talked in a while, do you guys see thunderbolts?

Jacob Davidson: 22:06

Yes, I did.

James Jay Edwards: 22:06

No, not yet. Thunderbolts is, it's a lot of fun. It is. It kind of lost me towards the end, because basically thunderbolts, they're kind of assembling the New Avengers, now that the Avengers are gone. But the thing is, with it is, there's only one with special power, well, two, if you count something, that's a bit of a spoiler, but you've got, like, you know, assassins and super soldier, you know, Super Soul, that's all they are. But, um, David Harbour's character, and he was in Black Widow, he's kind of like the Russian Captain America. He is hysterical in this oh yeah, no. He's great. He's he's like, the comic, because he totally wants to. He's the one who's embracing, let's form this team. And the others are all kind of like, I work alone, you know, I don't really want to do this. And he's like, no, no, no, we are. And they name it after Elena the Black Widow, yeah. The New Black Widow, her soccer team when she was younger, is the Thunderbolts, and that's where they get their name. And no one wants to call it thunderbolts, but they don't have

Jacob Davidson: 23:10

any better ideas. So it also was there. It was her soccer team that, like never won. Yeah, they never

James Jay Edwards: 23:18

but David harbor scared, he keeps going, we are thunderbolts. We are and that's why there's an asterisk on it, because they're, they want to be the new Avengers kind of, or not want to be. They're getting thrust into it. But it's, it's, it's fun as far as these new Marvel movies go. You know, it's interesting to see what Marvel is trying to do, because it seems like they're just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. And I think Thunderbolts might be sticking. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 23:47

it did feel like kind of a return to form for Marvel in that, you know, it was more character focused, rather than, like, oh, gotta save the world. And like, just kind of this big, high concept stuff. You know, it's just fun to kind of have a bunch of these characters and personalities clash and kind of be a more personal story. I was also a big fan of the character Bob, without going into it too much, who's kind of a burnout who finds himself in an extraordinary situation. And I was a big fan of Julie Louis Dreyfus in the movie, who plays kind of the government oversight person, but who's also very corrupt, and is basically, if Selena Myers from Veep was a Marvel character. So, you know, she knows how to play it. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 24:31

she, she is, was the head of this? Or it was her brain child? Was it called the sentry program? Yeah, Sentry program, yeah, so and, and it was kind of an offshoot of the Captain America, you know, the super soldier thing. But way, way, you know, on a bigger level, and she's trying to kind of cover her tracks the whole time, because it was, it's, it was considered like unethical. And this, this takes place in the universe. They make reference to the fact that, you know. So the President turned into a Big Red Hulk. They go back to brave new world a little bit. You know, they mentioned it so it's in the same universe. But, yeah, another, another franchise movie that that I saw, that it might be worth talking about just for a second, Another Simple Favor. Either you guys see another simple favor. This is

Jonathan Correia: 25:22

how I know that the last few weeks have been hell for me, because I haven't watched the new a simple favor sequel like That's insane. This

James Jay Edwards: 25:31

movie, okay, they set it up for you. Blake Lively's character, um, Emily is in jail for murder if he when we last left you in another in a simple favor, and Stephanie, the Anna Kendra character, has written a book about the case a true crime book, or she's at a book signing and freaking Emily walks in. She's out of jail on appeal, and she asks Stephanie to be her maid of honor at her wedding in Italy, you know, Capri island in Italy. And, okay, there's so much wrong with this right from there. Love it, but, um, but then Stephanie is like, why would I go somewhere with you, of all people? And she says that, you know, she, she kind of threatens her with, like, Sue and her because of her book and all this other so anyway, she goes, and, of course, there's murder and mayhem on the island. It's a little more. It's the thing is, Paul, Paul Feig, there's no way he could do another, another simple favor, because people expect it was such a breath of fresh air knowing that he's so doing like comedy, and he go, and this is more of like a mystery, suspense kind of a thing. Well, this time, he leans a little more into the comedy, and it is a little more far fetched, but it kind of works.

Jonathan Correia: 26:53

The original works so well because it there. There's always like, the mystery is really good, but there's this underlining of just like diva Ness, or, as I would say, like cuntiness to it, that just like pops off real well, definitely like the camp factor was there with their performances, which mixed with like these over the top, very like Blake Lively had, like a new outfit that was just like everything and every scene. So as long as it keeps serving that like, I'm all I'm all for it, I'm here for it. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 27:28

another new thing that came out, and I think this. I don't know if it's on shudder yet, but it's heading there. I think Clown in a Cornfield. Oh,

Jacob Davidson: 27:35

yes, did you watch Clown in Cornfield? Yeah, I saw it. I saw it in theaters.

James Jay Edwards: 27:39

Yeah, I saw, I will. I actually, I got a link for it, but, um, it is in theaters now. And what do you think of clown? I loved

Jacob Davidson: 27:46

it. Big fan. Madam says theirs work, and it was directed by Eli Craig, who did Tucker and Dale versus evil, which I'm a big fan of. So, you know, it's a great match. And yeah, and a lot of fun with it. It's got a clown, it's got a cornfield. Has got a lot of dead teenagers.

James Jay Edwards: 28:02

It's, it's another one of those ones that you don't really want to spoil too much about because, because there are some fun surprises. But it's weird because it is. It's a better movie than it should be, because you think clown in a cornfield, this is going to be like one of those asylum horror movies. And it kind of does have that feel. It kind of has that, that big budget, you know, little story, kind of a kind of a feel to it. It has a little more story than you would expect to it. But it is, yeah, it delivers on its premise. There's a clown, there's a cornfield, and there's lots of carnage,

Jacob Davidson: 28:38

and it's funny that it's more of a throwback to 90s horror slashers, because, like the the prologue even has kind of a segment set in 1991 I think. And, yeah, no, because it's, you know, kind of slasher mystery where, you know, you got the clown Friendo, and he's picking people off one by one, and you don't know who it is, and there's a lot of mystery as as to who and why. So, yeah, it does have kind of a scream edge to it. What,

James Jay Edwards: 29:14

what it is, is this town kettle springs, is what it's called, Mississippi, yeah. And they this town used to the economy of the town was built around this corn syrup factory, and friend, oh, the clown was the mascot of this corn syrup factory. And the corn syrup factory burned down. So the town is basically, most of the town is out of work. So there's kind of, like, that whole depressed, you know, economy kind of a thing you know, that the the kids all want out of the town, and the adults are trying to basically just make ends meet in the town, and then all of a sudden, the rep, the icon from the brand that was keeping the town of afloat is starts killing people. So it's, there's kind of a there's kind of an underlying message to it too. It's more. Than just, you know, a clown killing teenagers, although there is plenty of clown killing teenager action. Hey,

Jonathan Correia: 30:06

as long as it delivers out the title, you know, it does. There's a clown. He's in a cornfield. But, yeah, let's do it. I got an amazing package from the amazing folks over at Ignite films. It's the 40th anniversary Reanimator 4k set, nice, which, if any, if anyone knows me, Reanimator is one of the all times for me. This is, I think I own almost as many copies of this as I do the John Carpenter's The Thing, I will never stop buying new restorations of the of Reanimator. And I gotta say, Ignite films knocked it out of the park again, because they did the incredible 4k release for the original Invaders From Mars, which, I think if you own a 4k player, you need to own that. But this one that they they went above and beyond, like, I know you guys can't see it because it's a podcast. We don't do video, but it's a thick set. It comes with a booklet, a new book, our art cards. The restoration itself is absolutely phenomenal. They really went through, really clean it up. Jacob, I think we saw the 4k restoration at that screening last year. Yeah, the Egyptian with, uh, with Jeffrey Combs and all that. Grantham, it looks incredible. The film has aged beautifully. Oh, yeah. And the great thing about about Reanimator is you see the seams, but it's a part of the fun like you it's one of the special features on it. They talk about how when you see an effect happening on it. You can tell how it's done, and that's awesome, like and you can see it even more in 4k It's all on display, but the they have a lot of the legacy bonus features from previous cuts. It's the directors cut that's in 4k for those wondering. They but they do include the integral cut as well on Blu Ray, but they shot a whole bunch of new special features. There's a 40 minute interview with Barbara Crampton, Jeffrey Combs and Brian Yuzna. There's an interview with the editor, like a 20 minute retrospective on the impact, where they interview people like Joe Lynch and the director of boogeyman, the recent one, and a bunch of others they they interview with Carolyn Purdy Gordon. And also, one thing that was of real interest to me, because I've been reading Stuart Gordon's book Naked Theater and Uncensored horror, is they have a decently length documentary looking back on Reanimator, the musical, and what went behind that, which was very late stage theater Stuart Gordon. But they also have a documentary from 1977 which is all about the Organic Theater Company of Chicago, which is where Stuart Gordon got a start, did a lot of live theater. They were doing a lot of original productions. So it's really cool seeing those, those very important pieces of Stuart Gordon's life, which is live theater and the bookends of them. So, yeah, I mean, if you own a 4k player, obviously, if you love Re-animator, you got to get this new set. It's, it's absolutely incredible. I won't be getting rid of my old ones just because I have trouble letting go of things. Bit of a hoarder. But this new one, it's, it's damn near definitive. It is definitive. It's, it's Re-animators never looked better. And the amount of features on it, like I spend a whole day just going through them, and I haven't even finished watching all of them. It's fantastic.

James Jay Edwards: 33:43

When you say the guy who directed boogeyman is that Rob Savage, there

Jonathan Correia: 33:47

we go. Yes. Okay,

James Jay Edwards: 33:48

the guy did host, yeah, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 33:50

I was sitting here like, why am I forgetting his name? It's like, not a hard name to for to remember Rob savage. Like, come on, it's a good

James Jay Edwards: 33:58

name. We were fans of his from Host too. Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 34:01

yeah. I still need to see Boogeyman. I really liked it, yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 34:05

man. Boogeyman is cool. As far as Stephen King adaptations go. I

Jonathan Correia: 34:10

know. I love King adaptations.

James Jay Edwards: 34:13

You know what I saw? They had a, another one of those voodoo sales that it was super cheap. There was a two. Oh God, two. Two movie bundle. Correia knows this is going for five bucks, the Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey movies. Oh boy. I had seen the first one. I have not seen a second. The second is. The second is actually a pretty solid it. There's more story to it, and it kind of goes more into Christopher Robin's, the mental torment, you know, it's, it's, I mean, granted, it is just a lot of these characters killing people, but you have owl and Tigger now, and owl is crazy. Owl kind of looks like the comic book Spider Man. Man, Vulture and Tigger. Tigger was a little disappointing, because they make a big deal about he's like, they keep him locked away in this room. And I was expecting something like the Berserkers on in from night breed. But he just, he comes out, and he just kind of looks like, you know, pooh or Piglet, but with, like, a bouncy tail, you know? So he's not, but, I mean, he is bounce. No, he doesn't bounce, which is, that's another disappointment. But, yeah, it's, it's, there's a little more story to it, but it is pretty much just a gore fest. So

Jonathan Correia: 35:35

you've watched, did you also get Piglet? Because I know piglet was on.

James Jay Edwards: 35:40

Is that the same, the same franchise? Oh, no. So, because

Jonathan Correia: 35:45

I didn't get Piglet, I was gonna say, Jay, are you gonna watch all of these? Because there's a bunch of connected ones. There's Peter Pan's nightmare or nightmare land. I think there's a bigger one, right? Yeah, I think that one hasn't come out yet, though. And then they're gonna do like a big Avengers thing. There's a Bambi one? I think it's like a cinematic universe with the Have

James Jay Edwards: 36:04

you seen the Popeye one? I've only seen the teaser. I've no not even that, the the poster and and, of course, Popeyes got freaking, you know, forearms the size of his thighs.

Jacob Davidson: 36:20

Popeye the Slayer, man. I mean, that's what they went with.

James Jay Edwards: 36:27

It's brilliant. I

Jonathan Correia: 36:29

mean, I feel like, feel like, that's like a just once they're all out. It's like, All right, let's dedicate a weekend to this. Let's do it. Let's jump into it. Let's go in open minded and open hearted, you know, pretty

Jacob Davidson: 36:40

much. And speaking of camp, in terms of repertory screenings, I was at a midnight show of one of the all time great cult classics, troll two, last Saturday. Troll two, yeah, you guys have all seen troll two, oh yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 36:55

I hope you didn't piss on their hospitality, Jacob, because I won't allow it.

Jacob Davidson: 37:01

Nope, nope. Did not piss on hospitality. I learned my lesson a long time ago. Good, but yeah, no, just, you know, it a while since I, uh, since I re watched it. And also it was cool because it was a 35 millimeter print, and I don't think I've ever seen troll two on film, but, yeah, no, it is just such a fun crowd movie, still, you know, just, just all this stuff with the grandpa got a big reaction out of the audience. And, like, I don't think the audience really knew how to respond during the corn popcorn sex scene in the RFP. And, yeah, I don't

Jonathan Correia: 37:36

know how to respond. You get into it seems hot. Yeah, no, a

Jacob Davidson: 37:41

friend of mine was saying she should have spit in his mouth, like Haley Stanfield in Sinners. And yeah, and also, they're eating her. They're gonna eat me. Oh, my God, they got like a standing ovation. It was pure, is pure cinema. And, yeah, you know, just yeah, like, I do. I do still really appreciate these so bad. It's good kind of cold horror because, yeah, it's like, great community screenings. And, yeah, like, I did. I ever tell you guys I was in the documentary, best, worst movie

Jonathan Correia: 38:15

The we're not doing this again. We're not doing this again, Jacob. We're not doing this again. Stop

James Jay Edwards: 38:23

looking for you again. I

Jacob Davidson: 38:24

will. No, I swear to God, I'm in there. You could see me in a group hug with George Hardy, the dad. Oh, my dentist, dad. This

Jonathan Correia: 38:32

is the all productivity of my day is gone now. Just gonna be scanning

James Jay Edwards: 38:38

another thing that I saw, and I think Jacob saw it too, but Correia has not. So we want to stay pretty spoiler free, but I do want to talk about it. Friendship,

Jacob Davidson: 38:49

oh yes. Friendship, okay. Friendship,

James Jay Edwards: 38:52

this is Paul Rudd's one two punch between it and death of a unicorn for a 24 friendship is it's about this kind of loser dude who makes friends with his cool neighbor. Who the cool neighbor is Paul Rudd,

Jacob Davidson: 39:06

yeah, it's Tim Robinson, who's playing the loser guy from, I think you should leave,

James Jay Edwards: 39:12

yeah, okay, this, it's, I mean, it's, it's questionably horror, but you can put it in a horror lens. Here's the deal with it. And I'm, I really don't want to spoil any of this for Correia, but I'm going to give you a different lens to watch this in Korea, because I've been struggling with this one. I think that it basically, I think he manufactures his friendship with Paul Rudd's character. And I if you look at it through comparing it to like King of Comedy or even Joker, where you're not sure how reliable the narrator is, and then you start questioning yourself, okay, well, how much this really happened, and where friendship doesn't do it quite as well as those others. Is it doesn't really lift the curtain. It doesn't really give you the the answer. It doesn't, you know, give. The answer it, whereas those other ones let you know towards the end, okay, Joker has been lying to us this whole time. This one doesn't really do that, but, um, but it just gave me a new a new way to look at it. I'm like, because it's the first thing that makes you wonder about it, is there's no way that this loser dude would get a wife as hot as Kate Mara you're like, Okay, something isn't add up, and she does. And again, I don't know how much this is, just through his eyes, she hangs out a lot with one of her exes, so he's kind of projecting, and he's like, kind of suspicious, but also kind of getting cuckolded. And you're like, well, which is it? I don't know this. It's a weird it doesn't go to the dark places you'd expect it to, but there's definitely some there's definitely some therapy that needs to be had in this movie. What did you think of it? I really

Jacob Davidson: 40:53

loved it. I thought it was so funny, and it's funny that it was not written by Tim Robinson, but it's very in line with his type of humor from like, I think he should leave, and that kind of cringe comedy, but yeah, I do feel like there's a bit of a horror lens to it, because it is a lot about obsession, and he's stopped, and he's he's stalking his cool neighbor. So it does have kind of that Cable Guy edge to it for modern times. I also love that the tagline of the movie is men shouldn't have friends. They should have Yeah, men shouldn't have friends. That's the tech line of the movie, and it is kind of kind of dealing with how like a friendship can spiral out of control, though, it just takes it to an entirely different level. And there's a really great scene where he's so desperate to try and figure his shit out that he tries to do drugs, and he's convinced to try licking a toad. And I will, I won't say what happens, but it's incredible incredible, what they do with that

James Jay Edwards: 42:03

the toad. And he the guy who sets him up with the toad. It's like a quick little thing, where he go. He's, he goes 100 bucks. He's, well, what do I feed it? He's on No, 100 bucks per lick, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 42:19

yeah, no, just it. It is just such a fun dynamic and it, yeah, no, it is an interesting movie because I, I actually went to a pre screening of it, and the director even said that he wrote the movie as a response to having a falling out with a friend, or like he was trying to be friends with this guy, and he was, uh, rejected. So this is, this is a response. He is.

James Jay Edwards: 42:40

Tim Robinson, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 42:43

Before we go, I have a I have a book nook recommendation, because if you're like me and you have become obsessed with Sinners, I actually saw it for a third time, this time in IMAX, 70 millimeter, which, oh, oh, Gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeous greeting, gorgeous. I was crying so much at the end. But if you're obsessed and there's a bit of a hole in your heart because you can't really go see it again, and you already saw it in IMAX, I got really into this comic book series. It's called Bitter Root, and it's it's absolutely phenomenal. It takes place predominantly during the Harlem Renaissance of the 1930s and it follows this family. They're like demon hunters, and they hunt these creatures called genuine which is what happens to humans whose hearts and souls are filled with so much hatred and racism that they become these creatures, and it's this. So it's this black family. They've been fighting it for generations. Ma Etta, she's the matriarchy of the of the family, and no one knows her age, but she keeps saying that she was freed by Harriet Tubman, and like they lost families at the Tulsa race massacres. And there's so much about generational trauma and racism and but with all in the context of like horror and it's so much fun. It's like Lovecraft Country meets Ghostbusters, essentially, but with, like, far more of a steampunk esthetic, the artwork is incredible. The story and characters are super rich. I think legendary already has the adaptation rights to it, so I hope they do something. But the the original run is already collected in an omnibus, and they have a new series called Bitter Root, the next movement, which I haven't gotten into yet, but the covers for it have this very like, 1950s 60s, future futurism, kind of like what the new Fantastic Four looks like, but mixed with, like, Afro Futurism and a bit of black exploitation influence. So like, yeah, Bitter Root, especially if you have that Sinners itch. I. Highly recommend. It is such a great read.

James Jay Edwards: 45:02

Sinners Itch is the name of my next band. Ooh, ooh.

Jonathan Correia: 45:09

I hate when people do Band games, but that is a good band name.

Jacob Davidson: 45:13

And speaking of book nook, like I just started rereading, or I started reading Stephen King's Nightmares and Dreamscapes. I think, I think I rewatched, oh yeah, because I rewatch creep show a couple weeks ago, and I was in the mood for some Stephen King, so I decided, been a while since I picked up one of the anthologies. And nightmares and dreamscapes seem to have a good mix of a lot of the shorts I like, particularly adaptations, because, like, it's got the night flyer in there, I think it has, well, it has all the stories that were in the nightmares and dreamscapes mini series way back when, and also has some stories that were never adapted but are pretty fun, like rainy season and, Yeah, you know, just it a while since I've read King, but yeah, he just has such a hook in such a way with, uh, really getting you into a premise, no matter how ridiculous or how fast,

James Jay Edwards: 46:11

how can you be sure that it hasn't been adapted with all of the 1000s of King addictions that are just like, you Know, the dollar babies and stuff,

Jacob Davidson: 46:20

fair point. But some of, I mean, there's still some stuff that has been adapted, just because of the sheer amount of short stories that Eaton King has written. I mean, how many anthologies are there? Good God. I

Jonathan Correia: 46:34

mean, it's an insane amount. I'm trying to get through my Swamp Thing run as well as Bitter Root. Before I crack into the Bachman books, which is a collection of four early novels that were he did under Bachman, including the one that was never reprinted. I was gonna say, Do you

James Jay Edwards: 46:53

what the school shooting one, right? What's it called? Rage? Rage, yeah. Rage, yeah, yeah. So you have a copy of it that has rage in it, then,

Jonathan Correia: 47:02

yeah, it's definitely not as rare as the, you know, just rage on its own books, but it's a cool collection I'm looking forward to. I think it also has Running Man in there. Yeah, Running Man is one of the I'm staring at it on my shelf, but I can't reach it like headphones won't allow me to but yeah, all

James Jay Edwards: 47:23

right, cool. Well, we're pretty much just done here. Apologize for a couple things, for the short episode, for one and also for missing a week because, you know, hey, we all just kind of got busy and life happens, yeah, and this is also why we're on both accounts, why we missed a week, and this one's getting cut short. So yeah, hope you like the episodes where we just catch up, because who knows when we'll do another topic or guest? Maybe we should just do these just

Jonathan Correia: 47:59

once a month? No,

James Jay Edwards: 48:00

we're switching to once a month, just the three of us talking.

Jonathan Correia: 48:03

We'll see I'm not

James Jay Edwards: 48:06

even gonna promise that we're gonna see you in two weeks, because last time I did that, I ended up with egg on my face. If you miss my voice in the times we're not here, you can hear it on the crypto zoo, which does still go every two weeks. And if you miss Jacob's voice, the hallow rewind has been pretty consistent too, at putting episodes out so you can hear him there. If you miss Koreas voice, I don't know, maybe send a message to us. He might be able to, he can send you his red right hand. Acapella, yeah, if revision, if

Jonathan Correia: 48:35

you miss my voice, I'm gonna say tough titties. But you can also message us on Instagram and I'll, I'll rant about X Files or Star Trek at Yeah, if you want, especially X Files, I want season five right now, go

James Jay Edwards: 48:47

get me started to start. Yeah, actually, do get him started about Star Trek. So he does it to you guys, and not us.

Jonathan Correia: 48:55

Well, I mean, if you get me started on X Files, just get ready for me to refer to Skinner and Mulder as baby girl quite a bit, because it's, oh, don't even get me started. Because X Files, I think, is proof that we need to go back to the 22 episode season.

Jacob Davidson: 49:08

Oh, yeah, I dream of the day. Oh,

James Jay Edwards: 49:10

Twilight Zone did that for me. Like the classic twilight zone, when you look at how long those seeds are, oh, it's beautiful.

Jonathan Correia: 49:16

Anyway, Twilight Zone needs to be a half hour, this whole hour long twilight zone episodes, guys, that's what killed the original series. Stop when you're re adapting it, making an hour, half hour tight, in, out, Go in,

James Jay Edwards: 49:27

go out. I always say Twilight Zone is the only show that jumped the shark and then jumped back, because it was the fourth season where they went to an hour. And those are pretty and they're pretty tedious, but then, well, some of them are good, but yeah, the fifth season has some of the most memorable episodes, though. So you're like, when they went back to a half an hour, they went back to, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 49:48

like the fifth season is what got us at nightmare, 20,000 feet. Hell yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 49:53

which stars? William Shatner, so the thing about Star Trek, no,

James Jay Edwards: 49:58

okay, we're out of here, correct? Look, yeah, if you want to hear Korea's Star Trek nook, message him, but we'll, I will see you. We'll see you when we see you, hopefully two weeks. But I'm not gonna make promises anymore, because, you know, but, yeah, our theme song is by restless spirit. So go check them out. They are on tour everywhere, all the time, so you could probably see them before you'll see us again. Go and our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out. You can see his artwork anywhere, and you can find us on all the socials. If you do want to hear Correia talk about Star Trek again, if you miss me or Jacob, that's the cryptozoo and the hallow rewind. Yeah, I'm going to plug those because hey, oh yeah, not as many people listen to the crypto zoo as I on horror. I don't know about hallow rewind, but anyway, so yeah, this sign offs taking longer than it should, so I'm just going to say we'll see you when we see you. For me, James, Jay Edwards,

Jacob Davidson: 50:58

I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia: 50:59

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards: 51:00

Keep your Eye On Horror.