A Sinful Return

Life got in the way, but the Boys are back in town! This week, the boys praise the hell out of Sinners and review Death of a Unicorn, Freaky Tales, Hell of a Summer, The Legend of Ochi, Drop, Warfare, The Amateur, A Working Man, and Until Dawn. 

Also this week, the return of Correia's Book Nook with graphic novel recommendations of We Ride Titans, Bronze Age Swamp Thing, Dynamite's Space Ghost, Spider-Punk, and the audiobook version of Garth Marenghi's TerrorTome read by Garth Marenghi.

It's all new this week on EYE ON HORROR!

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James Jay Edwards: 0:25

Welcome back to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of ihorror.com. It's been a while. This is episode 144 otherwise known as season eight. Episode Four. I'm your host, James J Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davison, how you doing? Jacob,

Jacob Davidson: 0:43

doing much better. I had a really bad sinus infection that took me out for the first half of April.

James Jay Edwards: 0:50

Yikes. Ease them. Yeah, glad you're feeling better. Also with us, as always is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing? Correia,

Jonathan Correia: 0:59

I'm devastated. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 1:01

you, you've, you got some really terrible news,

Jonathan Correia: 1:05

yeah, yeah. After a year for the last year, the thing that has kept me going, the thing that when, when I am at wits end, the end of my rope, all that stuff, the thing that's been keeping me going is, it's all right, keep living. You're seeing Kylie Minogue and Denver at the end of April. And wait, Jay, are we a minute in, like with the with the end, with the intro music and all that somewhere about, okay, cool. So I can swear now, awesome. They fucking canceled my Kylie Minogue concert for a fucking sports game, and not even that. It's a fucking Colorado basketball game. Like, fuck off they go

James Jay Edwards: 1:45

Denver Nuggets. They're in the playoffs. And to kick balls even more, the Colorado Avalanche are in the playoffs. So they can't even just reschedule. Well, they

Jonathan Correia: 1:54

couldn't even reschedule for later that week anyways, because Kylie's coming to Los Angeles on May 2, which I can't afford to do either. So it's like, so they, yeah, they fully cancel it. They're refunding everybody. But it's just like, you fucking that is that a hate crime? That's a hate crime. It's like, Kylie Minogue is fucking sports game.

James Jay Edwards: 2:12

I hate crime. Hey, at least she decided to come here because, hey, if I was from another country, she's Australian. I don't know if I'd set foot in America, dude.

Jonathan Correia: 2:22

It's, it's, but this tour, it's two albums worth. It's tensions one and two. It's the tensions tour. Padum Padum. Come on. Like, this is Mass This is a massive tour. She's touring all over the place. And like, oh, anyways, I'll get over it at some point. They wouldn't

James Jay Edwards: 2:40

even trade your tickets for another city. No, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 2:43

that's ridiculous, boo,

James Jay Edwards: 2:45

yeah. Well, all right. Well, let's, we'll, let's try to cheer you up. There has been a ton of cool shit that's come out. Hey, look, you've even got me cussing. A ton of cool stuff that's come out since last time we talked. Please tell me that you both have seen Sinners. Yes,

Jonathan Correia: 3:04

yo, yes. That is, that is now the one that that's, that's the one thing that's keeping me going. Now, I was talking with my therapist, and they're like, they're like, so what's keeping you going? And I started to say, Oh, well, you know, well, it's the fact that. And they stopped me right there. Like, don't say, don't say there's a Predator movie coming out. I was like, well, fun fact, there's actually two coming out. And they went, Okay, that's a pretty good reason to live. But no, so that was the that was beginning of yesterday. And then last night I saw Sinners,

James Jay Edwards: 3:35

sinners. Oh, my god, so good. That's giving

Jonathan Correia: 3:37

me will to live, baby. I am living to go see that movie. Like I walked out of the theater, I was like,

do I try to make the 10: 3:43

45 screen as well? Because electrifying gotta be up pretty early to record that podcast. But like, fuck me. Um, so good, although let

Jacob Davidson: 3:54

me ask you guys, how did you see it? Because I saw it in 70 millimeter at the VISTA.

James Jay Edwards: 3:58

I saw it in IMAX. Not not a 70 millimeter, but it was on an IMAX. And the thing is, especially during one particular scene, which everybody knows the scene, that scene, oh, yes, you want that on, not only the biggest screen possible, but the best sound system possible.

Jonathan Correia: 4:18

Yeah, it's incredible. I saw it in just regular IMAX and so, like, the aspect ratio changes were insane, especially for the siege scene later, where, like, it just, like, slowly, like, rolls out into fill the screen, and you could just hide, like, my nipples got so hard From that, but no, the opening of the veil scene, I still wear a mask in the theater, but I had the dumbest look on my face. I felt it, and it was there the entire time, like my jaw was down and my eyebrows were in a like, the fuck like. I just couldn't believe that they fucking did that.

Jacob Davidson: 4:58

It's so. Oh,

James Jay Edwards: 5:01

Sinners as a movie is freaking awesome. I think it's a step below Companion for my favorite of the year so far, but only because Companion was an experience, because I got to see it before all of the before all of the spoilers got out. Sinners is the complete package. It is such a freaking it's an experience. It's basically, it's Ryan Coogler, who did you know Creed and Black Panther and all those. And, of course, his man, Michael B Jordan, who is in every movie of his, but there's two Michael B Jordans, because he plays twins, who they allude that he worked, that they worked for Al Capone in Chicago, but they work for the mob in Chicago, and they come back home to their little town in Alabama, and they want to open a juke joint Mississippi. Yep. Is it Mississippi? I thought it was Alabama, but anyway, sometimes somewhere in the Jim Crow South, yeah. And they they want to open this juke joint. And they have the connections, and they have, you know, the money now, but you know there's, there's evil in them woods, and there's a hardcore From Dusk Till Dawn influence on this movie, because it starts out being about these guys open up their juke joint, and it ends with pure evil raining down upon their juke joint. So that's so good, though.

Jonathan Correia: 6:26

Yeah, and the through line theme of music, and the soul of it, because it's 1930s so it's, it's very heavy influence of the blues and and rock and things of that nature. And the through line of it is just so gorgeous. This is really amazing bit early in the movie where, first and foremost, everyone shines in this movie. I don't think there's a single bad character. Everyone has a moment. There's incredible music performed the score by Ludwig gorison is just, oh, there is definitely some goblin influence towards the end. But

James Jay Edwards: 7:08

also the score, it's like, it goes through this, a lot of this Robert Johnson Crossroads blues, but then they'll put kind of this resner Atticus thing underneath it, where you're like, Okay, there's the devil coming out of it. Oh, yeah, the score and the sound to this movie are so beautiful. Yeah, this movie is just the whole package. I mean, it's, it's as close to a perfect movie as I think we're gonna get this year. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 7:36

and it's just amazing how well it's done too. Like I've been trying to see it in 70 millimeter IMAX at the universal AMC, and it's been sold out for like, two weeks. Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 7:46

I That's why I had to see it at Burbank 16 and sit in the very back row last night, because even during the week, everything was sold out. So yeah, I'm definitely trying to see it on over at City Walk, but the cast was incredible, especially a huge shout out for Delroy Lindo, who, you know is a great actor, is always a supporting actor, and in this he really shines. And, I mean, he's just so good on so many levels. He's fucking hilarious. But there's this one particular bit where they're driving in a car, and he's talking about what happened to a buddy of his in 1930s Jim Crow South. And of course, it's not a happy tale, but he starts to, like, get over, really emotional, really worked up, and then he just instantly starts turning that into a blues song. And it's just like, like, it's like Coogler and CO perfectly captured. Like, what that? What music is in particular that, and then also tying that into Irish jig as well, and showing like, similarities, like there was, Oh, my God, they I love that. The villains were doing a lot of Irish jig music, and no one was just like, get the fuck out here with that music. Like they were like, Oh, these guys are good. Like, it's, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 9:01

that was the craziest river dancing scene, I think I've ever seen.

Jonathan Correia: 9:05

My body left my soul.

James Jay Edwards: 9:07

That was the funny thing. They can't and, I mean, it's a little on the nose that that the head vampires white. But when he rolls up and they start, you know, they want to come in and they want to jam the juke joint, and they're playing like this, you know, mum bird and sons, kind of folk and and, of course, it's the whitest song you could ever envision anybody ever playing. But even the even the juke joint, people are like this, sounds pretty good, you know, yeah. I mean, it's not what we want to hear in here, but, but these white boys can play, no,

Jonathan Correia: 9:45

it wasn't even about like, I don't know about that, about that music. It was literally just like, this is a safe space for us. You know, there's plenty of other places you can drink, there's plenty of other places that you can perform. This is for us. And. Was the initial like, all right, you need to go. But like, they were considering it. And, yeah, I

Jacob Davidson: 10:06

mean, I've read a lot of interesting analysis and responses to the movie Dell Delroy lindo himself said he didn't really consider the movie a horror movie so much as a allegory for assimilation. Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 10:20

exactly. Oh, man. And then the camera work. The how insane, what they were able to do with the IMAX cameras was the 65 I mean, Autumn Dural, who is the DP, she's got an eye, man, because she also did Palo Alto, Wakanda forever, The Last Showgirl. But I was more like, Oh, I could see why Coogler has been working with her a lot, because she didTTeen Spirit, which was also beautifully shot. So yeah, I'm excited to see where she keeps going.

James Jay Edwards: 10:53

The Last Showgirl was beautifully shot, but it's a completely different vibe than Sinners. So she's real versatile, too. No,

Jonathan Correia: 11:03

that. That's what I'm loving about her body of work. Like all those movies I just mentioned, completely different looks, completely different things. But through line is just like, You know what? Like, the the camera is incorporated in, in fully telling the story and the themes, and it's a part of it. Like, last show girl was just, was like, what, a lot of handhelds on 16, and you really felt like you were in there, whereas this, if you you were, it was more ethereal, like moving around, a lot more static. And, ah, yeah. And I will, this is, this is a rarity, that movie had like, four endings, and I wanted five more, like I was just like eating it up. And I genuinely got so fucking excited as it's a cameo. I don't know if a whole lot of people would be stoked for but Buddy Guy popping up like one of the Greatest Guitarists of All Time, blues singer. I mean, when I, when he popped up, I I almost ran out of the road, because I was just like, No fucking way. You making a blues movie and you get Buddy Guy in it. Kugler is working some fucking magic in here. The my only thing is, I now because, like, if you're gonna franchise this, which Coogler signed a historic dealer deal with this, and that he gets the rights back after 25 years. And that's

James Jay Edwards: 12:24

the thing. People are joking that they need to go the route of like freaking Amityville with this for the 25 years that they have it. They just need to exploit the crap out of it. Because you're right, this is a deal. And this is a deal that, I mean, Ryan Coogler, he's made a name for himself, but he's not a household name. This is not Scorsese or Lucas or Spielberg. So for him to be able to demand, hey, and in 25 years, I get these rights, and for them to go for it. I mean,

Jonathan Correia: 12:58

yeah, but the, but but the movies he's made have grossed over billion, like he's he's made studios billions. So, I mean, he's definitely commanded it. But if they were to do a sequel or something, I want to spin off. I want to know more about that. Those Native American Vampire Hunters I know because they pop up for a second, but they have a presence like, Y'all have a story, and I want to know what it is, because they were cool as shit. I love that. It just, they're just like, nights coming, nope, out,

James Jay Edwards: 13:34

Yep, yeah. Well, the funny, I kind of expected them to roll up and save the day at the end. But then when you think about it, you're like, oh, nah, they, they, they did their duty, and they're, you know, it's kind of one of those deals where they just wanted to drive it away from them. And, you know, it's, it's white boys problem now, you know, it's, well,

Jacob Davidson: 13:54

that's a thing. Like they, they were smart enough, no, not to hunt vampires at night. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what we that's

Jonathan Correia: 14:00

what Jay and I were messaging last day. Because I was like, these guys are so cool. I want my own like, Yeah, but they just kind of doped out of there. It's like, yeah, they do better. They knew better than just stay after dark with that around. They were smart

James Jay Edwards: 14:12

enough. So anyway, uh, bottom line, go see sinners if you haven't, because it's amazing. It's one of the one of the movies of the year. I'm I'm calling it right now. It's going to be on all of our top 10s, probably in the top five on all three of my would guess. But anyway, let's move on. Another new thing that came out. Have you guys seen drop?

Jacob Davidson: 14:34

I didn't see drop, not yet. First of all here, okay,

James Jay Edwards: 14:37

drop is, it's a new Blumhouse movie. It's not a horror movie so much as this suspense. You know what it is. It's Red Eye for a different generation, because it's about this woman, who she's she's a widow, a widow with a with a young kid, and she goes to, she goes on a blind date, not a blind date like a like a dating app date. I. And when she gets this high scale, you know, fancy pants restaurant and the date, I mean, he's charming, he's good looking, she's pretty happy. But then she starts getting these air drops on her phone. And at first they're just like little teasing memes. But then they start saying things like, you know, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do and they're giving her these things to do, and then they're sending her pictures from her security camera at home, where there's a guy in a mask in her house that's gonna kill her son if she doesn't do this stuff. So it's it's very Red Eye, and it's actually pretty well crafted. It's Christopher Landon, who he's mostly written, more than he's directed, but like Happy Death Day and even Heart Eyes, you know, he's, he's in the Blumhouse stable, and it's pretty well crafted. It's pretty well put together. It's, it's contained. And she knows someone in this restaurant is sending her these drops, because, you know, you can't air drop across the country, so somebody she knows it's somebody within her line of sight. So it's a pretty, pretty good mystery that gets build up. I really liked it until I didn't. It kind of goes off the rails towards the end. I feel like the writers didn't quite know how to get the people out of this situation. So it kind of goes off the rails towards the end. But as far as you know, the first two acts and probably half of the third act are all really good, and then it just, kind of, it just kind of drops off. But it's, it's pretty fun. I mean, it's, I don't know that it's going to be remembered much past this year, but, I mean, it's, it's definitely worth watching, though, yeah. I mean, it looked fun, yeah, yeah, that's what it is,

Jacob Davidson: 16:48

yeah. And speaking of fun, anyone else see Death of a Unicorn? Yes, yeah, it delivered what it promised. I really

James Jay Edwards: 16:58

like death of a unicorn. Were you disappointed Correia. That was kind of a

Jonathan Correia: 17:05

it's fine. I had some fun with it. I think it needed more camp. It needed to be like, at least 25% more camp, because it felt like it was on that line a lot. I feel like will Porter knew the assignment, and he totally did with him with that. I love the creature design, and the kills were a lot of fun, but cool effects, unicorn, yeah, there was a lot of cool stuff with that. I just felt like it's, if you're gonna do a biting site satire about, like, you know, the greed of the rich and and using circles and all that jazz. Like, you got to go a little bit more. You don't have to go full on society with it and over the Topness. But I, you know, if you're using, like, unicorns to tell that and all that stuff, like, I just needed it to be a little bit more camp. And I

James Jay Edwards: 18:00

thought that it was campy. I mean, the thing is, Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega are not they are like the straight men, but the entire family, the pharmaceutical Baron family, I thought they were all completely camp. I mean, Tia Leone is, she's great. She just over acts in all the right places. I mean, it was jurassic park three for her, yeah, that's what this kind of reminded me of. It was, was like a Jurassic Park 3. See, you guys know me. I don't really do any research going into these things, so I was not expecting death unicorn to become a full on Creature Feature. But it does. It is like it, you know, because the short synopsis the elevator pitches, Paul Rudd and his daughter, Jenna Ortega, are cruising to, he's gonna, he's, he's a lawyer doing work for this pharmaceutical family, and he's trying to muscle his way on to their board. So he's cruising to their house, and it's through this isolated forest, and they hit and they think they kill a unicorn, so they throw in the back of the car and they continue up to the house. But of course, the thing's not dead, and chaos ensues all over the place with this, you know, unicorn, yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 19:15

And then it turns out that the Unicorn has extremely healing properties with its blood and horn, and the people that they're meeting are the heads of this big ass pharmaceutical company. And also, I do love that Richard E grant is there as the ruthless pharma CEO, like, he really nailed that, and also being a big game hunter, yeah. And

James Jay Edwards: 19:39

he's also dying. And like, that's part of the reason why Paul Red's going up there, because they have to transfer his company. But when they find out that the horn and blood have these properties, of course, it heals him and he sees dollar signs. So yeah, it's, it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of a biting satire, but it's also. Just a freaking monster.

Jacob Davidson: 20:03

Yeah? Like, we get a lot of violent unicorn based kills, with people getting stomped, stabbed, bitten,

James Jay Edwards: 20:10

hooved. Yep, they're you get a lot of good you get a lot of good carnage.

Jonathan Correia: 20:17

Yeah, I just, I just wanted to, because again, Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega could have camped it up hard and and been a part of the fun, but it did. It felt like those two different movies going on, and they didn't really want to, like, lean into it. And I Yeah, so you're

James Jay Edwards: 20:36

saying that the scientists are the only ones that should have been played it straight.

Jonathan Correia: 20:40

Yeah. I mean, again, it was, it had, it had a lot of fun moments. It's not a bad movie. I just, I was sitting there just wanting a bit more.

James Jay Edwards: 20:48

The guy who stole it for me was Griff the he's kind of a butler, caretaker of this pharmaceutical family. And anytime something, some shit needs to be done, they're like, oh, Griff, go do it. And he's like, Oh, you got to be fucking, you know, you go out in the front yard and, you know, do something while these unicorns are out there. He's like, You gotta be kidding me, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 21:07

no, no, he was great. That's Anthony Kerrigan, who plays no ho Hank from Barry. And yeah, no, he was really good in it as just being, yeah, it kind of this kind of the straight man in the situation of like, You're seriously asking me to go out there where the unicorn just ripped apart a bunch of people.

Jonathan Correia: 21:25

Oh, but the thing that's super disappointed me is they had Jessica Hynes in it, who is from Spaced, and they gave her, like, no comedic moments at all, like she was the most straight, like, straight man character out there as, like, like, even, like, the head of security or something, who is, like, trying to take it down and stuff. And I'm just like, how do you have Jessica Heinz in your movie and you don't allow her comedic chops to, like, shine? And I think that's, that's the thing is, you got a lot of people, like, even Paul Rudd, where it's like, there's no goofy Paul Rudd in this like, where's Where's, where's my goofy goober. Come on, yeah. They didn't

Jacob Davidson: 22:02

have him play ridiculously, but they did, yeah, they had him be a bit more deadpan, and that he was kind of a dumb ass because, like, Jenner, like a general or take is having, like, the spiritual moment with the unicorn, and then he bashes its head in with a tire iron, like, like, stuff like that. I thought was pretty funny, but

James Jay Edwards: 22:22

I did love the reveal of how they discovered the magical properties, because when he bashes its head in, because he thinks he's doing it a favor by putting his out of its misery, but the blood splatters up on him, and all of a sudden he doesn't need his glasses anymore because the blood got in his eyes. And Jenna Ortegas, she is Acne at the beginning of the movie, and it clears up, and you're like, okay, something's going on with what splashed on. It's, oh, it's, yeah, I really had fun with Death of a Unicorn. I thought it was good. Yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 22:52

I really enjoyed that. Have either you guys seen Warfare? No, haven't gone to that yet, not yet

James Jay Edwards: 23:00

taking it to the opposite end of the spectrum, we're gonna go not fun warfare. It's the new Alex Garland, and it was co Written and directed by by a guy who lived it a Navy SEAL.

Jonathan Correia: 23:14

He was a consultant on Civil War, right?

James Jay Edwards: 23:18

Was he?

Jacob Davidson: 23:18

Yeah, I think that's how him and garland knew each other.

James Jay Edwards: 23:22

Yeah, his name's Ray Mendoza, and he, he maybe that, that you know, with his, with his consulting garlands, like there's a movie there. Here's the thing with warfare as an experience, it's amazing. It drops you right into this. There's basically this SEAL team that's laying down sniper fire for another operation, and they get, they get pinned down themselves. They're in Iraq, and they basically take over this house, and they're laying down fire, and they have to be extracted. And it is basically just this visceral, you know, intense experience. And it's, there's no fat on it at all. It is about 90 minutes, and it goes, I mean, there's a little prequel deal where they show the soldiers, you know, having fun before they before hell breaks loose. And there's a little afterwards thing, which is kind of interesting, because at the afterward, they show the actor next to the real soldier that he played, because this is all a true story, and about two thirds of them, the actor, the real soldiers face, is blurred out. And I'm wondering, is that because they're still active duty seals and they, you know, they don't want to blow their cover, or did they not sign releases? Or, you know, I was wondering why these guys were their face were blown out. But as an experience, you know, it puts you right in the warfare. And I don't think I've seen it as immersive of a warfare movie since, like maybe Dunkirk, where the only reason Dunkirk was immersive is because of the sound. This is. The whole experience. But to me, warfare feels like part of a bigger movie. You know, like, from a story standpoint, it feels like just like a big long it feels like the climax of a longer movie. So, you know, a plus for the experience. I give it a c plus for actual narrative.

Jacob Davidson: 25:24

Yeah, I heard it compared to Black Hawk Down. What do you Who do you think

James Jay Edwards: 25:27

I haven't seen Black Hawk Down, so I don't know, but it, um, but it is. I mean, basically the whole thing is them having to pull these soldiers out. And it's kind of funny, because at 1.1 of the tries of pulling them out, and this happens actually fairly early. They hit an eye an IUD, and one of the soldiers gets completely messed up. His leg gets blown off, and for the rest of the movie, in the street out in front of this house, his leg is just sitting there, and you're like, someone picked that up. I mean, he's gonna need, I mean, it's kind of, it's kind of morbidly humorous. You know that the parts of this poor soldier are strewn about the house, you know, because they pull him in, but, you know, his leg is still out there. So, you know, there, that's part of the deal is they're like, you know, no man left behind. They're like, tourni, kidding him, and they have to give him morphine and all this. You know, the guys who are wounded, they have to, they're trying to keep them alive while another and they do this thing that's really kind of cool. They call it show of force, where they call in an air strike. But the air strike doesn't actually launch any missiles or guns. It just flies real low over the street, which obviously causes, like, a big sonic boom and kicks up dust and everything. And it's disorienting. So it gives them some cover to, like, do whatever they need to do. But they'll call in, you know, we need to show a force here, and then, like an F 16 will just fly real low and blow everything, you know, figuratively blow everything up, you know, not literally launch any because, you know, they don't want to completely obliterate this city block, you know, but they do want to lay down some, some cover for these people. So I thought that was kind of interesting little peek behind the curtain of uh, of Navy operations, I guess,

Jacob Davidson: 27:21

on another, uh, opposite end of the spectrum. Did any of you guys see, uh, Freaky Tales? No,

Jonathan Correia: 27:28

what I did win a letter box contest with it. So, haha, Jacob, you're not the only one who wins stuff. I won something. Okay, you got

Jacob Davidson: 27:35

me there. I'm

Jonathan Correia: 27:37

getting a t shirt. Oh, damn, I

Jacob Davidson: 27:40

wanted that T shirt, but anyway, yeah, no, I wasn't really sure what to expect going in, but it just sounded pretty out there. It's basically not an horror anthology, but an anthology of kind of these different colliding plot lines in 1987 Oakland. And, yeah, there's and it kind of hits a bunch of different genres, because, like, there's a story about these punks who keep on getting attacked by the skinhead gang, and they decide to defend themselves. And about this up and coming girl rap duo try to hit it big, and Pedro Pascal plays this leg breaker who wants to get out of the business. And the final story, and the craziest one, is about the NBA All Star whose girlfriend and mother are attacked by robbers who are part of a gang who were attacking basketball stars during the big playoffs, and he decides to get revenge, because it turns out he's a martial arts master, and it was a lot of fun. And it was crazy how stacked that cast is, because it turned out it was directed by Anna Bonin and Ryan Fleck, who did like, uh, Captain Marvel and stuff like that. And so, yeah, yeah, I said Pedro Pasco. But they also got Ben Mendelsohn, and probably his most like, sleazy, villainous, just, just most hateable character, like he plays this racist Oakland detective. And, I mean, it was a lot of fun, and a lot of Neo Nazis and skinheads get their ass beats. So, you know, that's always a good time. Yeah, always,

James Jay Edwards: 29:19

always, Oh, so you're saying that Correia, to get even with the NBA took out a hit on all these NBA players to try to free up, whoa, wait, try to try to free up ball arena for a Kylie Minogue concert.

Jonathan Correia: 29:37

First and foremost, don't be putting stuff out there in the ether of me having plots against people with way more money with than me.

James Jay Edwards: 29:45

You got to be careful what you say these days, don't you? Yeah, don't

Jacob Davidson: 29:49

you put that evil on me. Ricky Bobby,

Jonathan Correia: 29:51

but also, I mean, one moment back to that ball arena. Come on, Colorado. Oh, we're building a sports arena where there's. To be a bunch of sports. What should we do? Well, they all have balls in common, because they play with balls. It's like, Yeah, let's do that, even though they also do fucking hockey, yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 30:09

let's call it the puck arena when the avalanche are playing there. But I

Jonathan Correia: 30:13

also can't make fun of another arenas name, because, LA, we have crypto.com.com like, I mean, come on. But at least that we got money for it to be called that y'all chose to call it ball arena. So

Jacob Davidson: 30:26

I, at this point, I preferred the Staples Center, right,

Jonathan Correia: 30:30

right. I don't know why, but that sounds better,

Jacob Davidson: 30:34

because crypto sucks. Yeah, that's true.

Jonathan Correia: 30:38

I have, I do have some Correia book nook recommendations. I'll rapid fire them because I recently got a new refurbished Fire book for like 40 bucks. And so I've been hitting the hoopla app really hard, which is another free service from your library. So check your local library. If you can get an LA library, they spend the most money on these programs. So yeah, figure it out. Rapid fire. We Ride Titans. Is a dope mechs. Mech versus kaiju story with a lesbian protagonist. It's basically lesbian Pacific Rim. It's really good, with good family dynamics.

Jacob Davidson: 31:19

And who put that out?

Jonathan Correia: 31:21

It was written by Adrian F Wassel or Wessel. It's an indie comic, but you can find it digitally or your local comic. It's just one trade right now. And what was it called? Again, We Ride Titans. Yeah, that one's really good. There's a new Space Ghost comic series where they take his lores very serious. And it is phenomenal. They turn, who's the green guy again? Zorak. Zorak. They turn zorak into like a cosmic horror cult leader, fanatic, and that's not even the coolest thing. That's just like one aspect, but they take the lore very serious. And it's really, really good. It's very like, kind of like origin stories about how the siblings join them and what their purpose is. I was blown away by it, and the artwork is incredible. I believe dynamite is putting that out. Um, highly recommend that. Uh, I've been getting into Swamp Thing because I want to read from the beginning. And let me tell you, Bronze Age Swamp Thing is incredible, because they like do redo his origin story after the one shot, and then they immediately ship him off to Europe, for some reason, but the entire time, because Swamp Thing is a tragic character. He's a scientist. Accident happens. He melds with the swamp, and he becomes the swamp monster thing, who can't talk. It's a tragic monster story classic. That's why he's he's so good for multiple things, but the narrator is a fucking prick, because, like, it's almost like every other slide they go and this walking abomination of for of a former human. And it was just like, Jesus, let the leave the leave the man alone. Like he's, he's, he's doing the best he can, fighting whatever the this

Jacob Davidson: 33:10

thing is, they know they I remember reading some of the Swamp Thing comments, and they really like to emphasize just, he's D the monster,

Jonathan Correia: 33:17

yeah. It's like, if you were narrating like a nerdy kid and be like, and this pit bull face country here can't walk down the hallway without getting wedged. And it's like, dude, leave him alone. The irony is, in that first volume, the worst issue is when he meets Batman, but they quickly make up for it in the next issue with this Lovecraftian Cronenberg horror, body horror, like Elder God creature that he finds in a cave. It's great. Also, the spider punk series, I think they recently just put out a volume two. Is incredible. I highly recommend it if you like that character from the comics. And then last recommendation, I finally got to really deep dive on my Garth Marenghi's Terror Tome audio book. If you can read it, it's great, but the audio book is, if you know Garth Marenghi from Garth Marenghi's Dark Place. He's a fictional horror writer that's like a parody of Stephen King Dean Koonz and all them. That's just very over the top. And this is supposed to be his actual book. And if you listen to the audiobook, it's him reading it himself. And it is, it's so weird, like, I think it's three stories, and the first one is about how a fake, fictional author that's like a based on him, starts a relationship with a cursed typewriter that's not only typing like evil, but he's also having sex with it. And so there's entire passages just talking about, like, the typewriter mashing his his bits and stuff, and like, how that, how that's doing it for him. And I'm being very like, censored with how it is they go into very graphic details on those sex scenes. And it is hilarious. And again, it. It's, it's through the voice of Garth Marenghi and Garth Marenghi reads everything he goes front page. Garth Marenghis terror tome about the author. It's like, just reads like the whole sleep before getting into the book. It's brilliant. Highly recommend. I still

Jacob Davidson: 35:17

love the the main inspiration for Garth Marenghi was the teaser trailer for Maximum Overdrive, where Stephen King says, I'm gonna scare you to death. Yeah, that's, that's where they started.

Jonathan Correia: 35:27

That's the energy of Garth Marenghi. Yeah, that's, that's perfect. He's just very over the top. He's like, and, and if there is a way to add, like, an extra adjective to a to a noun, Garth Marenghi adds six that, and that's like, like, if you took out all the adjectives, all the parables, all that from it that the chap the chapter, goes from like 100 pages to like five. It's, it's insane, and it's, again, as an audio book. It is the funniest thing. I really annoyed Lindsey on that drive back from Palm Springs the other day listening to that.

James Jay Edwards: 36:01

So a couple of things that I don't know if you guys have seen, couple of, not really horror, but action movies. Have you guys seen a working man? No,

Jonathan Correia: 36:11

no, I didn't get but I know, but I know it's beekeepers. No, it isn't.

James Jay Edwards: 36:15

It isn't. It's the boys that may it's the guys. Yeah, it is not. I was expecting it to be the beekeeper part two, and it was not. It's not nearly as much fun. It's not as over the top. It's basically, I mean, Jason Statham. Don't even pretend that the character has a name. He's Jason Statham, and he is, um, he works for this construction company, and their daughter gets kidnapped, so he has to save him from this Russian mob. And it's just not fun. It's not as much fun as the beekeeper. The beekeeper was just by the end of the beekeeper, he's fighting off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle villains. And this is just not that fun. And there's one it. There's also one scene towards the beginning where, like, he's like a construction foreman, and all these guys show up and start beating up one of his guys, and he goes up there and kicks all their asses and, you know, tells them, get off my site, you know. And you think, Okay, this is our inciting incident. Well, no, that goes nowhere. That just proves what a bad ass he is. And you're like, Wait, so you guys aren't going to come back and try to finish this. It just, it was a little disappointing. But they do have the the ultimate Family Guy, where he's, he's he's fighting a guy, and then they stop fighting, and he goes, You're not a cop, you're a working man. So it does have that, but, yeah, working man is not, it's no beekeeper part two.

Jonathan Correia: 37:48

So if it's, if it's not good, can't be fun, like beekeepers, it at least like, is it? It leans more towards, like, taking and taking being serious, because, I mean, it is about human trafficking a business, yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 38:00

it, it does lean more towards that. Only Jason Statham is not Liam Neeson. You know, he's more like pure muscle and not as clever. You know, I don't know it's

Jonathan Correia: 38:12

Well, I mean, Jason stathams and Liam neesons are two different flavors of ice cream,

James Jay Edwards: 38:17

exactly, exactly. And I think Jason Statham, yeah, Jason Statham. Statham tastes better with a little bit of bee honey on, I might say, because the beekeeper was awesome. But, yeah, not much. But also another action movie that's not really horror, The Amateur. Do you guys see the amateur?

Jonathan Correia: 38:37

You know, I did. I saw that trailer went, That's a dad movie. I'm there. You

James Jay Edwards: 38:41

know, the thing is, the amateur, the amateur, I did kind of want it to be a little campier, especially when they get into some of the tech stuff that he does, which is, you know, it's not quite, you know, two idiots, one keyboard, but some of the tech stuff that he does because he's like a cryptographer, or whatever. He's a code breaker for the CIA and, um, and what happens is, you know, the the elevator pitch for this is his wife goes to London and is killed in a terrorist attack. So he goes to his bosses, and he's a CIA code breaker. But he said, goes to them and says, I want you to train me as an agent so I can take my revenge on these guys myself. And he actually has dirt on his bosses, so he kind of blackmails him into letting him do this. And Lawrence Fishburn, it's Rami Malek is the guy, and Lawrence Fishburn is is the guy training him. And when he goes, he's trying to train him to shoot, and he can't hit the side of he can't hit the side of a freaking building.

Jonathan Correia: 39:52

He's a real amateur dude. He's very much an amateur. And

James Jay Edwards: 39:56

at one point, lords Fishburne likes a holder fire and moves him. Like three quarters of the way down the range, and then he can start hitting the arms of this target, and he goes, Okay, so at least now we know you you gotta be point blank to do this so, and that kind of is the rest of the movie, when he does end up because he's smart enough to track down who killed his wife, but he has to find more creative ways to kill them, because he can't shoot for shit. In fact, they even make a joke of it at one point. And this is shown in the commercial where there's a guy swimming in a pool between two buildings and and it's, it's kind of a fun thing. Basically, the way he gets that guy is he destroys the pool and the guy falls. But at one point they asked me, Well, why don't you just shoot the glass? And he's all you've never seen me shoot.

Jonathan Correia: 40:46

Well, and I think that's the thing with the movie, because again, I went in expecting, like, a real dad thriller or whatever. I Lindsay can attest that I annoyed the piss out of them for months. Whenever that trailer came up, I just, like, right before the title came up, I was like, I don't think this guy knows what he's doing. I don't think he's a professional. And then they're not paying attention, so they go, what? And then the screen would go, the amateur. And so when I saw the movie, I timed it perfectly. There was just one of those moments, and Lindsay put a person between us. I mean, they put our friend Pat between us, because they knew this was coming. But I just heard a pals like, I don't think this guy knows what he's doing. I don't think he's a professional. And that was the most fun I had, because every, every time he did something, I was like, man, what is this amateur hour?

James Jay Edwards: 41:28

They never actually, they didn't go out as far as a working man. He didn't say, this guy's not a professional. He's the amateur. That would have been amazing.

Jonathan Correia: 41:38

But, and I think that's one of the things like, because when it was try, when it was just doing, like, government conspiracy thriller, spy stuff, it's really solid, I think, first and foremost, how he does kill people, because he can't do guns, is very jigsaw. And over the top, there's like, one part where he tries to kill someone with pollen. That's like, the first thing, and in which case, I'm like, Dude, this is fucked up. You're trying to kill this person with serious allergies, with all in like, Dude, that's worse than just shooting someone.

Jacob Davidson: 42:06

It's like that movie, law abiding citizen with, uh, jar Butler, remember that? Yeah, yeah. Or, or even

Jonathan Correia: 42:12

the the pool scene that they show off in the in the trailers, it's like, Okay, what about everyone? Because it's a pool that Brit is a bridge between two tall skyscreens. There's people on the street. About the people below it? What? What about you hear some really horrific screens come out of there. That's not from that guy. And it's like, did other people get injured or die? What the fuck? And I think the worst thing about it is the director of it did a bunch of black mirror episodes and a lot of other BBC I think he did some Doctor Who as well, because a lot of these set pieces don't feel big, and it all felt small, kind of like on that TV thing, even though, like, especially that bridge one, like they had budget and stuff. And, you know, it's, it's fine. It's a it's a solid I'd recommend, if it goes to a streaming service, check it out. It's a fun time, especially if you're sitting there, and every time he does something. You just go, what is the sandwich or hour? Like, that was, that was a blast.

James Jay Edwards: 43:04

I wanted more of that, especially seeing some, like, the weird stuff, like, like, at one point he because he knows the CIA he's gone rogue, and the CIA is after him. And at one point, he fools them into thinking he's in like, three other different cities. And the way he does that, you're like, Okay, I can see this being possible, but it was a little too easy for him. So the way that he

Jonathan Correia: 43:28

invented 70% of their technology, they as they bluntly, stay in the thing. And also you just kind of have to go, like, okay, cool. So this is hackers, hack the world, baby.

James Jay Edwards: 43:39

It kind of that's what some of the tech reminded me of, not quite as stupid as, you know, a rabbit that actually eats, yes, the technology and hackers, I'm calling it stupid, Korea is looking at me. What

Jonathan Correia: 43:49

a fight. What a fight. I'm taking my shirt off now, like we'll meet in Applebee's How dare you going to San Diego? Yeah, listen, listen, Kylie's canceled. I got nothing to live for. Man, I will. I will meet you in the Applebee's parking lot. How dare you? Merch, Hackers.

James Jay Edwards: 44:09

No, I love hackers, but you have to admit the tech is kind of silly. Crash and burn.

Jacob Davidson: 44:21

On another note there and back on horror, Did either of you guys see Hell of a Summer

James Jay Edwards: 44:27

No, I want to that's the Finn Wolfhard movie, right? Yeah, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 44:30

Finn Wolfhard and Billy brick, like they both directed, co wrote and started it. And, you know, I thought it was actually a really fun summer camp slasher throwback, because it's basically about, well, it's kind of a modern update, because, like usually in these summer camp slasher movies, like the counselors are all assholes or jerks, and they kind of just updated that for Gen Z. And I do kind of like the premise, because it's like. Um, there's this one counselor, Jay Jason, whose name is Jason. He's played by Fred hetchinger, and he's been going to the same summer camp since he was kidding. He's 24 years old, and he want, and he's trying to, like, climb his way to being, I don't know, like, assistant head of the camp and the owners of the camp are mysteriously missing, ie dead, and so they're just kind of setting things up, not knowing that there's a killer on the loose. And yeah, I thought it was a lot of fun. I mean, it's an 88 minute summer camp slasher had some pretty inventive kills. Speaking of allergies, not to do too much with spoiler, but there's a very annoying kid who keeps on bringing his allergy to peanut butter, and the killer, like, uh, ties him up and torments him by at first it seems like you're gonna stab him, then he stabs into a jar of peanut butter and threateningly approaches him with the peanut butter covered knife.

Jonathan Correia: 46:02

What that? Did they not see that episode of Freaks and Geeks where they gave Bill peanut butter? Like, that's a horrible thing to do to someone, exactly people's allergies, people? Man, yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 46:12

I don't know what it is. There's a lot of movies about people targeting people's allergies lately. I

Jonathan Correia: 46:16

know it's fun to rub bagels on your friend who has a gluten allergy and seeing the imprint on their arm, but like, don't do that, especially now that I gave you the idea, don't do that. You didn't hear from me.

James Jay Edwards: 46:27

Speaking of Finn Wolfhard, I saw the the new a 24 movie, The Legend of ochi, that opens this week. Either you guys see, have they done the pre screenings for triple A 24 on that. They

Jonathan Correia: 46:42

do have the ticket out, but I was kind of had weekend plans. I can see it now. Thanks. Fucking ball arena. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 46:52

here's the thing with legend. It is a beautifully shot. It's a beautiful movie. It is shot in Romania, and it is. The locations are gorgeous. The I want to figure out how much of Ochi is puppetry and how much is CG. There's, like this end scene where it's pretty much all CG. But I think a lot of Ochi is puppetry. You can actually kind of see on the set where the puppeteer is, like, behind or underneath him. So basically, it's about, there's this town that isn't they share space with this kind of monster, like this cryptid. And one of the leader of the cryptid hunters is Willem Dafoe, and he has this army of young boys, and Finn Wolfhard is one of them who goes hunting for these things, but he also has a daughter, and the daughter finds a young one of these ochies in a trap, so she frees it and makes friends with it. And from a story point of view, it, I wanted to connect more emotionally with it than I did. It's not it, it's not like ET, you know, where you actually feel the relationship between, you know, man and creature. So it, you know, I mean, it's a beautifully made movie, but it didn't quite hit me in the feels. There was no, you know, creature magic to it, but, but the creatures are cool, and the locations are amazing. And Willem Dafoe choose every stick of scenery in this damn movie, because that's Willem Dafoe does. He reminds me of in JoJo rabbit. Sam Rockwell, you know how, like, you know, by the end, he's donning his costume to fight. You know, Willem Dafoe kind of dons this armor that is similar to that. So it's kind of a similar character to that. But, yeah, okay, it won't be, won't quite be Kylie Minogue, but it's, it's worth doing, since you don't have plans this weekend. Well, I'm definitely

Jonathan Correia: 49:00

seeing Sinners again. I probably will be locking myself in a movie theater or at home playing

Robocop: 49:09

Rogue City, which if you if you don't play video games. Let me tell you, when I remembered that I had a desktop computer that could handle something like that. Robocop: Rogue City is so good, and yes, you can shoot people in the dick like Robocop. It's it's so much fun. And you get to give out parking tickets.

Jacob Davidson: 49:29

Nice. And in terms of new releases, this will be released by the time this episode comes out. So I can say that I saw until Dawn and I had a very fun time with it, like, if you played the games. Yes,

James Jay Edwards: 49:41

not No,

Jonathan Correia: 49:42

Until Dawn is one is again the it's a tragic victim to my ADHD of like, I'll play it for a bit, and then I'll ADHD out, go somewhere else, come back and be like, I don't remember the controls. I don't remember what I'm doing. I lost the plots and yeah, but until dawn is the game that. In the quarry, which is the spiritual sequel, is, is a lot of fun. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 50:04

unfortunately, you won't have to worry about playing it for nine to 12 hours, because they managed to get it down to a nice hour and a half. But, yeah, it's pretty fun because they, you know, it's not the same story. They kind of transplanted the concept to this kind of time loop story, which, you know, they show in the trailers, that, like this group of friends, they end up in this weird house in the in the wilderness, and they get killed, but then they immediately come back to life. So it's also like, you know, well, I mean, not like until dawn the video game, because you can, you save, respawn. But like any tip, any other typical video game, you can say, respond, so it's kind of like that. And, yeah, no, there's a really dug it because there's such a variety of monsters and killers, like, there's a slasher, there's a witch, there's a lot of ghouls and zombies and and little bit of a spoiler, but there are when to go from the original game nice and a lot of practical effects too, which I really dug. And, yeah, no, I and Peter storm air doing what Peter Stormer does best, and being very creepy. Well, he's in

Jonathan Correia: 51:21

the games as well, so you kind of had to have him, and it wouldn't be until Don then. And also the fact that you said that there's ghouls today, you know how much we love ghouls, so,

Jacob Davidson: 51:30

well, yeah, you gotta have your goals.

Jonathan Correia: 51:32

Oh, I mean, what's the point? What's the point of doing anything if there's no goals involved,

Jacob Davidson: 51:36

exactly, but, yeah, no, I really dug it. I mean, it's very, is a very different spin on the games, and just kind of more, you know, using some plot elements and more iconic monsters and creatures from them. But I thought David F Sandberg did a good job of setting up a lot of fun scares. And again, the creature effects was outstanding. And, yeah, no, I really dug it. It's kind of a Monster Mash type movie, which, you know, we're always down for a graveyard Smash. I

James Jay Edwards: 52:11

didn't know it was David F Sandberg, that's, yeah, lights kind of lights out.

Jacob Davidson: 52:18

David S Sandberg, he directed it

James Jay Edwards: 52:20

right on cool. I was not aware of that, but I also wasn't aware it was a video game. So where have I been? You

Jonathan Correia: 52:28

would like those games, because it's one of those, like, like, you make choices and it influences it.

Jacob Davidson: 52:34

So yeah, it's more of a cinematic game. Yeah, and

Jonathan Correia: 52:37

Remy Malek is in the first one with and Hayden penitentiary. And, like, the penitentiary, I was just made fun of for mispronouncing her name because I was talking about bring it on three and how just straight up racist that movie is. It's incredible. The Bring It On franchise is great. I

James Jay Edwards: 52:56

got all the they had a deal where you get, like, all whatever, seven movies for eight bucks, so I might have to binge to bring it on. I almost

Jonathan Correia: 53:05

did that deal, but I already had the collection that came out before cheer or die on DVD. I got it from a Rite Aid for $1 and I was like, All right, I can't justify getting a digital version if I have it all on DVD.

James Jay Edwards: 53:19

I didn't have any of them I've only seen the first one, the one, the one with what's her head, Elijah Deus crew and

Jonathan Correia: 53:27

Kirsten DUNS. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 53:29

that's the only one that I've seen. That's the best one. Maybe I'll need to burn through. It's better than cheer or die.

Jonathan Correia: 53:36

Yeah, I think I had too high of expectations for Cheer or Die.

James Jay Edwards: 53:41

So let's call this one an episode here. I hope you guys all like the episodes where all we do is talk to each other, because that's what you got here, mainly because we had a lot to talk about, because we haven't. Again, apologize for missing a couple episodes. Sometimes, you know, Life finds a way, and we get busy and sick and, you know, upset with Kylie Minogue, or I should say, upset with the city of Denver sports.

Jonathan Correia: 54:10

I will never be upset with Kylie Minogue, alright, cuz even, even Jack and Diane, which I was like this, why is this a monster movie? That movie is it was still redeemed because they had a tattooed up Kylie Minogue making out with Riley Keo and like, you know, like that, that alone, just like, hey, my day.

James Jay Edwards: 54:29

Alright. Well, bottom line of today's episode, which, if you take nothing else away from it, go see Sinners on a big screen with a great sound system multiple times, yes, yes, see it as many times as possible. And let's get this into the Oscar conversation. That would be amazing. So anyway, we will, yeah, let's, let's get out of here. Our, our theme song is byRRestless Spirit. Hey, restless spirit is playing San Diego tomorrow night. Oh, shit. You gotta go. I know, actually San Diego, not la So, yeah, woo hoo. Our theme song by Restless Spirit. So go check them out. Our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go check him out. You can find us on all the socials, under Eye On Horror, or at ihorror.com which is the site we we all call home. And yeah, we'll be back hopefully in two weeks with an actual topic and more stuff to talk about, because there's always, we're past the dead point of movies coming out, and there's good ones always now. So we will see you in a couple of weeks. So for me, James, Jay Edwards,

Jacob Davidson: 55:38

I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia: 55:39

And I'm Jonathan Correia,

James Jay Edwards: 55:40

keep your Eye On Horror.