Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
Romantic Beckonings
This week, the boys are back and love is in the air as they review romantic horror titles such as Companion, Heart Eyes, Your Monster, Love Hurts, Species II, and the boys getting into what their Nosferatu beckonings would sound like (spoiler, its sadly not sexual).
The boys also review recent films such as Presence, Captain America: Brave New World, The Dead Thing, Star Trek Section 31, Strictly Confidential, David Lynch Repertory screenings, Jay talks about a bunch of cheap movies he bought, One of Them Days, and Pistol. Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!
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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of eye horror.com this is episode 142 otherwise known as season eight. Episode Two. I'm your host, James J Edwards, and with me, as always, is your other host, Jacob Davison, how you doing? Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:Doing good, just hanging tight. It's another gloomy, rainy day, which is perfectly fitting for the Valentine's Day season.
James Jay Edwards:You guys getting rain too. I'm getting a lot of rain down here. Oh yeah, no, it's raining. This is the most rain I can remember getting in a while. Um, also with us, as always, is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing Correia?
Jonathan Correia:doing great. It's, you know, I like gloomy weather. It's an excuse to wear sweatpants and sweatshirts and ponchos all day. So, like, you know, I'm, I'm sitting pretty here.
James Jay Edwards:You're not dressed as a skeleton. Oh, that's,
Jonathan Correia:that's, that's for the special occasions. You know?
James Jay Edwards:That's for meeting Dan Stevens.
Jonathan Correia:Well, the issue is, I only have one skeleton suit, and so if I wear it at home all the time, it's bound to get chili on, stains on it. And you know, it's it's hard to get that out. So, all right,
James Jay Edwards:what's been going on? You guys? I finally saw and I feel like I'm totally behind the times, even though it just came out. I saw companion. Yeah, nice. Oh my god, you guys were 100% right? This is such an amazing and here's the thing I have seen reviews that are spoiling the best twist, so don't
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, even the marketing, even the marketing, spoiled it, which I thought was insane.
James Jay Edwards:Oh, it's ridiculous. I'm like, okay, because I went into it completely blind on your guys's. I mean, I'd usually do that anyway, but you guys made it, you know, very clear to go into this blind and the twist that takes it from the first to the second act was, is the big one that's and that's the one that's being spoiled by all the markets. Like, oh god, you guys, no, I'm just so glad I got to experience it without that being spoiled. Because so much fun.
Jonathan Correia:Which is, which is really good, because the director, writer, director, has even come out and said, like, you know, I understand why they had to do that for marketing purposes and things of that nature, to let people know. Because, like, that first teaser was just so like, What the fuck is this movie? Because after we saw it at the beyond fest screening, I re watched that teaser, the one where it's just, like, from the studio that brought you the notebook, and I was like, wow, they really do show a shot from all the best parts of the movie. But without context, you have no idea what the fuck this movie is about. It's great. And we did go Lindsey and I went and saw it at an AMC theater when it finally came out, just to it's such. It's good to revisit, because I remember sitting there at the at the beyond fest screening which the director shouted out, he's like, yeah, there's never going to be another screening of this film like that, because those people literally knew absolutely nothing in the room. Was electric, and Jacob and I attest it was one of the best audiences ever.
James Jay Edwards:You know, I I had to beg for it wasn't activated by my PR agency, but it was on their schedule. So I went to the guy who handles the who handles Warner, and I said, Hey, can you get me a contact? You had a Companion link? And he said, he's like, you know, they've been telling us to let them know if people ask. So yes, I have that contact brief. And they sent it to me. And so I watched it at home, and it still had that effect. I was like, so glad I didn't know anything but the link I was given was good for five views, and I watched it twice.
Jonathan Correia:Nice, right? Because, when you because when you go back, you pick up on the things, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:yeah. That's what I wanted to see. I want to see how much of it was telegraphed. But I didn't know what I was looking for. Oh, my God, he's so good. And
Jonathan Correia:it's, it's slightly spoilerly. But the first time I watched it, I was like, Oh, Jack Quaid is going for his mom's title of rom com king, or whatever. Second viewing, I was like, nope. I was completely wrong. That first view, for that first half of that first viewing, man, like, Boy was I it was there from the beginning. Oh, my God. How did you not I remember
James Jay Edwards:you saying after you saw it, you're like, I'm just bummed that I'm not going to be able to be able to see it again for like, three months. So I was like, I'm not making that mistake. I'm watching it
Jonathan Correia:again. No, it's, it's so good, it's so funny. And, you know, I truly think that, like, Sophie Thatcher deserves awards for that performance, like, Oh yeah, and it's gonna get overlooked, you know? But because that's what happened, although I don't Well, I mean, The Substance is doing a lot of heavy lifting for the future of, like, horror nominations right now, but like, Sophie Thatcher is just a revelation, and just what she does, and she talked about some of the things that people are applauding her for, and she's like, I didn't even realize I was doing that. There's like, little moments Where she has little twitches and stuff, or, like, does little mouth. It's just, it's so good. And then Lucas Gage was just phenomenal. And it's so funny. Yeah, Companion is such it's such a fun movie.
Jacob Davidson:And always cool to see Harvey Gillen in horror stuff. Like he was good supporting caster for this. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:they were so cute together.
Jacob Davidson:Oh yeah, the Halloween, the Halloween. Love memory.
Jonathan Correia:It's so funny. You're stepping on my tail. Yeah, go see Companion. It's yeah,
James Jay Edwards:absolutely go. Go see Companion. And maybe we'll do a mini sode where we can spoil stuff. Because, oh my god, don't let anything be spoiled. And
Jacob Davidson:speaking of rom com horror, the Yeah, you know what I'm going to talk about. I know where you're going. Oh, you know where I'm going, but it's Valentine's season, so it was the perfect time to release Josh Ruben's Heart Eyes hard, which is one of the best holiday slasher movies I've seen in some time. And it was just so much fun because it does that kind of horror genre mash up so perfectly, which, you know, of course, is Michael Kennedy and Christopher Landon writing it, and because they've got it down to a T, because it's a rom com, but there's, it's a slasher movie too. Like it, like both work simultaneously. Like at the beyond fest screening I was at, Josh Ruben even said he he pitched it literally as Sleepless in Seattle meets Friday the 13 part six, Jason lives, and that's what it is.
James Jay Edwards:And the thing that makes Heart Eyes work so well is Josh Rubin understand, and the movie as a whole understands exactly what it is about both rom coms and slashers that make them so ridiculous, and it leans so heavily into it. So the movie itself is pretty ridiculous, but you are watching basically a a hallmark romance with a psycho killer. It is so nuts. And I got to tell you, Mason Gooding, I kind of have a thing for Mason. He, you know, he might be the new he might be the new Jake Gyllenhaal, James McAvoy for me,
Jacob Davidson:which I was gonna say amazing. Gooding and Olivia Holtz had such incredible chemistry as the romantic leads that that's how they were able to really pull off the rom com elements, yes, but just having this mass killer trying to kill them. And I do love the design of the killer too, like the whole stitched up mask with the glow in the dark, night vision, literal, heart eyes.
James Jay Edwards:The killer is incredible. And the killer is ruthless. I mean, this is not just because it's part rom com. This killer is brutal. It's not, you know, he doesn't pull punches and, um, and he he has, like, a little crossbow, so there's a little bit of Cupid in there.
Jacob Davidson:And he's got like, and he's got the, like, spiked machete
James Jay Edwards:Heart Eyes does not reinvent the wheel. It knows exactly what it is about rom coms and slashers that that people want to see. But the mash up is just so it does what it sets out to do, which is it's just a completely fun combination of these two genres. And there's one scene that just had me dying because Olivia Holt's friend is like talking to her and she goes, this is one of the 10 Things I Hate About You. It's like she basically strings together probably a dozen romantic comedy titles in this one paragraph of dialog that is totally in context. And it just makes you realize how ridiculously names o these movies are,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, and also, I'm already calling it that I you know, again, don't want to spoil but there was one particular kill that is certainly going to be up for Fangoria kill of the year, and it was pretty impressive. That's awesome. You know which one I'm talking about. Oh,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I need to see it. Oh
James Jay Edwards:yeah, you don't. Yeah, you Yeah. You do need to see it. This is, this is totally you'll love it. It's
Jacob Davidson:fun. Also always cool to see Devon Sawa pop up in
James Jay Edwards:saw was in it. Devon Sawa and Jordana Brewster talk about 90s teen horror. You had your Final Destination, meets The Faculty. Yeah, it is,
Jonathan Correia:I think you mean Idle Hands, meets
James Jay Edwards:The Faculty. That's, that's
Jonathan Correia:what my brain does. No, he was good in Final Destination as well. But Idle Hands, that's God's here, you know, speaking of romance comedies, yeah, we're getting romantic this episode. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:I got another one after this too. So yeah, hell yeah, did you guys?
Jonathan Correia:Did you guys see Your Monster? No, I wanted to. Though you're as in possessive. Why? Oh, you are. It's a romance. Comedy with Melissa Barrero, who's from the the recent Scream movies, and Abigail, and it's about this, this theater girl who who she has cancer, and her boyfriend breaks up with her while she's going through chemo and surgery and all that. So she's having a really rough breakup, and so she moves into her mom's house in New York during recovery, and she ends up befriending her childhood monster, like the monster that's in the closet or under the bed. And it's, it's a real cute. It's more it's definitely leans way more into romance comedy than it does horror. But it's adorable. It's it's a good modern kind of retelling of, like, Beauty and the Beast that's self aware of it. And the beast makeup is really good. But there's also these really funny bits, because he's supposed to be the monster, like in the closet or under the bed. So there's these great little moments, like, when they start, like, hanging out together all this stuff. She goes, like, she's, like, talking about, like, the breakup and going through all this shit. And then she's laying on her bed, like this, talking up to the ceiling. And then he's just under the bed, like, half out, just like, going, Ah, he sounds like a real limp dick fuck, you know? And there's some, like, really funny bits with that. And, yeah, it's, it's, I mean, if you're looking for a real cute romance comedy that has, you know, a bit of monsters, kills and stuff in it, Your Monster. It's, I think it's streaming on max right now, but, yeah, it was really good. And, you know, it's, it's a good round up to last year's monster fucker trilogy with Lisa Frankenstein and Nosferatu. You know,
James Jay Edwards:cool. Also, speaking of Valentine's Day, either you guys see, Love Hurts. No, no. It's not really Valentines, but they're billing it as Valentines. And it's not really horror, it's like an action comedy, but it has Ke Huy Quan from Everything Everywhere All at Once, and and the Indiana Jones movies, and also Ariana DeBose is in it. And the commercials are hilarious because it's Oscar winner, Ke Huy Quan, Oscar winner Ariana DeBose, Super Bowl champion Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch, he plays one of the the whole thing is like, Ke Huy Quan is a he's a realtor who is trying to leave his professional assassin life behind, and but it's catching up to him again. And Marshawn Lynch plays one of the, one of the hit men that are kind of after him, I guess my issue. It's only 83 minutes long, and you'll never hear me say this. Never hear me say this. But I think it needs to be longer, because there's the setup is all done through it kind of drops you right into the action, and the setup is kind of done through exposition and flashbacks. And I think that they could have given a little more of that. Plus there are so many colorful characters, like Marshawn Lynch's character is one of them, but there's also another who's this hit man who's also like a poet. There are just so many colorful characters, and I think they could do more with and they don't. But as far as an action movie, it's some of the best fight choreography I've seen in a very long time, a very long time like it is, it's sort of kung fu movie, but it's, it's a lot of the director is Jonathan Eusebio, and they've done stunts for, you know, stunt actually, stunts for the Fall Guys, stunts for John Wick. I mean, it's, you know, Violent Night, Birds of Prey. I mean, it stunts for, like, you know, Marvel movies, Black Panther, Dead Pool 2. So, um, it looks like they're from the same from the same school as, as, like, the Bullet Train type of a thing. And Ke Huy Quan
Jonathan Correia:also was a stunt coordinator and stunt man for years. He famously was the coordinator on the original X-Men movie, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:you can, you can tell that he is, that he's got some martial arts training and some stunt work too, because he's well, even in everything, Everything Everywhere All At Once. That's hard to say, even in that he got the he got the flex his muscles a little
Jacob Davidson:Oh yeah, no, he got some good fights in there. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:It is as an action movie. It's awesome as a story, I kind of wanted a little more. But Love Hurts is, I mean, there's always enough time for Love Hurts because it is, you know, it's 83 minutes. Oh, wow, that's that's pretty lean. And like I said, you know, you'll never hear me say that. But I wanted a little more of it. I wanted about 20 more minutes of exposition and fleshing out some of the fun characters. Another
Jonathan Correia:recent film that came out. I don't know, did you guys see Steven Soderbergh Presence?
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, I wish I just
Jonathan Correia:saw it yesterday. Ooh. So no spoiling for Jay. Yeah, they
James Jay Edwards:didn't screen it for us, which is weird, because Neon is kind of weird about that. But, um, but yeah, we didn't get a screening, and I just haven't had a chance. You may have noticed. That we skipped an episode. We I haven't had a chance to go to a theater because I've been doing 15 hours a day of curling. So, yeah, talk to me about curling Correia
Jonathan Correia:after, after we're done recording happy to happy
Jacob Davidson:to look. We should write a horror movie about curling, Hearts Eyes, but curling, hey,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, Hardy, you stab with a broom and throw a stone. Yeah? Well, I mean, there
Jonathan Correia:was that hockey scene in running scared, where came out hard with that. I'll have to add that to the list. Also
Jacob Davidson:that scene in Santa's Slay, where Goldberg, as the satanic Santa, does hell curling.
Jonathan Correia:That's right, yeah. Oh man. Santa's Slay has one of the greatest openings ever, where it's just yeah, it's just Santa Claus crashing a dinner that has, what is it? Fran Drescher, James con, James con, Chris Catan, Fran drasher, and just like slaughters everybody, just like comes through, he lights Fran drescher's hair on fire, which is sacrificial in my eyes. But anyways, Presence, yes, we ADHD hard there. Steven Soderbergh's Haunted Ghost House story, and I loved it. The whole movie is from the perspective of the presence, and you get to see this family that's like any good ghost or haunted house story. The main story is a broken family or a broken individual. And this family is pretty fucking broken, and there's some really interesting, cool things the camera work in. It is obviously Soderberg just going fucking nuts and just being like, I'm this presence, and now you are seeing it from my perspective. So there's a lot of really cool bits where, like people are just out, like they're sitting on the porch, but the presence can't go outside, so it's watching through the windows. It's very voyeuristic. And great performances, like Lucy Liu is just, you never know what's going on with her. It's, it's, yeah, it's great, yeah.
Jacob Davidson:And I do love the effects with because the ghost sometimes telekinetically lifts objects or throw stuff around, and it looks very seamless, like I can, I can't really tell the effects of it. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:It's really well done. If you're looking for, like, jump scares, or like that type of spooky you're going to be disappointed, because it's not that type of movie. It is at the at its core, a family drama that just happens to involve this ghost and the camera work, if anything, is like the the creepiest part of it, because you're you're definitely, by a certain point, going, what is their intentions? Does it know what its intentions is? It's really interesting. Highly
Jacob Davidson:recommend, although I do still qualified as a horror movie, because there's a lot more to the plot, and as things unfold, it does get pretty disturbing.
Jonathan Correia:Oh yeah, no. I'm trying to not spoil anything. I will say though, as a millennial watching it, seeing a youngish family move into like, an older house where there's, like, a lot of exposed brick and wood and stuff. I'm like, I swear to God if you paint over that fucking fireplace. So, and that's that's another thing for the millennials out there. There's so many great like moving from room to room, shots of this beautiful old house so you get to have that house porn that you watch at 3am touring Zillow, because you will never be able to afford a house, trust me right there with you, bud. But yeah, presence absolutely phenomenal. Go check it out in theaters, please. We need more spooky, spooky house. Oh yes,
Jacob Davidson:on the repertory side of things. Last night, I went to a 35 millimeter screening of Peter Madax Species II. Oh, you guys seen that?
Jonathan Correia:Not the second one? No, because that, that blu ray for scream factor, was out of print for the longest fucking time.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, it was part of the one of those weird Wednesdays screens at Alamo where, you know, they go for obscurity. And this is one of those movies that I caught a lot on the Sci Fi Channel, so I thought it'd be fun to revisit. And it is also kind of their anti Valentines movie. But also, I'm a big fan of the original Species as well. So yeah, it was a fun time. And yeah, they played an original 35 million print and yeah, this movie is camp and goopy and wacky as hell, because, yeah, they clone the original Alien, still Natasha Hendrich from the original movie. And now there's a guy, like this astronaut who went to Mars and got infected with alien DNA. So now there's basically a male version of the alien from species, and they bring back Michael Madsen. And there's some really crazy scenes, and like a lot of psychic stuff, between Natasha Hendrich and the alien astronaut guy and, oh yeah, lots of gore. And also the alien, whenever he impregnates someone, they. Immediately become pregnant, and basically chest burst alien babies. So they're just really going for it and but yeah, now re watching it. Now they they definitely knew Peter madak, definitely knew what kind of movie he was making. And they play for for ridiculous, like, there's a scene where Michael Madson chases the alien through a grocery store, and since he's an asteroid, he has his own cereal box. It's, it's pretty wacky, but isn't as horny as the original. That's Oh yeah, no. It's horny as hell, like Natasha Henstridge and see, oh yeah, George Jon. Jon, I think, yeah, the basically the male alien and the female alien are psychically connected, so like Natasha Hendrich literally goes into heat and is so horny she can rip a steel door off so that she can try to get to her mate.
Jonathan Correia:So on a scale, from Babygirl to Love Lies Bleeding. How horny is it?
Jacob Davidson:That's it's pretty close to Love Lies Bleeding. It's pretty horny. Those are both very
James Jay Edwards:horny mood. I was gonna say, what's that? That scale is from like 9.5 to nine points. Listen,
Jacob Davidson:listen, same general area.
Jonathan Correia:If it's not, if it's not somewhere between those two movies, I don't consider it horny, like, that's not horny enough, like you might scale, that's my scale, unless there's a monster fucking scene in it, then it's, then it's not
Jacob Davidson:that. Oh, there's lots of monster fucking. Ah, okay. We're
Jonathan Correia:getting romantic with the monster fucking this episode. Love it. Another
James Jay Edwards:thing that I saw, which is actually a huge thing coming out this week, I saw Captain America: Brave New World.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, how was that? And, I
James Jay Edwards:mean, this is the first movie since probably Endgame, that actually feels like a Marvel movie, you know, because they've been doing like, like Shang Chi and Black Widow and, you know, the Eternals and these movies, I didn't mind. I mean, The Marvels actually liked in like, a crazy B movie, kind of a way, but they didn't feel like Marvel movies to me. You know, they they didn't feel like they had the same, the same universe. But this one does, and it is its Falcon is now Captain America, and there's a new Falcon, and there's a new Black Widow, and there's a new Hulk, which is Red Hulk, yeah, you know, it carries on the tradition it is. It's got all of the fights and all of the it's got all of the stuff that you expect from a Marvel movie. You know, I mean it, it's not as good as any of the pre Endgame ones, but it's the best one since then. Take that, for what it's worth, how
Jonathan Correia:it's a like, do they give a lot of screen time to Tim Blake Nelson? Because that's that's been my I'm a huge defender of the Incredible Hulk movie. I that was one of my favorite of the Phase One movies, but mainly because I'm a huge fan of the TV show, and there was a lot of homages and like stuff done with that, the Edward Norton one, but it ends with the teas of Tim Blake Nielsen becoming the leader. And so does he? We know he's in this one, so he's
James Jay Edwards:the primary villain.
Jonathan Correia:Thank you. That's all I needed. It's, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:it's not Red Hulk. Red Hulk is not the primary villain. He's a pawn, yeah, in, yeah. So yeah, it, but yeah, he's, he's, he's in it quite a bit. You'll, you won't be disappointed. It's kind of a surprise, because it's almost more of a sequel to that Edward Norton Hulk movie than it is to Captain America. Yeah, that to civil war, or any of the, you know, the Avengers movies, but like Harrison Ford plays, he's now the president. And, you know, the very beginning of the movie is him accepting, you know, is him, you know, taking office or winning the election. So it's not really a spoiler, but it's kind of present in there's a lot of tension between the United States and allies like Japan and France that you're like, is this where we're going? You know, it's like, it's almost like they're, they're, you know, kind of trying to be subtle about a few things that that are happening today. It's not woke Captain America though.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, people are gonna claim it is. They're gonna be like, Oh, that Red Rock might as well be horror. It's just like, Will. It's not gonna be that deep, yeah, but it's gonna be fun. I mean, come on, it's a Marvel movie. I'm just excited again. We're getting incredible hulk sequel, even if it is in the mask of a Captain America sequel. So I'm happy
James Jay Edwards:there's more to it than just Tim Blake Nelson being in it, you know, it is. It's a Hulk movie, okay,
Jonathan Correia:no, I'm, I'm stoked. I mean, again, you had to be at leader. You had to be a Red Hulk. I loved, I loved that run of Red Hulk after the Hulk supposedly died, you know, as they do in the comics all the time, like, Oh, God, oh, wait, no, there's a red one. I thought that was great. The second they introduced General Ross in the in the Incredible Hulk, I was like, Oh, we better get Red Hulk at some point. And that day has finally come, another recent film that I saw. Did you guys see Get Away yet?
Jacob Davidson:No, I want to, because I love Nick Frost. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:It just hits. Shudder not too long ago, I think it's one of the three horror projects Nick Frost did last year. Yeah, because
Jacob Davidson:it was this, was it the crazy family, Krazy House, Krazy House, yeah. And there was one other one, the Black
Jonathan Correia:Cab, I think it is, yeah, yeah. So this one, it's the same director as Krazy House. So they did two movies together that came out last year, but Nick Frost wrote this one. And Get Away is about this fan, this British family that goes to Sweden, to the small island that has this Day of Remembrance thing, kind of remembering this event that happened 200 years ago where the island was quarantined for because of disease, and stayed that way for so long that people ended up eating each other. And so they call it Karatan, like quarantine, but Swedish, and I know it's Karatan because they say Karatan on so fucking much in the movie. I want to avoid spoilers with it. But get away is a weird fucking movie. I had so much fun with it as a fan of, like, Danish, Swedish comedies from that region and how weird they are. Like I was sitting there the whole time going, damn, I need to watch men and chicken again after this. But it is. It's a lot of fun. It's extremely weird. Some of the there's like this, there's a lot of little weird things with the dialog, like Nick Frost and his wife, who's played by angsley B, who's the Irish comedian. They weirdly, just like, keep going, Okay, daddy, Okay, mommy. And it's just like, why are you saying it like that? There's so many bits where you're just like, why are you saying it like that? And as it goes on, you know, it gets into like, some very like, right off the bat, like, folk horrory territory. And there's like, eight harbingers in the beginning of the movie. Like, that's the kind of comedy it is, where it's like, oh yeah, here's the guy who's going to tell you not to go to the island now, here's five more. And it just like, it's, it's a lot of fun. It's, it's a it's an easy watch, but, yeah, I recommend it, and I I still need to. I don't know when they're going to release Krazy House over here, because I can't find it anywhere, but I want to see their other project together, because I had a lot of fun with Get Away now on shudder,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, I'm very excited for the Krazy House. Also, speaking of shudder, I actually went to a pre screening of a new release that's coming out this week, The Dead Thing, the feature debut from Elric Kane, and it was very interesting. Is very much kind of a dread horror, just very muted, but, I mean, in a good way, is basically about this woman who lives in LA, and she's just kind of going from hook up to hook up through these dating apps and and she finally meets a guy that she actually loves. But as with usual, with these types of horror romances, there's a lot more to it than that, and things do not go well. It was a lot of fun. It was kind of more low budget horror, but they really work with the kind of resource they had. And it was shot in LA, which I feel was very rare these days, especially for more low budget horror. I was lucky enough to see it at the new Beverly last week on a 35 millimeter print, which I think really added to it. Yeah, again, it's one of those things where I can't talk about it too much about spoiling, except it is the feel one of the feel bad romance, horror of the season. So I would highly recommend it,
Jonathan Correia:another new release that came out. And I feel like this is, like, the only time it's appropriate for me to talk about Star Trek. So I'm going to take it the Michelle Yeoh, really centered film, Star Trek Section 31 came out on Paramount plus. And when I tell you, it was the hardest thing for me to not watch it at midnight when it came out, because I had work the next day, and also wanted to watch it with Lindsey, I had to wait till the next evening. It was, it was a really hard fight. And let me tell you, you guys know me, I don't like saying bad things about things, because everything work. Everyone works so hard on films, but Section 31 just really felt like a misfire. It's if you don't know Star Trek lore, Section 31 which came out of Deep Space Nine, is the CIA of Starfleet, but they're super unknown. They're the ones that do that, get their hands dirty so that Starfleet can be the shining example of post scarcity society and in Deep Space Nine, they're terrifying, because it's like, first and foremost admirals don't know about this thing. There's they have, like, No, there's no one over. There's no oversight. So, like, they torture. They. They kidnap they do things, and it's like, holy shit. This is supposed to be. It further expands upon themes that were in next gen. And they continue it in enterprise, really. And then, of course, they make lots of jokes of it in lower decks, but they take this terrifying thing and they make a Suicide Squad movie out of it. And I don't mean the James Gunn The Suicide Squad. I'm talking David Ayer where, like, the comedy is just kind of, like not really fitting. It's band together. I thought at the very least that they would be able to give Michelle Yeoh because her character, Georgiou is very is like the best thing to come out of Discovery. And she gives, she gives cunt constantly in that show, and I love it, and they don't really give her that opportunity too much in this movie, I thought there would at least be that one redeeming thing. She kind of had a bigger moment in Wicked than she does in Section 31 but at the end of the day, like, there's just, like, a lot of things with it, where it's just, like, I don't know, like at the very end of the movie, they make reference to a very specific episode of next generation where, where they go, Oh, our next missions on this planet. And if you're a next gen fan, you know that's that. That's a planet that's known as, like, a rape world, where, like, they have gangs of, like, people marauding across the land and, like, that was a very dark storyline, and the movie ends with a joke about it, like they made a yo mama joke about it, like, that's where I'm kind of like, I understand what they were trying to do, trying to do something that's like, not Super Star Treky, to kind of appeal to others, but then, like, the lore they're using to do it just wasn't really fitting. And like, altogether, it even sets it up like a TV pilot movie. And yeah, I was, I was very disappointed.
James Jay Edwards:So it's like, at the end of, was it at the end of the conjuring, when they're all, well, we have this new case. We're going, it's in Amityville,
Jonathan Correia:yeah? But with a rape planet, yeah? No, yeah. It's like, a Oh, the name of the planet is Turkana four. They they go, they make they go, oh yeah. And our next mission on Turkana four, it's like, Oh, more like your mama four. And I'm like, You did not just make a yo mama joke out of Turkana Four, okay, that's very dark episode, like,
James Jay Edwards:so that's, that's even worse, yeah, yeah,
Jacob Davidson:no. And I mean, honestly, I hadn't watched it because I had heard so much negative response to it, like I'm in some, you know, just says some meme groups on Facebook, like, my favorite is Trexsons, which is like they mash up Simpsons and Star Trek jokes. And there have been so many jokes about how bad Section 31 was. And just how it really apparently missed the mark. And, like, there were a lot of poochie jokes compared to it, to kind of put in that perspective. But also the so the big problem was, is that, apparently it was originally supposed to be a series, but then Michelle Yeohs career really got boosted. So they took the footage and tried to make it into a movie. And that sounds like it just did not match.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, and then I'm the biggest defender of of when it comes to, like, trek, especially the movies like I even recently watching five. I'm like, five is actually a good movie. I'm gonna say it. I didn't think Shatner did a bad job with Star Trek five, Into Darkness I don't defend that much, because another time it seems like after Deep Space Nine, no one knows that. What the fuck to do with Section 31 so it's like, just leave it alone. But it's, yeah, it's not only just like not handling that, right, but the editing is really weird and chaotic and doesn't sit at all if you really thought that, like, the Abrams Trek movies didn't have enough Lens Flare. Well, then Section 31's for you, they got fucking lens flares up the wazoo. It's just, it's just weird, like, it, it's one of those things where it's, like, it's trying to have high fun energy, and it's not landing and like, again, I was one of those people for the last year was going, like, no, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna at least be fun, guys. It's gonna be very different, but it's gonna be fun. And I'm sitting there being like, I don't have much to defend it. I'm sorry, but I'm still gonna get the blu ray, because, you know, kind of complete the collection
James Jay Edwards:you're a completist. Have you guys seen this other thing I saw, and it's not good, but there's something I want to talk about. About It, this movie called Strictly Confidential that came out last year. Don't know that one? Okay, this is, it's more like a kind of a murder mystery kind of a thing, um, without the murder though. But that's a little bit of a spoiler, but it is basically this, this girl dies, and all of her friends come back to, you know, on the the anniversary of her death, come back to, like, hang out at her house, because she was real close with her with they were all real close with her mom and all this other stuff. And it is. It's not good. It is. It's a pretty weak mystery, and it feels. Like a Lifetime movie, but Elizabeth Hurley is in it. She plays the mom. Well, I do too. Don't, don't, don't, get me wrong. Great
Jonathan Correia:devil in Bedazzled. No,
James Jay Edwards:hold that true, though true. It is directed by her son, Damien Hurley. And here is the thing, this has the most sexualized gaze on Elizabeth Hurley. And when you think that it's her son giving this gaze, it just makes you feel dirty. And the thing is, it's not just like how she's dressed or anything. There are like lesbian love scenes with Elizabeth Hurley that her son is having to direct her in. And I'm like, it is. It's really creepy when you think that her son is okay. Now, do this. Now do this.
Jonathan Correia:I'm still reeling from the fact that her son's name is Damien, yeah, that's, yeah,
Jacob Davidson:my ADHD play the devil, and now she's got a son named Damien. Okay, no,
Jonathan Correia:she leaned to that hard. I mean, I love the bedazzled movies so much. That's weird, though I'm processing what you just said. And, huh? I mean, he wasn't the camera operator, right? No,
James Jay Edwards:but it's but, yeah. I mean, it's really weird. Yeah, I don't know it, but it's just weird because the whole gaze, I mean, if you see it, you'll know. And the reason I watched it, it was one of those, like, 399 fanfics deals where I was like, I need something else here. I love Elizabeth Hurley, let's go for this. And it was only when I noticed I'm old Damian. Hurley, hmm, you know, I wonder, and I saw and but yeah, she's really sexualized in it. And don't get me wrong, this is Elizabeth Hurley, so how are you going to put her in her movie and not sexualize her? I mean, she's hot, but this is her son. It's really, really kind of, I don't know, I needed a shower. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:that does sound kind of weird. Well, on my end, in terms of the repertory screenings, I've been seeing a lot of David Lynch movies in tribute to his passing, the American Cinemateque in particular done a lot of them, I let's see. I saw Eracserhead, Wild at Heart, Mulholland Drive, Fire Walk with Me. And particularly of interest to me was I attended a shorts block, which included several of his earlier short films. And one that really struck me was this, uh, shorty did for the Lumiere anniversary back in 95 where he actually shot with an original Lumiere camera. And it was, it was called premonition following an evil deed. It's only one minute long. It's on YouTube, and it's one of the most nightmarish things I have ever seen. It was, it was, it was brilliant. Um, oh, also saw Blue Velvet, but yeah, no, it's, I do feel watching all those movies back to back to back like this, and in this way, has had an effect on me. And just, and also just kind of seeing a lot of the recurring themes and styles that he has throughout From his earliest films to his latest. And as always, it played great with crowd. Oh, and also, I saw a Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar theatrically. Uh, that movie rules, you
Jonathan Correia:know, I was planning on going to that screening, and then I ended up having to do a dinner meeting, and Jacob text me. He's like, I'm in the theater. Where are you? We didn't even discuss going to see that together. He just knew, like, if there was a screening of Barb and star, that I should be at it, and
Jacob Davidson:I sensed your presence.
Jonathan Correia:It was, it was worth being. It was worth missing it. I could tell you, it was a really good dinner meeting, but boy was I think I did in the middle of it, just Astro project myself into into the Egyptian and just kind of like floated above everyone, just being, just for, like, at least a few of those musical numbers I was there for the seagull song,
Jacob Davidson:at least, yeah, you were there. Your spiritual cool, lots, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:this, this, this happened in reverse, when I felt a strong need to watch The Guyver one day. And it was, and it very much so was Jacob Nosferatuing me just beckoning watch The Guyver, or
Unknown:watch the grave, or to, do
James Jay Edwards:you know, speaking of that, I actually had a moment like that too with Jacob beckoning me. But it was when Frankie Freako, oh yeah, it was on sale, on voodoo and on the call, you know what, if I don't buy this. So, yeah, I got to watch, and that was pretty much what I expected, just like mad, those little puppets, yes. And the thing is, we, you know, we're, we're talking about, um, you know, feeling, feeling bad for, like, rock. Raccoon or feeling sad about the headless corpse in Street Trash. There is a moment in Frankie Freako where I'm like, no, no, this guy can't die.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no. It's funny. I actually had some friends over, and we did a double feature of Hundreds of Beavers and Frankie Freako, my two favorite comedies last year, such a Jacob double feature. It's me. It's purely me, yeah, and yeah. Also my the theme being that they're both basically live action cartoons. But, you know, I still love Frankie Freako and, you know, and re watching it. I do really love Connor Sweeney's performance, being this, just the ultimate milquetoast guy. And also Adam Brooks just being his like really sleazy boss, Mr. Beakler, after Jon Carl Bucha from the original ghoulies, who just keeps telling me, Hey, why aren't you at the office writing those documents? And then he gets covered in glue, and he's just in glue for the rest of the movie, but he says he's okay, even while the other freakos are just running around them. I just
Jonathan Correia:love how we just universally agreed that Jacob does Nosferatu beckoning, but it's not sexual at all. It's just him getting us to watch movies.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, that's my power. I get. I spiritually force people to watch the crazy ass movies that I love, you
Jonathan Correia:need to watch the Mandys
Jacob Davidson:of beavers. Beavers, you gotta, you
Jonathan Correia:gotta roll the Rs. Beavers,
Jacob Davidson:I have trouble rolling my Rs. Hundreds of beaver Damn it. We'll work on it. We'll work on it. I'll never be a nose.
Unknown:Oh, I'll
Jonathan Correia:never be a Nosferatu
Jacob Davidson:I can't roll my R's. I can't be a vampire.
Jonathan Correia:Well, that's why you got to be a Vourdalak, you know, which? Oh, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:I gotta watch that one. Yeah. So good. I, I, I actually did that was, that was a Correia beckoning me. Yeah, I did see word a lot. You were right that it's like, is it actually a marionette? It is, yeah, it is so uncanny. Yeah, you have to see the word lock, Jacob. It is, oh my God. It is, like, it's weird. It's just so UNC, like, the villain is literally a puppet.
Jonathan Correia:But you, you, you believe it like, yeah, it's not. You're not sitting there going, it's a puppet. You're saying they're going, this is on an uncanny This is an unnatural being. This does this should not exist in nature. This thing, yep. And here it is talking at me, and I don't like it, but it's also so fun. It's such a cut. Yeah, I love how Jacob's beckoning is like Frankie Freako guy, very me. I'm going Val de la. It's so clunky. And you watch the 20 movie guys like, that's my beckoning,
James Jay Edwards:and mine is like, gawk. Elizabeth Hurley,
Jonathan Correia:don't think about the sun directing her and that lesbian scene
James Jay Edwards:it's not creepy if it's not her son.
Jacob Davidson:Look, we all have our different powers. But seriously, Vourdalak. It's on shudder. I will watch it. I
James Jay Edwards:there was this kind of weird sale on voodoo, like, a month ago, where they were selling like, all these really bad movies for cheap. So one of them was, you got both coffin movies for like five bucks.
Jacob Davidson:Have you guys seen these coffin
Jonathan Correia:too? Yeah, see them in the sales. But I'm like,
James Jay Edwards:Ah, well, yeah, the big turn off is the first one has Kevin Sorbo in it. So, but, you know, don't hold that against it. These movies, they're not good, but they're kind of like, they're kind of like the Saw movies where, like, there's, it's, it's like someone's in this trap, and it's sort of like a cross between Buried and Saw. And, you know, they're, they're nice and short, so that that's, it's a merciful thing, because they're not good, but they're interesting enough, I guess. But another one that I got on one of these, like cheap sales. Have you guys seen that movie? Karen from a few years ago, but I heard about, I think it's Taryn Manning from Orange is the New Black? Yeah. This movie is so on the nose, so on the nose, about what it is, because it's like this. It's what you would think it is. There's a black family that moves into this affluent suburb, and their neighbor is Karen and and she makes their life miserable by being a Karen. It's exactly what you think it is. You know, she'll like make fake police calls on them, and, you know, it's, it was another one, it was like three bucks, or it was, it was like three movies for like eight bucks. I'm like, that's about, right? It's about worth the two something I paid.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, it was a, it was a b e t, original movie. I was like, wasn't it a made for TV movie? I wasn't really b e t, yeah. I was thinking it was either lifetime or B E T. That's why I wanted to see because sometimes those movies are unhinged.
James Jay Edwards:This is unhinged. And the thing is, it's you can it. I mean, actually does make sense, because the all of the black characters are the ones are, like, the voice of reason and like, they'll call her out on her shit, and then she just goes even more and more crazy. Man. This is like, I mean, it really doesn't make Karen's look good, which, I mean, there's not really a way that you can make Karens look good. But this one is, it's pretty on the nose, though, about what it's trying to do on a scale
Jonathan Correia:of of, on a scale of what What Happened to Baby Jane and and the front room in the front room, yeah, there we go, on a scale of What Happened to Baby Jane and The Front Room, like, how much into hagsploitation Is Taylor Manning's character. It's,
James Jay Edwards:it's closer to the front room, but she's not really so haggy as she is just, you know, you just want to slap her, you know, but she but, but it's closer to the front room, because the racial thing is there, you know.
Jonathan Correia:But she doesn't shit herself. It's on max. It's so good. Just Oh, the
James Jay Edwards:front room is, I'll
Jacob Davidson:get around to it. You haven't seen that. Oh, pay special
James Jay Edwards:attention to the score, the score from the front room. I'm waiting for A24 to have that record.
Jonathan Correia:Jacob, watch The Front Room. Katheryn Hunters is cunty.
Jacob Davidson:okay.
James Jay Edwards:I think all the other really bad movies that I that I saw, aren't worth mentioning, movies like with names like screwdriver and the retreat, and it's like, do I even remember what these are about. If they, you know,
Jonathan Correia:no, I will say it's, it's not horror, it's straight up comedy, but it needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
Jacob Davidson:One of those days, yes, oh, I knew you were gonna say that, yeah. One of them days, one of them
Jonathan Correia:days, one of them days, produced by Issa Lopez with Keke Palmer and SZA It's, it's so good. I mean, growing up the Friday movies, barber shop movies, these slice of life films that take place in in the city. Ours were some of my favorites. I revisited the barber shop movies recently. Beauty Shop is is so good. Whoever trash talks beauty shop. I will meet you out back. But, yeah, it's one of them days. It's just so funny. Keke Palmer is always amazing, but SZA steals that fucking movie. She is so funny in it.
Jacob Davidson:And, yeah, she is very chaotic. And it's fun, man.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, it was just so refreshing, just having a slice of life comedy again. And it's really sad that we don't get more of those where it's just two characters on like crazy and everyday adventure, and
Jacob Davidson:it's one of the and it is literally a day. It just takes place over the course of day. And there. I love it. There's a time where it's like time until rents do Yeah, and they just going from one misadventure for another to another, desperately trying to get the money? Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:because it's two friends trying to get money to pay rent after one of their boyfriends stole all their money. And there's a really great part where they go to a payday loan place, and Kat Williams plays a homeless man outside, and before they even, his name is Lucky, yeah, his name is Lucky. And he's like, don't do it. Go do it. And like, as someone who used to work in debt relief, yeah? And as, like, someone who worked, used to work in debt relief, like, I'm that's all I shout when I see people going into payday loans, it's like, no, don't do it. And he says exactly what I would say, if you don't have the money this week, you're not gonna have it next week. That's and they're like, why do you know this? He's like, I got eight loads through them, you know, but I gave up everything, and I'm free now. I'm freer than you. It's, it's, yeah, it's really
Jacob Davidson:funny. Yeah, no. And it is one of those things where it's almost like After Hours, where you just, it's just one situation after another, and it gets more and more ridiculous, but it's just so funny. And, yeah, the and the cast works so well off each other. And, I mean, it's kind of a horror movie, because we're all, I mean, just if you have to pay rent, that's scary, yeah,
Jonathan Correia:yeah, the real villians are the landlords. Yes, actually, that's part of the movie. But Dead Kennedys gave us a solution to that. So, you know, yeah, After Hours or Into the Night. I just watched into the night for the first time recently, because, you know, it was there had a little bit of a stance on why I wouldn't watch that movie, but I watched it, I was surprised on how much I liked it, because I really wanted to hate that movie. It being the post Twilight Zone John Landis movie. But, yeah, but hey, man, you haven't you throw in a Jim Henson cameo and you got me, but also the mute the music. The score was done with BB King. He not only did the theme songs, but like they would score the movie, and then BB would do guitar over it, and the scores of. Amazing. This is the main reason why I wanted to watch it. And the music video for it has Michelle Pfeiffer in like a blue blade, blue glammed up blazer, playing saxophone, which I was like, I didn't think Michelle Pfeiffer could serve more cunt than she did in Batman Returns, but her in a blue blazer playing saxophone. Yeah, that she did Damn I know, with BB King, come on, guys. Alright. Well,
James Jay Edwards:believe it or not, we did have a topic planned for this week, but we called Omaha in the middle, and we just decided to give you guys a catch up episode so you like, hope you liked that. One more thing to talk about before we split, though, yeah, I did watch on Correia's recommendation pistol that Sex Pistols mini series. Oh, yeah. What'd you think that ruled? That was good, right? That was awesome. And the thing is, what it made me kind of, it made me kind of feel bad for Chrissy Hind, because she was around, I knew that she was around the pistols in the clash, but, um, she just kept getting dissed by them. And I'm, you know, and eventually she outlasted them, you know, she's, you know, got her own thing. But the girl who plays Chrissy Hein Sidney Chandler, who is Kyle Chandler's daughter from Friday Night Lights and one of the Godzilla movies, so kind of a Nepo baby, but she's, like, she was awesome. She's an awesome Chrissy Hyde. But, um, the guy that they got to play, Johnny Rotten, is perfect. Oh,
Jonathan Correia:perfect. That introduction. Did I not tell you that was, like the perfect introduction for Johnny Rotten, like he's a horror villain.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, he's well, but the thing is, his name's Anson Boone, the the actor, and he is the perfect Jon. And the funny thing is, he becomes the voice of reason by the end. And you're like, wait a minute, this dude who they they call him rotten because of his breath in his teeth. And he's the guy who's sitting there, you know, telling them, you know, he's telling Steve Jones what, you know, what's what. And I always thought Steve Jones was the most sensible guy in the pistols, but this kind of changed my mind. Well,
Jonathan Correia:it's, again, it's different. Times different, you know, things going on and like, I think it's, I haven't read Steve Jones's book since high school, so I can't really attest to how accurate it is historically, but I do think they do a good job of, kind of like giving everyone that opportunity to be voice of reason, but also, like showcase, like no one's really the villain, just like everyone kind of has a moment and it all but, but it all accumulates. And I am really glad that they do go into, like the American tour and like the same visions being brought up and all that stuff, and
James Jay Edwards:the American tour, that's where they broke up. I mean, the timeline is pretty solid. It goes from the formation of the band to the breakup, which was only like two years. I mean, the Sex Pistols were I mean, they made one record, and it's probably the most, arguably the most influential punk rock record. You could say the first Ramones or the first clash. But never mind, the bullocks is arguably, I mean, for a band that only did that record, yeah. I mean, come on, there are other Sex Pistols records out there, but they're comply. They just keep changing the order of the songs. And, you know,
Jonathan Correia:one could argue the soundtrack to the great rock and roll Swindle. Well,
James Jay Edwards:it's exactly kind of great. It's the Rock and Roll Swindle. There they, you know. And also, there's a couple of live records, but, I mean, yeah, there's, there's one pistols record, but that's the other thing. I mean, the music for this is incredible. I mean, just, and it's funny, because there's one scene where they're showing, they're showing Steve Jones and Glenn Matlock working out, I think it's Anarchy in the UK and and he's shown him the chords, and he's and Matlock, who's a musician, he's like, oh, and then the diminished fifth, and then you've got the minor, and then Steve Jones, like, no see, play it like a sex pistol. That was like, the best one, play it like a sex pistol. So
Jonathan Correia:good. But also the bodies episode that was, oh, where they actually, because that supposedly happened, is that they actually did meet a girl who was walking around, Pauline, yeah, with with something in her purse. And it was like, once you they reveal what's in the purse. It's like, Oh, fuck. And like, yeah,
James Jay Edwards:yep. So anyway, pistol, I got it. They pulled it from Hulu, but I got it. It was on one of those fanfics deals where you get the whole mini series. And it was like, 499 and I'm like, Okay, I'm in for this. Because, on your recommendation, I'm like, I'm in. But anyway, pistol, very Danny Boyle project too. You know, it's funny because you said it was a very Danny Boyle project. I didn't realize was actually a Danny Boyle probably at the end of the first episode. It's all directed by Danny Boy I'm like, Oh, it wasn't just a clever analogy. This is actually a Danny Boyle. No, I think he directed the whole thing. Yeah, I don't know. I know he created the series, but, yeah. That was funny, but
Jonathan Correia:like his visual style and marks are just like all over that series and and Maisie God, what's name from Game of Thrones, Maisie Williams also was phenomenal as one of the models that worked at the sex shop for Vivienne Westwood, which I liked, how that show showed how much like Vivienne Westwood was, like, pretty fucked over, because she created the whole style that was UK punk. You know, she
James Jay Edwards:also kind of became the voice of reason, too, in Malcolm's ear. Yeah, you know, it's like, it's like Steve Jones had Johnny Rotten as his voice of reason, and Malcolm had Vivian as her Yeah? So it was, it's cool. If you ever wonder what went on behind the scenes, I think it's pretty I mean, I know the timeline is correct. They may have exaggerated some stuff, but yeah, it just made me feel bad for for Chrissy Hind, yeah, you know, hey, things worked out well for her in the end. And it's
Jonathan Correia:also one of the few sex pistol projects that does not portray Nancy's spergin as as, just like the Antichrist. You know,
James Jay Edwards:it's weird, because it all it makes, it makes Sid look like the bad guy in that because, like, he wanted to, they were totally co dependent. And like, like the part where they're playing on the boat and he sees her on the shores, Nancy, Nah, you know it's like, is he gonna swim across? I don't know, all right. Well, let's get out of here. We'll have a topic for you, or maybe an interview. I don't know what's coming up next. Yes, we're cooking up something. We have interviews in the queue, but we also have a topic on online for you. So yeah, we'll see. But for this time. Hope you enjoyed our little catch up. And this is the real Season Two premiere, because we had the the interview that we couldn't pass that Mary Beth was awesome. That was awesome interview. Oh yeah, yeah, but it was kind of a weird season premiere. But we'll, we'll catch you guys in a couple weeks. Our theme song is by Restless Spirits, so go give them a listen. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher, so go give him a like and check us out on all the socials except one, as Eye On Horror and at ihorror.com which is the site we all call home, and we'll be back in a couple weeks. So for me, James J Edwards,
Jacob Davidson:I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia:And I'm Jonathan Correia.
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