Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
Kongs, Sasquatches, Monkey Men, Oh My!
After a short break, the boys return after a packed month to review Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, The First Omen, Godzilla X Kong, Abigail, Chucky Season 3.5, Civil War, Monkey Man, Boy Kills World, Sasquatch Sunset, the new Road House, and Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare!
Between reviews, Jay discovers the awesomeness of Hundreds of Beavers, Correia continues to crush on Dan Stevens and meets Bill Allen from RAD, and Jacob refrains from claiming to be in a 90's Nickelodeon show.
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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com. This is episode 124 Otherwise known as season seven episode five. I am your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison. How you doing Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:Doing good. Just waking up on Sunday morning.
James Jay Edwards:We're doing it a little later today. We got to sleep in Yeah.
Jacob Davidson:Although yesterday it was 420 So
James Jay Edwards:so it was it really sleeping in. We also with us is your other other host Jon Correia How you doing Korea? How was your fourth? 20
Jonathan Correia:Oh, I spent it at the Long Beach Grand Prix, so I didn't get stoned but I did get sunbaked so I'm still quite Sundazed from that, which that shits insane do they they don't have a track they just close off like a section and they're just like going around like the convention center and aquarium and stuff like in the parking lot. No, like like the streets like they choose. Yeah. And it was IMSA. And like all of those. So those were like, these were cars that were doing like 300 miles per hour and then doing like a 90 degree turn and stuff that was That was crazy. I've never I've never been one of those. So that was a lot of fun.
James Jay Edwards:They used to do and I think they did this to keep people from doing it on the streets. But they would do drag racing out here in the Qualcomm Stadium parking lot. When Qualcomm Stadium was a thing they tore it down and they built Snapdragon, but Snapdragon is only used by the SDSU Aztecs because we lost the Chargers do you guys.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, no, we took the Chargers, cry me a river.
James Jay Edwards:You took the Rams from St. Louis. Don't you guys just creating your own teams?
Jonathan Correia:No. And then you know what? We're taking the next the fucking Olympics. I can't wait. No, I can wait. That's gonna be horrible.
James Jay Edwards:We're getting way the hell off topic.
Jonathan Correia:Is this a horror podcast? Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:This is Eye on Sports. And we have a ton to talk about. This is our baby tomato episode. Because we're gonna play catch up. Like we only got to tell one joke. One episode.
Jonathan Correia:No, no, we took a break at the worst time. It was like right, everything came out. So
James Jay Edwards:we were talking before we hit record that right after the last time we recorded. The big release was
Ghostbusters:Frozen Empire. Have you guys both seen it?
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, I saw it. What do you think? I actually liked it more than Afterlife. I thought it was pretty fun. And it did a better job of kind of doing like a Ghostbusters type story in that it felt like a big budget live action version of the cartoon. Like, you know, had you ghoulies had some ghost busting and it was said New York.
James Jay Edwards:I really liked it a lot. i You're right. It is more of a Ghostbusters movie. I think the reason for that is because Afterlife. I think they were trying to keep the original Ghostbusters. Not being spoiled, you know, but this one you know that everybody's there. And so yeah, and I've heard a lot of complaints. It's kind of getting skewered by the critics, which I don't understand. The hate for
Ghostbusters:Frozen Empire because it's an entertaining movie. And it brings out the new quote new Ghostbusters meaning McKenna grace and Carrie Kuhn and Paul Rudd, you know, the, the familial connection, the next generation, I guess you could call it, but people are complaining that it's all Nostalgia What do you expect from a Ghostbusters movie at this point, so
Jacob Davidson:it felt it was less nostalgia. Cooking then Afterlife, like it did try to do at least a few new things.
James Jay Edwards:It's about the same for me. I mean, nostalgia wise because they still, you know, I mean, they still played up the song they still know who you gonna call, you know, and Annie Potts was back as a Ghostbuster. Which
Jonathan Correia:I love Annie Potts, but
James Jay Edwards:it's I mean, it was pretty much pyramid of nostalgia, but the thing is, that's kind of organic because in that universe, the Ghostbusters frickin saved New York. And even if it happened 40 years ago, you know, when they reappear, people are going to be like, yeah, Ghostbusters, you know, so I don't know. The nostalgia didn't bother me people I think just want to complain about Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:because I mean Ghostbusters are like the old Only ethical form of enforcement of like enforcement there is from a government agency. So like, of course, people are going to be excited when they come back.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah. Speaking of the government agency, the frickin the small dick guys back to in this.
Jonathan Correia:I always loved how he was the villain and that when you're a kid you're like, Yeah, fuck that guy. But then you become an adult and you're like, he's not wrong. Yeah, that is very. We don't know the environmental thing. Was he right to just, like, open up the thing and release to ghosts? No,
James Jay Edwards:no, but like, but he had a point.
Jonathan Correia:I mean, yeah, the looking back. The original Ghostbusters movie is very anti environmental protection agents. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:although the funny thing is, is that in Frozen Empire, they kind of reverse that because plot point is the Ghost Trap is almost at maximum capacity and could explode. And when they asked why they didn't plan for that, journeyman even says, It was the 80s we didn't think about the future. I'm glad they address it. Yeah, they they do admit. Yeah, they there was some faults in that logic. But ya know, I mean, I saw it in theaters, thought it was fun.
James Jay Edwards:Another thing that came out that feels like forever ago, but this one's actually getting a little more love from critics. The first omen? No, no, we've all seen the first Oh,
Jacob Davidson:oh, yes. Oh, let
Jonathan Correia:me tell you first and foremost, y'all know me, you know, I hate going into theaters now because I hate people on it. But we saw it in one of those like AMC prime fucking theaters prime format or whatever. And we were like second row from the front because it was so packed. So we did but there was no one else in a row so we didn't see or hear anybody so that was an Immaculate theater experience.
Jacob Davidson:See what you did there
Jonathan Correia:for oh, I didn't mean to that's great. But for an Immaculate movie because let's see never watched The Omen movies so we watched the first two throughout the week before seeing it and I binge
James Jay Edwards:the first I binge the the for everything except the remake before going up to it and that was an experience but it's the first one is really scary. But then they get a little cornier until four completely goes off the rails four is
Jonathan Correia:we don't talk about four Oh, I
James Jay Edwards:talked about four I thought it was hysterical i don't know
Jonathan Correia:i love the original trilogy with all my heart and revisiting two especially because Jerry Goldsmith did not want to do the same score again but they were like no we have to have the iconic thing and so what he did like Omen Damian The Omen two is like is Jerry would like for the Omen what Attack of the Clones was with John Williams because like you watch Attack of the Clones and all sudden you're like Wait is John Williams using a fucking electric guitar in this? but Dameon The Omen two what they were doing with the Oh, like doing the crow thing that's my only complaint about First Omen was I was sitting there going I need I just needed Oh wow. And I think it was because I watched Damien the night prior I was just like I just need that one but First Omen. I don't know if it was because of the marketing and like that they were just probably predominantly showing like we're doing like at like a 70s horror movie. But I did not I was not expecting like there was so much with it that I that just made sense where it's like okay, you're doing a movie basically about Damien's birth mother, right? So like, of course, it's gonna be gyna horror, but like I that didn't register in my head. And holy shit. Did they pull it off? Like it looked great? They did. They matched a lot of the aesthetics of like 70s filmmaking with like, big wide establishing such shots of the city. The acting was phenomenal. That one scene that was like, yo, yo, you guys that were watching Possession when you were talking about this scene I know you were so fucking good like oh man dude like honestly like First Omen blew me as a lifelong Omen obsessed fan like that. That's everything I needed from an Omen prequel, I think. And also, I got you guys know, I there's there's a there's one shot, you guys can't see because I'm doing a visual thing but the hand reaching out bit. That's going to be someone's album cover. I just know.
Jacob Davidson:That was pretty badass. But no, I completely agree. And I was fortunate enough to see it at the VISTA theater, which was playing it on film, which gave it even more of an authentic kind of 70s experience. And it really did drawn a lot of Euro horror, particularly from the 70s and 80s. You know, just if it was dropped years ago, and somebody said it was made by Fulci or Michele Soavi, I could believe it. And yeah, it's it because it definitely runs a bit harder and there's an ample amount of gore and uncomfortableness And the end the plot was actually very well executed. Because if you had told me, Oh, there's going to be a big Omen prequel, I would have been skeptical because I got what are you going to do with that? And evidently, there's a lot you can do with that. And it was scary as hell like, there were a couple of scares that actually did make me jump in my seat.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, dude, I mean, so much be behind it shouldn't have worked. Like when you think of a horror prequel? It's like you're taking all the horror out of it, but it makes they made it make sense with how it was because it's it's all about, you know, like just getting to it just it made too much sense and like Neil Tiger Free. The lead who played Margaret and that she was phenomenal. Do she did so much like, like I said, that one thing that definitely evoked Possession, and I was just like, holy shit. But even before then, dude, she would do little things with her face where it's just like, what was that? What was that? And I think my only real complaint was, Bill Nye was phenomenal in it. But there was definitely one part where I couldn't help but just go, the greater good, the greater good. You know.
James Jay Edwards:My only complaint with it is I felt that the last act kind of dragged on a bit once you I think it played its hand too early with the big twist, which by now everybody probably knows the big twist, but I'm not going to spoil it anyway. Yeah, I think it played its hand a little too early with that. And I think it could have that would have been a bigger shock if the big twist kind of leads you into the third act. And I thought that the third act kind of dragged a bit once you know that big twist. But you're right, as far as horror prequels go, you're kind of like, what can you add to this? Well, turns out a lot because of the cool twists. You know, it doesn't it doesn't actually tell you the whole story. Like you expect to hear it. So it it is yeah, I I enjoyed it. And then the middle part after they set the whole thing up with this, you know, prospective nun going to Italy to take her vows and then the twist that whole middle section where it's an Omen movie is awesome. Yeah, like like you said the Final Destination kind of stuff. And you know, when it is actually an omen movie, you're like, Okay, this is what I'm here for.
Jonathan Correia:Oh man and d just like at the amount of like fresh talent in that movie that was just like on next levels between the filmmakers the leads, I mean, Maria Cavaleiro as Luz the roommate, like she was just serving the entire time there was a there was a part where they were going out and she put on a blonde wig like that's not going to work for you girl then she worked it was just like how dare you when she gets like the full nunnery. Look, it's like that's not gonna work for you go and then she served and I was just like, god dammit, you are bad. Loved it. Yeah, no, I'm I'm glowing. I loved it. I that's all I needed dude. To keep my to keep my life happy. It's just like a good omen movie delivered, which I don't know if I made the mistake of seeing The First Omen on a Thursday and then going to see Immaculate that Saturday. But I know everyone loved Immaculate and I liked it. It was good. And it makes me wonder if Immaculate was this year's Talk to Me for me where I saw it a little too late and everyone hyped it up so much. And then I had a bad theater experience. Because again it wasn't i That's why I say the Omen who was immaculate theater experience but Immaculate. It was terrible do to get people fucking talking there was this one lady like, especially at the end anytime Sydney Sweeney did something she just got like really loud laugh It was i i liked Immaculate but I think I need to revisit it again. It's similar with Talk to Me. I'm gonna watch Talk to Me soon and give it a second shot because like, I was like, I feel like I would love this movie more just this this. This theater experience is horrible.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, this is why I am very careful about my time and location for theatres. Especially stuff like Alamo or Yeah, like this new bed all that business. Because Hell is other people, especially when they're assholes at a movie theater,
Jonathan Correia:dude, even Alamo. We went and saw Godzilla X Kong opening night at the Alamo and these people that were like, to our left a few seats down. Were like were talking so loud, like that. That's a loud movie and we could still hear them and did
Jacob Davidson:you raise an order card and ask somebody to take care of them like they say in the intro before the movie?
Jonathan Correia:Absolutely. And the Alamo staff were really good and took care of it but like it was just like, Dude, what the fuck like this theater where you know you're not supposed to be doing this shit. Why are you doing this? Again?
Jacob Davidson:How's other people. Hell is other people.
James Jay Edwards:I actually haven't seen either Immaculate or Godzilla X Kong because well Godzilla X Kong they didn't screen for press and immaculate. They screened it on the same frickin night as Love Lies Bleeding, so I haven't seen either. So what did you guys think about this once you guys talk about those for a few?
Jonathan Correia:Well, first of all boys are back in town Godzilla X Kong. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Jacob Davidson:No, I mean, I love Godzilla X Kong because I got into Godzilla in the Showa era where it was a lot of team up movies between Godzilla and other monsters fighting other monsters, which to me is a perfect Godzilla formula like I think Godzilla vs. Gigan, and Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla like a lot of those from the 60s and 70s were kind of my introduction to Godzilla. So this is very evocative of those and you know it's classic setup plot where you know, like last movie was Godzilla versus Kong and you know, they kind of teamed up in that but like this time, like they they both have to work together they want to save the world from the Scar King is basically evil Gods evil King Kong who has his own like personal kaiju weapon and you know this you got a badass Kaiju Team up with Godzilla and Kong you know what's not to love? And I love mini Kong because once again you know going back to the classics it's like Godzilla had a baby Godzilla for a while so now Kong's got a baby Kong, you know, goes full circle.
James Jay Edwards:What's the story with the Power Glove that Kong is wearing?
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah, basically Dan Stevens is the Ace Ventura Kaiju detective slash doctor and at first he like breaks a tooth he helps repari the tooth and then Kong's arm gets injured. And apparently they were developing a augmentation cast system in case Kong ever got hurt. So they bring that in and yeah, it's basically like an exoskeleton Power Glove for Kong so he's got a big ass metal gun today. You can just like smash it with and it's awesome.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, I've seen I was seeing that in the commercials and I'm like, oh, what's the story with that glove? So there you go. No, they
Jonathan Correia:they did a really phenomenal job of like laying down why things are the way they are so like, because we because we did have Godzilla versus Kong in the previous movie and then they talk about like, okay, so Kong is basically down in the Hollow Earth now that's his territory and above is Godzilla. So if Kong ever goes up there, Godzilla is gonna be pissed and come after him and so they do have that moment where basically conflict goes up to recruit Godzilla to help with the Scar King and I forget the new kaiju name off the top my head.
Jacob Davidson:The ice Well, the ice kaiju Yes, name.
Jonathan Correia:It'll come to me in a sec. But so yeah, they do duke it out at the pyramids, which was really great. But they also do, like explain things like with the augmented glove, they explain like, they were like, well, we know how to communicate with Kong Congress, basically our guy, right? But what if he encountered something that he can't handle? So they started developing, like how to augment him but then the government was like, Yo, you cannot make these things that we can't control stronger What the fuck is wrong with you? And so they shut it down. So they only made one glove and so when he injured his hand, convenient, it was the right hand. You know? That would have been awkward. But
Jacob Davidson:maybe it's reversible. I don't know but so the ice the ice Kaiju name Shimo
Jonathan Correia:Shimo! That's right. Shoot, they were great. But no, I really enjoyed it. It was it was literally it's a WWE SmackDown is Kaijus fighting it delivers on all that there's a bit of heart you know, with everything it ties together they set up future but I love just watching like seeing more of the personalities of the Kaiju coming out. So like Godzilla has like a lot more like cat characteristics like Taiwan has been saying like a lot of them are saying so when he said nap after a battle in the Coliseum. It's so cute
Jacob Davidson:it's all curled up. But I was really and also Adam WinGard was at the q&a for the screening I was at and he said if he gets to do another one, he will have either Godzilla or Kong do a Stone Cold Stunner.
Jonathan Correia:Hell, yeah. Because they didn't it wasn't a pile drive. The Yeah, the slime. Yeah, that was great. I was really worried about Suko because I was like, alright, so a sick and tired of like, Baby versions of things. So the fucking baby Yodas and all that stuff. Like I'm always a little weary of that. It's like, oh, you're trying to do a thing. That's cute. But like Ty West said that like he kind of viewed this more like.
Jacob Davidson:You mean, Adam WinGard
Jonathan Correia:Oh, my bad Adam Wingard. I always confuse those two. Adam Wingard said that like, this was like a buddy cop movie. That's how they kind of like pictured like them. So like it was the rogue ones like kind of the more senior thing. And Suko is literally he's not like someone's baby or something. Suko is basically like that one gang member that's not as strong as everyone else that easily gets picked on by the cops and becomes their informant. That's Suko, Suko is that little, the the informer that snitches on them, and reluctantly becomes a part of the team later in the movie.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. And also, I do love that when they introduced Suko, that Kong, you know, tries to befriend him and be nice. And then Suko attacks with some of the other apes. And he literally beats the shit out of the other apes with Suko and just like toss out Yeah, tree Yeah, no,
Jonathan Correia:Kong just picks up Suko just starts beating everyone so good. But yeah, dude, it's it's fun. It's it's a Kaiju mashup. I mean, like, it's great that we are in a golden age of like, different forms of Godzilla being explored where you can have the more Gojira inspired minus one where it's very serious takes on the heavy themes, and then you get to turn around and have this colorful, amazing like, just Kaiju showdown WWE matchup with like, the oh man, the crush on Dan Stevens that came back with that movie only only matched by his letterbox top four interview where he was like for he did for Abigail, and he was like, Oh, well, I got to give my top four vampire movies then it was just like Be still my beating heart.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, Shadow of The Vampire, A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, Norway.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, when he referenced Norway. I was just like, sweetie,
James Jay Edwards:the other one that he did was Herzog's Nosferatu. Oh right.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, that's what made me blush. Yeah, that was the blush one.
James Jay Edwards:Speaking of Abigail.
Jacob Davidson:Yes.
James Jay Edwards:Do you guys see Abigail? No, Jacob do I did I did yeah, it what do you think of Abigail?
Jacob Davidson:I fucking loved it.
James Jay Edwards:I loved it, too. I love it. Is it seriously is it's it's a Radio Silence vampire movie is what it is. So you know that they're gonna subvert the tropes that you already know. But it also kind of embraces them. But it's, oh my gosh, it's it. It's it starts off like Reservoir Dogs, but then it turns into like a slasher movie. And then it just goes I mean, it almost goes full Ready Or Not only instead of a bunch of people hunting one person. It's one entity hunting a bunch of people. And there's just as much blood buckets and buckets and buckets.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah. So much blood. And it was interesting to me because it actually felt kind of like a modern update or Radio Silence's take on classic Universal Monsters and the old this Old Dark House type of horror movies from Universal again, you know, it's under that banner. Because you got a vampire you got a big, creepy dark house that you can get easily lost to and a lot of different rooms. It and no just is so much fun. And, you know, I watched it as blindly as I could. And there was still a lot of good twists and turns. And you know, just as definitely helped by such an amazing cast, including Melissa Barrara in the lead. And again, Jonathan's man crush Dan Stevens, in a completely opposite role to Godzilla X Kong where he plays like real hard ass with glasses and a ridiculous accent. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:he's like an ex cop. And he's got like the cop accent you know?
Jacob Davidson:Because well, he's like trying to go for like more of a Brooklyn accent.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah. Did
Jonathan Correia:you guys know there's a third Dan Stevens movie coming out in major theaters this year?
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yes. I am quite aware of Cuckoo.
Jonathan Correia:I'm very aware that there's a third Dan Stevens movie coming out.
Jacob Davidson:It's gonna be great where he has yet another ridiculous accent. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:The thing about Abigail is they they kind of tell you once you find out what's going on, because it's more than just, they kidnapped this girl turns out to be a vampire. It's like there's a reason they kidnapped her because her dad is like, you know, supposed to pay this $50 million ransom. But no one knows who her dad is to a point. And then once they find out who her dad is all of the, you know, all of the kidnappers are like, Oh, no, I'm out. I'm out. You know, it's theirs. And then they're like, Okay, wait. Are you worried? There's mistrust amongst the kidnappers. They're like, Well, no, you're you're working with them for this. You're setting us up you know, you're it's it's just this crazy exercise in paranoia because they get locked in. It's not just like they can just cut and run leave. They get locked in with her. You know? It's It's so good. Abigail, so much fun.
Jacob Davidson:Ya know, just the rest of the cast is really solid. I mean, you got Katherine Newton, Angus cloud, willing Katelyn, Kevin Durand and Alicia, we're As Abigail like she really she really killed it in every sense of the word. And just like all the ballerina stuff camp combined with the vampire stuff was very amusing. The ballerina
James Jay Edwards:stuff that she would do as a vampire was very M3gan esque. You know, or excuse me, mithraic. And so this
Jacob Davidson:is why do we need an Abigail versus M3gan movie in the form of a dance off?
James Jay Edwards:Dance off?
Jonathan Correia:Have you guys been watching the Chucky series?
Jacob Davidson:No, but I do. I did hear about that cameo or reference. Oh, dude.
Jonathan Correia:So they just came back for the part two of season three. And I think it's in the second episode of part two, because the seasons split into there's a scene where Chucky because he's aging. That's that's the problem with season three is Chucky is getting old and he's dying. And so he's just sitting there watching TV and he's flipping the channel on every channel. It's either like, it's like the dummy from Dead Silence and they're like, Ah, he didn't even get a franchise. We are just like, you're just stealing my style. Then it's that scene in M3gan where she's doing the dance. And he's like, Oh, she stole my move. Fuck you Meg-three-Gan. It's great. That show is so tongue in cheek and just like, great.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, watch season one, I got to finish season two, and they get on with the rest.
Jonathan Correia:Well, and the brilliant thing about the Chucky series is Devon Sawa plays a new character in every season. And every season he gets killed. And so it's always like, how is he going to die this season?
James Jay Edwards:Let's shift gears and go from fun movies to a very serious one.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, let's talk about how I saw that RAD at its 40th anniversary screening. Oh, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:Okay, hell track. Not exactly the direction I was going. But sure, let's talk RAD. That's
Jonathan Correia:right. I'm hijacking this transition. No, they did a they did Fathom Events did an anniversary nationwide screening of RAD, which I saw over at City Walk, which is great. It's great restoration. It's never saw Rad on the big screen without Rifftrax going. So it was amazing. And as soon as the credits come up, all sudden, this guy is standing next to me just start shouting, and scared the fuck out of me. I jumped out of my seat. And it was Bill Allen, the star of Rad. And he just goes, Hey, guys, stick around because they're gonna do an interview thing after this. But after that come across the street. at the food court at City Walk, I'm signing autographs. And yeah, dude, Bill Allen. And it was it was cold, stood outside for like a few hours and signed everything for every person that went up to him. And it was amazing. Bill Allen is god damn mench I love him. So yes, I now have a framed signature for Rad sitting in my office. That's all I wanted to say.
James Jay Edwards:So that's how did you know he was going to be there if it was a suprise to bring your well, but But how did you bring your poster? No, no, no, he had he brought
Jonathan Correia:copies of his book. I think he had a couple records. He definitely had a lot of like pictures to sign. But no, he was just it. And that was the funny thing is, again, this is a Fathom event. This wasn't like a repertory theater. We're the only person showing it. So I just happened to be in the one theater that Bill Allen was at and do it and would do a signing after and I had friends that were like seeing it at other AMCs or other places in town. And so I've just texted him like, Yo Bill Allen was at my screen and like fuck, I'm in Sherman Oaks. I don't have there's not enough time to get there. So yeah, it was a great night.
James Jay Edwards:Where I was trying to steer us is Civil War. I know you both have seen Oh, yes. Yeah, talk Civil War. This is I mean, I love Alex Garland. I love everything he has to say. This is a grim movie. And the thing is my big thing when I accidentally saw the trailer before Love Lies Bleeding you guys know I avoid trailers but with A24 stuff, they give us tickets to paid preview screenings. So that's how we see it. So we have to sit through trailers. I was wondering how the hell they were going to pull off a Texas California unity, you know, coalition with this? And the the the answer is they don't and I think they did that to make it as A-political as possible. So the actual focus is on the Civil War itself and not either side. By the end you kind of get an idea of who is right and who is wrong. But it's also completely Yeah, you kind of get the the idea that the President's a douchebag in this situation.
Jonathan Correia:That's it. But that's it, though, is that no, but
James Jay Edwards:but they don't they don't tell you what political party he's from. They don't they don't draw sides like that. You just
Jacob Davidson:know that doesn't have a name. They just call him the president. Nick Offerman you just know that
James Jay Edwards:the rebels are quote, right. You know, they're they're the righteous ones.
Jonathan Correia:It's it's insane because I had I did see the previews and I was getting really worried because I was like, Oh man, here comes this British filmmaker and He's good. And he's gonna here's his opinion on American politics. Like what kind of take and then like no one was helping the marketing for this movie has been a brilliant kind of terrible that's like insane to be honest because the trailers all make it look like it's going to be politically charged as fuck. More so than like, what was that movie that came out in 2020 unted or The Hunt, The Hunt? They made it seem like it was gonna be as like polarizing as that. And then they came up with those AI posters, which were fucking horrible. Oh, yeah, that was bullshit. It's all drawing attention to it, which is working because it was number one at the box office biggest opening for A24 is
Jacob Davidson:number one box office twice. Yeah. And a week is two weeks. Like that's the first for A24
Jonathan Correia:And then everyone is also going, Oh, well, you know, with this movie, we're kind of saying both sides are bad and stuff. And so like I went into just like ready to just like not be happy about the politics at all with whatever they were going to do. So the fact that the movie actually went so far out of its way to not do any of that to just really set the grounds for like a neutral. Like, Listen, this isn't about politics. This is purely about the horrors of war. The theme here is wars bad and we're doing it through photographers, and you can't do that any other way than creating a fictional civil war in America. Because if you were to set that in like an actual war, you're immediately picking a side and I was like, that's actually pretty fucking brilliant.
James Jay Edwards:And actually having the main characters be the war correspondents CO that photographers who are supposed to remain impartial, I suppose do because the photographers did. But the the guy, the guy that was Kirsten Dunst's sidekick or her reporter, he you could tell that he was planning his interview questions for the President to be very leading. So he he kind of was in on the whole the President is bad and Kay kind of thing. But having it having the focus be the war correspondents who are supposed to be impartial, kind of went a long way towards that towards the whole, you know, not how it doesn't pick aside it. Definitely. It definitely knows how to ride a fence.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, although my biggest takeaway from the movie was just establishing that if there were to be another civil war in this country, we are all fucked. Like you know, just watch it as they drive throughout the countryside, just pure decay, dead bodies and destroyed infrastructure and vehicles everywhere. And then like Steven McKinley Henderson's character is even skeptical that it when the rebels win, they may turn on each other. So yeah, I mean, it's just if civil war happens at this day and age, it's that not exactly like there's going to be any winners or just everything's gonna be bad for everybody.
Jonathan Correia:Well, not just Civil War, just war in general, because there was that really great scene where, you know, there's a sniper, and like, they're, they're sitting with another group, and they're like, so who's shooting at us? And they're like, they're like, Who are you trying to kill him? They're like, the guy who's shooting at us. Yeah, but what side is Is he on? Let me let me say this again. He's shooting at us. So we're trying to kill him. He's trying to kill us. So we're trying to kill him. Yeah, but what side is he on? Let me say it again. Like
James Jay Edwards:yeah, beside that is shooting at us. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:no, but that's the fog of war. You don't know who you're shooting at some of the time sometimes in those things get mixed up. And I just also really love that like, because you have the two separate states and they have their own thing they have like, you know, the patches with the two stars and stuff. And then there's just Florida doing its own thing. Anything even like the news correspondents are like the two Staters are doing this end Florida's being Florida and doing its own separate thing
James Jay Edwards:it's like that's what they win and this parts in the trailer when they encounter Jesse Plemons character who you don't know what side he's on. And he's like, what kind of American Are you? You know, where are you from? And the one news correspondent he kind of lets out of breath he's Florida. You know, he Okay, he knew that. It either way you slice it being from Florida is not good. You know, and the other ones are from like Missouri and Colorado, so they're kind of not taken aside so they're saved but the Florida guys like, Yeah, I'm from Florida.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, I also got to give big props to Jesse Plemons because his scene was goddamn terrifying. Oh,
Jonathan Correia:his scene was terrifying. But it's also led to one of my favorite memes that's happening right now where people are posting the picture of Jessie Plemens. What kind of aliens friend, Alien fan are you? Are you original? Are you do you like the first few do you think AVP was a proper prequel? Are you more of a Covent and Prometheus Alien fan, I love it.
James Jay Edwards:He the thing that's, that's scariest about that and it people are kind of overlooking it but it's like when they when they're they first spot Jesse Plemons and his crew of people they're disposing of bodies. And, and at 1.1 of the one of the reporters asked the other ones who are their uniforms on those bodies and they're all No, you're like, oh, you know, so he's one of those Americans
Jonathan Correia:dude it's yeah it was really good I was like I said I went in with like, I guess some bias of just like ah fuck Here we go. I got I got my ticket for free so I was like, Okay, here we go. And what am I getting myself into? But no, I really enjoyed, well I enjoyed is I was pleasantly surprised I'm like what it turned out to be
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, enjoying is is a tough word to use for this because it's not the kind of movie that you enjoy. But man is it powerful
Jacob Davidson:isn't throwing Yeah, yes.
James Jay Edwards:So did that did you guys see Monkey Man?
Jonathan Correia:I did not Yeah, monkey man. It
James Jay Edwards:was funny. They they screened they did a double feature for us a press double feature The First Omen and Monkey Man. And the funniest thing about that is the posters are almost identical. Yeah, exactly.
Jacob Davidson:The figure exiting the red door. Yeah, Shadow IT
James Jay Edwards:a red door and I actually saw a thing on Twitter where someone's like, oh, what room are these people coming from?
Jacob Davidson:Another post I read called it the mom I threw up. Douology.
James Jay Edwards:It's the red door cinematic universe. Monkey man is? At first. It's one of those What the hell's going on movies, you know, but I've never had so much fun in a movie trying to figure out what is going on. The closest comparison I think is Oldboy. It's I mean, people are saying that it's like, it's like an Indian John Wick. But it's more like Oldboy because he is. It's like a revenge movie. And you don't quite realize what he's seeking vengeance for. Until it jumps around a lot. But you don't you know, another thing I've heard is people are saying monkey man, it's like Fight Club. And it's not really, I mean, he does. He does these underground fighting where he wears like a monkey mask. But um, but that's just kind of part of his training for this bigger mission he's got. But yeah, it's more like Oldboy in and just how this dude? insurmountable odds and he kicks the crap out of everyone.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah. No, I agree. I feel like it was more influenced by Korean revenge thrillers rather than, you know, kind of the Western action movies, although it does have a lot of great sequences. And, ya know, just, yeah, I felt like the story could have been tightened up and there was some pacing issues. But you know, for first movie, I think Dev Patel did a really great job, and also with the underground fights. I love that they got Sharlto Copley to be the bombastic MC who's like building everybody up, but he keeps on shitting on Dev Patel's character.
Jonathan Correia:Love it when he shows up whenever he pops up, you know, at least this scene is gonna be a lot of fun. Oh,
Jacob Davidson:yeah. Now he brings the energy. But ya know, I really dug it overall. And it did have some pretty memorable sequences and fight choreography, like the bathroom brawl, and the finale was really cool. Yeah, no, I dug it, and I look forward to whatever Dev Patel does next.
James Jay Edwards:Yep, um, speaking of Sharlto Copely and, and revenge movies. It's kind of surprising that that there's two of them coming out the same year. I saw Boy Kills World.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah, I'm very excited for that. No, no spoilers. It's,
James Jay Edwards:it takes place in a universe. It's kind of like The Hunger Games where there's like this big government who goes and rounds up quote, criminals, and has them not not even fight it has them executed on on a TV show. And the TV show that they're being executed on is like, it's like high production value. It's like, it's just meant for like entertainment, with like, the sponsors and stuff. And Sharlto Copely is actually the host of the the TV show that executes people. So it's a real niche. Yeah. Yeah, he does. But um, it's, it's your boy Bill Skarsgard. Korea, who he plays a character without a name kind of like, you know, like, you would cut Yeah, like a Clint Eastwood or, or, you know, John nada, kind of a thing where he's got. He has a reason for revenge too. And he's training. It's kind of a parallel the Monkey Man actually he's trained
Jacob Davidson:to love that his inner monologue is H.John Benjamin. Well,
James Jay Edwards:that's the thing he's ever since the tragedy that happens to him. He goes deaf and mute. So and he's saying he's I don't remember what my real voice sounds like. So I took it from my favorite video game. So his so his internal narration is this you know, it's like, oh, and then I went after him, you know, it's it's pretty crazy but it is. It's a lot like monkey man it's just and Jessica Roth is like the, the opposite assassin of him you know from the person that he's the person who's trying to get revenge on his Famke Janssen who is like the leader of the of the family that he's you know, trying to take down but yeah, Jessica Roth and she wears this helmet. It's kind of handy for him because her helmet across the front of it will show like, you know, get out you know, or you know, it'll it'll print words so he doesn't have to read her lips. It's It's hilarious because at one point he meets an ally who he's having trouble reading his lips. So his internal monologue he get the guy speaking gibberish and he says with his internal monologue, so that's that can't be what he said. That can't be what he said. You'd understand a word this one character says because he's having trouble reading his lips it's pretty funny but anyway, yeah, Boy Kills World if you like Monkey Man, you'll probably like boy kills world it's a little more over the top than Monkey Man if you can believe that. But yeah, like you said, we we have a ton to talk about. So I'm gonna I'm actually quickfire A few new things that I saw that, that I don't think you guys have. So just to get them get them out of the way. This is the movie Stopmotion. Which is it? It is it's, it's really different. It's an it is. It's about a woman who does stop motion movies and her and she works with her mother. But she meets this little girl who basically gives her an idea for her own story. So she starts making row and of course, the stop motion comes to life on its own. But it's it's a pretty creepy little, little movie. It's really inventive too. And it's about half Sommet well, a little less than half stop motion and half like real life. But Stopmotion is it's worth a watch as well. I saw a movie called Horny Teenagers Must Die, which you pretty much know what that's about. It's about a bunch of teenagers who go to the woods, and there's a killer out there. And every single character in this movie has sex and you know, it's just like the title says Horny Teenagers Must Die. It is a killer is actually kind of fun. So it is kind of worth it. But it just seems like a feature length. feature length like student movie. So you know, it's not super high. But the real. The real fun. One of the movies that that of the quickfire ones I want to do is Sting. Have you guys heard about this?
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah, the spider movie. Spider movie. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:it's um, it's about this little girl who she crawls through the the air conditioning ducts in her apartment building breaks into other people's houses, you know, to do whatever. And she finds this little spider that right from the beginning. You know, this spider hatch from the meteorite that hit the Earth so you know, it's an alien life. That's the first boy. So she finds it and an alien spider. And yeah, and she she names it Sting not after the wrestler or the rock star, but after the little dagger from The Hobbit. So he has this little spider and she's first she's feeding it cockroaches. And then it starts growing. And soon cockroaches aren't enough for this thing. So it turns into like this massive giant spider and it's it's a giant spider movie. It's got this the spirit of like a Roger Corman monster movie, but with the visual effects and slickness of like a Blumhouse movie. So yeah, if that's your jam, creature features, or if you like creature features Sting is cool. But another cool thing I saw and I know I believe Jacob has seen this too Sasquatch Sunset.
Jacob Davidson:Yes. I love that movie!
James Jay Edwards:This is probably the weirdest movie, you're gonna see this here. It's done by the guys who did Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, the Zellner brothers.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, the Zellner brothers. And it is it. It basically is about a family of Sasquatches who they go through a year in their life and there's not much of a story to it. Probably the biggest Ark there is, is that man is encroaching on their land, because, you know, all of a sudden they start seeing spray painted x's on the trees, like you know, because the loggers are coming kind of a thing you know, so they're like, oh, you know, and the thing is, two of the Sasquatchs are Riley Keough and Jesse Eisenberg. And you can kind of tell from like their eyes, but there is this massive Sasquatch makeup, but it really kind of tells you what the actors can really do. with just their eyes and their body motions because they kind of behave like apes and they communicate with like grunts and hoots and whistles, you know things like that. But it is oh my god it is. It's a look into Sachi Sasquatch life there is full frontal Sasquatch Dong.
Jonathan Correia:Yes. That's all I want. And no
James Jay Edwards:no, it's not what you think Correia this is not Bill Paxton and Taking Tiger Mountain. These are like, I mean, this is just see it.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, had me at Sasquatch dong. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:no, this might be the greatest Sasquatch movie of all time. Because it's pure, unfiltered Sasquatch. Like it's just a Sasquatchs living their lives, getting attacked by animals or doing stupid shit and also showing emotion to each other. Like what I'd say one of the other big arcs of the story is that the female Sasquatch, becomes pregnant, and that's become something they deal with. But yeah, though there are so many Sasquatch fluids and grossness that. It's in this movie. It's, it's, it's insane. But yeah, it's like a nature doc. You know, it's unfiltered. Exactly.
James Jay Edwards:It's shot like a nature doc. It's beautiful, humble locations. And it. It it really captures the beauty of the forest as well. But one of my favorite parts is they it to go with the encroachment of man. They at one point, they come across a logging road that comes through and they're both like, oh, and they they walk out onto this road. And they start like pee in on it and pooping
Jacob Davidson:just spraying every bodily fluid possible. But
James Jay Edwards:yeah, you do get to see a baby Sasquatch get born. The beauty. Circle of Life. Yeah, it's a it's a crazy movie, though. It is. I imagine it's a good double feature with Hundreds of Beavers which I also did see and I loved. Oh, yeah, I
Jacob Davidson:fucking love Hundreds of Beavers.
James Jay Edwards:Oh my god. It's a feature length Looney Tunes cartoon. It is so amazing. But anyway,
Jacob Davidson:twice and it's made me laughs so hard. I've cried.
James Jay Edwards:It is it's hilarious. We talked enough about Hundreds of Beavers. When with Jacob gave his review, I just wanted to say I concur with everything. Jacob said about Hundreds of Beavers.
Jacob Davidson:Thank you. Thank you. Well,
Jonathan Correia:I got a couple of rapid fires. Because I've been playing catch up. I finally saw beekeeper and you guys were right. That movie is just a tech the hive. Fun is fuck dude. Anybody
James Jay Edwards:who doesn't like Beekeeper is just they just don't get the joke. Like the movie gets the joke.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, our friends over at Lethal Lullabies did a did a special screening for friends and we had a blast with that. All sitting in in our pajamas and whatnot. I got the new 4k for Cutthroat Island. Cutthroat Island just had the I think it really just suffered from just like bad financial shit behind the scenes and stuff because that movie is a lot of fun. And basically Pirates of the Caribbean rip ripped it off hard. So that's all I gotta say about Cutthroat Island. Godzilla X Kong Got me to finally watch the 1970s and 80s King Kong movies, which I gotta say, King Kong 76 is a lot of fun. But King Kong Lives is fucking unhinged. You have a lady Kong. You have a Kong birth scene. See, like, it sounds like that would make for a good double feature with Sasquatch sunset. I gotta say
James Jay Edwards:that. No, it's King Kong Escapes where there's a robot Kong, right? Yeah, that's
Jonathan Correia:one. Yeah, King Kong lives is the sequel to The 76 Oh, God, no. de la Renta swan. Yeah, where Linda Hamilton plays a scientist who's studying a comatose because he got straight merkt at the end of 76. So it's like, oh, yeah, no, he's in a comatose state. But also we found a female Kong so like, you know, now you're dealing with a horny Kong and it's just like, it's unhinge. Dude, that is a weird movie. I highly recommend it. I loved it. And I did my lesbians doing crime double feature of Love Lies Bleeding and Drive-Away Dolls. opposite end of spectrum when it comes to vibes but the vibes were immaculate with both. I head over heels over both movies. I can't recommend them enough. Did you guys see Roadhouse?
James Jay Edwards:I did not.
Jacob Davidson:I did not. Ah.
Jonathan Correia:Well, this is just gonna be Correia bitching that because we all know how obsessed I am with Road House. So Road House remake happened. That was a thing. And there's we all know how obsessed I am with Road House. It is unhealthy, how much I love the the original Patrick Swayze movie, so obviously tried to go in with as much of an open mind as possible and the main things that you need to know going into Road House is this is not Patrick Swayze Dalton. This is a very different Dalton. I love the Miami setting. I love the setup with a lot of that. There's a lot of really weird choices that are made like instead of having a Sam Elliott character like the kind of that character is kind of replaced with a with a child whose it feels like her sole purpose was to point out that this story is kind of like a Western and when I say that she does that I mean she literally says this is like a Western four fucking different times which was very frustrating because it didn't need to be meta like that. The fight scenes are pretty good. I there's some good stuff, but there's some like choices with it's so different that some of the Road House references just like don't work or they feel like they're forced in like this was written as a different movie and then someone's like, let's turn this into a Road House remake. And they kind of do that. None of the philosophy of the original movies is in this. Conor McGregor though, is a lot of fun because he's literally walking around like a live action Popeye villain and just like being weird and unhinged. That's how he walks
James Jay Edwards:in real life. And that's how he sounds do you ever see him? If you see him in the ring at a UFC? He's but
Jonathan Correia:like, they give him like the cheesiest fucking lines? It's so weird. Oh man, as we all know, obsessed with Road House I am and also obsessed with the line when Patrick Swayze is fighting the dude the guy who looks Swayze dead in the eyes goes I used to fuck guys like you would prison during the end big fight scene that's replaced in this where they're fighting in the in the in the Road House, which is which is called Road House. Like the actual Road House is called the Road House. Which, of course, they talk about in the movie, but they're fighting and Conor McGregor slam Jake Gyllenhaal's head on a piano and Jake Gyllenhaal goes this pianos out of time and Conor McGregor is like I take it sounds perfect, and I'm like, that's what they're placed. That's what you were placed that I used to fuck guys like you would prison line with? Come on guys so Road House. I'm it's gonna have its fans. It's not a bad movie. It's fun. It's just, you really got to not forget the original movie, but just kind of go in just knowing like, this isn't trying to be Road House at all. It's doing its own thing, and that's fine for for most people.
James Jay Edwards:My question is, how do they replace the Jeff Healey band?
Jonathan Correia:With a lot of various bands they have. They have multiple bands playing.
James Jay Edwards:There's no house band?
Jonathan Correia:No, they have a bunch of random ones. There's one point where it's a band playing Sublime, which was like, Cool. Yeah, like they did like their own like kind of like Florida cover of like, Sublime. I dug that. But, of course, he can't talk Jeff, heed that Jeff Healey band, they were so good, but like,
James Jay Edwards:and also the Jeff Healey the blind guy playing guitar on his lap. It's just such an visual gimmick. I mean, I know that's how he played guitar. So it wasn't written for the movie. But um, yeah, it's just so memorable. I mean, we're talking about an hour.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. Plus, the band has that whole arc in the original Road House where they learn to get better and not get bottles thrown at them.
Jonathan Correia:Well, and that's the thing too, I think. I think there's a lot of stuff where it's like, it feels like there's an escalation. But there I don't the motivation is weird. Like the, like in the original. It's like, this place is a dump, it needs to get cleaned up. And this one, it's like, no, this is a nice place, but these bad guys keep coming in and so like, it's just like a weird, like, the escalation doesn't feel like it matches often, but then it also kind of does. It's weird. Like, instead of Sam Elliot's character being killed in this one, like, bookstore gets burned down. And then like, all of a sudden, like, Jake Gyllenhaal's Dalton becomes a serial killer, like straight up like just he just starts murdering people like a serial killer. And I was like, What the fuck? This is not my Dalton. And that's fine because he's not trying to be that Dalton so that that and that's where it comes because like the original Road House was all about philosophy and like, you know, be cool until it's time to not be cool. And this isn't that movie, which again, is fine for most people. I just, you know, it was fun and fun moments.
James Jay Edwards:The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare now,
Jonathan Correia:Guy Ritchie's Inglorious Bastards?
James Jay Edwards:Yes, that's totally what it is. It's like a naval Inglorious Basterds and killing Nazis. We've said it before, but it bears repeating. killing Nazis is never not fun to watch. So have you guys seen Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare ? Yeah, it is. I mean, it's killing Nazis. And the thing is, it is supposedly a true story. I don't know how many liberties they took. But it is about the guy who Ian Fleming who Ian Fleming is a character in this. It's about the guy that he based his James Bond character on so just one of those, you know, basically improvisors always gets done. You know, they even say they're like, at one point, the mission gets more complicated. They're like, they're like, Okay, we, we tried to recall the mission, but we couldn't get a hold of him. But just so you know, the reason we pick these people is because they don't follow orders, you know, and at that point, you're like, okay, they're gonna get this done no matter what. But yeah, it's, it's, it's basically a rogue group that Churchill sends out and he tells him, he's like, if you're arrested by the British, you're gonna go to jail. If you're caught by the Nazis, you're going to be tortured and killed. You know, no one knows about this mission. I'm not even I'm even going to deny it, you know, once you walk out this room, but this is what you need to do. And, you know, their mission is basically to blow up this supply boat that supplies the U boats, with supplies, so that the Americans can get across the Atlantic to help in the war. So it's a very vital mission that they're on. But uh, yeah, it's it's crazy killing Nazis. But
Jonathan Correia:it's fun. Like, like it's done. Yeah. Is it? Is it just like a fun dad movie? Or is it like a fun like, action? You know what I mean? It's I
James Jay Edwards:don't even think it's a dad movie. I mean, it's. Yeah, it's just a fun action movie. It's just you know, nothing
Jonathan Correia:against dad movies. We all know how much I love a good dad movie. You know, Ford versus Ferrari is great. You know, but like, there's a different level between like a dad World War Two action movie and like an action movie.
James Jay Edwards:This is this is Guy Ritchie trying to do Tarantino I think it has a little more of a sense of humor than Tarantino.
Jonathan Correia:What? So it's Guy Ritchie doing Guy Ritchie that because I mean, that's basically how he got his start was like, Hey, I'm British Tarantino, you know?
James Jay Edwards:Well, that's the funny thing is Guy Ritchie, I he played around with a few things. But now I think he's back to making Guy Ritchie movies. At least with this movie. I don't know what he'll do next. But yeah, I
Jonathan Correia:mean, he's been kind of in that mode for a bit with like The Gentleman and and, you know, those type of movies. It really does feel like he is like, Alright, I'm going yeah, I'm going back to what I would have known for. I think Aladdin broke him a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:So yeah, Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, and let's end with killing Nazis. So we'll this this has been a big catch up episode because, like I say, we missed an episode in the wrong time of the year, but here we go. We're all caught up now. Our theme song is by Restless Spirits ago, give them a listen. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher. Go give him a like. You can find us on any of the socials under Eye On Horror or@ihorror.com which is the website we all call home. And yeah, reach out to us at any time. Let us know. What did we miss anything that you that you seen that? We didn't? Do you like these ketchup? episodes? I do. I really like these and not that I have anything against our topic episodes. And I definitely don't have anything against our interview episodes. But I like these just you know, sitting around and bullshitting about movies. You know,
Jonathan Correia:it's what it's all about. That's our logline. We Eye On Horror sitting around bullshitting about movies.
James Jay Edwards:It's what we do. It's funny, we always joke that and I'm not saying we're going to but if we ever do a Patreon, we're going to just record all of the times that we are not recording where we just sit around and bullshit. This bullshit. The stuff that doesn't make the podcast is just as interesting.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, it's not. We're not interesting.
James Jay Edwards:No, I said just as interesting. I didn't say that. The podcast itself is interesting. Alright, everybody, we will see you in a couple of weeks, hopefully, unless we take an unplanned break again. But uh, yeah, we'll see in a couple of weeks. So for me, James Jay Edwards.
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