Halloween Hangover 2023

This week, the boys talk about what they did for Halloween season 2023! Movie marathons, checking out Knotts Scary Farm (WAY better than Universal Horror Nights), Trick or Treaters, the new interview with the director of Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Hooptober, and more!

Also the boys review Five Night at Freddy's, Sugar Hill, JD's Revenge, No One Will Save You, Cobweb, Wrath of Becky, Paul Lynde Halloween Special, Earthquake and so much more! Its all new on a special Halloween Hangover episode of EYE ON HORROR!

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James Jay Edwards: 0:24

Welcome to Eye On Horror the official podcast of iHorror.com This is episode 116 Otherwise known as season six episode 17. I am your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison How you doing? Doing

Jacob Davidson: 0:39

good and appreciate to having that extra hour from daylight savings to sleep.

James Jay Edwards: 0:45

Yeah, we we went back in time overnight. And yeah, I needed it too, also with us as always is your other other hosts Jon Correia How you doing Correia.

Jonathan Correia: 0:56

Doing great. I got to get an extra hour of Farscape and last night for some reason, had restless legs and couldn't sleep so I just like laid there watching Farscape. Oh, my phone my headphones on. So it's great.

James Jay Edwards: 1:12

This episode is going to be because we've had so many gosh darn guests which, you know. I'm not really complaining because they were all great. But we've been falling a little behind on what we've talked about, because if you may have noticed, we seemed a little rushed. Because we have to get to the guests. Well, this episode is going to be much more laid back and we're going to talk about stuff that we have not gotten a chance to talk about because we've been rushed with guests.

Jonathan Correia: 1:38

Halloween hangover episode. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 1:41

the Halloween hangover episode. But before we get to our hangovers, the first thing we got to talk about, let's rip the band aid off. Have we all seen Five Nights at Freddy's?

Jacob Davidson: 1:50

Yes.

James Jay Edwards: 1:53

Yeah, yeah. What do you guys think?

Jonathan Correia: 1:56

By the way, our reviews right now or is about to show our ages, so hard I feel

James Jay Edwards: 2:03

okay, well then let me go first as the old guy. You know, I thought it was just tonally all over the place. There's like the fan service movie where it's about you know, animatronics gone crazy. And that was more like a campy, almost like, you know, Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey or The Banana Splits Movie that kind of a thing. Although it wasn't as much fun as M3gan I didn't think. And then there's the serious movie, which is like a Blackphone, Sinister kind of Scott Derrickson missing kids ghosts kind of a thing. And I don't think it quite mixed. For me. It didn't quite work. For me. I mean, there are parts of it that I thought were fun. But then most of it, I didn't. What do you guys think? Well,

Jacob Davidson: 2:45

it's interesting, because, you know, I've only played the first game. So you know, I only did like kind of some background research into this. But it did seem like they directly adapted a lot of the story and lore or whatever, from the games. So it's kind of interesting how they put that into live action. Personally, I thought it was fun. I mean, granted, your critique is accurate that it was a little tonally scattershot, but you know, those Jim Henson animatronic five knights are well, the Freddy Fazbear animatronics, I should say, were pretty incredible to watch on the big screen. So I did enjoy that stuff. And yeah, the missing kids plots. Probably could have been implemented a little bit more. How do I put this? It just not as confusingly. But overall, though,

James Jay Edwards: 3:41

it seemed like two movies.

Jacob Davidson: 3:43

Yeah. It did shift around a lot. Although, that was also pretty funny too. Like, I loved all this stuff with the aunts lawyer, which felt almost like Coen Brothers, but

James Jay Edwards: 3:57

the aunts lawyer was, yeah, he was. It's funny. He maybe had two lines in the whole movie, but his presence. What's hilarious about him. Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 4:07

yeah. Well, I agree with the tonal shifting and stuff. I mean, I'm I was here, predominantly for the Jim Henson puppetry. I mean, yeah, we all know I'm a Muppet fiend I did I exist purely for the mayhem

Jacob Davidson: 4:22

there was some Muppet mayhem in this there was

Jonathan Correia: 4:25

when when it when the movie does the thing that five Five Nights at Freddy's is famous for you know, with the security cameras and the puppets popping up and stuff. It was really effective. It was really good there. Like there was a sequence in the beginning where they like pretty much did like almost a playthrough where you got to see like the puppets looking up at the security camera and freezing and stuff. And that was awesome. I've never played the games I've I've watched people play. I was always more of a Night Trap guy myself. But one thing that I did really enjoy was seeing Mary Stewart Masterson said she played the Aunt she was also the romantic lead in Some Kind of Wonderful the one of the few like John Hughes teen movies that I love so that was great. I was like, Wait, she's very Oh, she's reason why I crush on female drummers. So, but know that also Matthew Lillard?

James Jay Edwards: 5:24

Oh my gosh, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 5:25

He ate. Oh my goodness, that whole interview thing was just had this like perfect level of like comedy and like ominous and but like also like playfulness with it that was just like fantastic. The puppets were great. I mean, again, it's it's one of those things it's kind of funny seeing like the age disparities of people who absolutely loved it, and those that didn't. So it's a super fan service movie. And

James Jay Edwards: 5:51

that's another thing I the screening I was in. It was a press promo screening, and they did invite a bunch of a bunch of Five Nights at Freddy's fanboys, you know, that were all cosplayed out and everything. And at some at certain points during the movie, they would all just start cracking up uncontrollably. And I'm like, Okay, I missed something here. There's something that I don't get, because I never played this game, you know. So I feel like, I am definitely not the target audience for this because I have never played the game. And I feel like I may have gotten more out of it. Because there were parts when when that got an audience reaction, and I'm sitting there going, what what did I miss? Did I knod off?

Jonathan Correia: 6:32

Yeah. And that's and that's a good question of like, when you are adapting an existing IP, especially one with such a rabid fan base, Do you lean into that fan base and leave out anyone who doesn't get it? Or do you try to make it more mass appealing? Well, and what will lead to success? Well, with this one, it looks like leading into the fan base, doing something for them. It's been really successful, because I mean, it's already like, made a bunch of money. Specifically,

Jacob Davidson: 7:02

I've looked this up, it's already made over $200 million. And keep in mind, this is only on a $25 million budget.

James Jay Edwards: 7:11

And the thing is, it looks like a more expensive movie than 25 million because I mean, it looks great. The effects are great. It's got Josh Hutcherson and Matthew Lillard who aren't exactly, you know, B-listers. I mean, they're not like Johnny Depp. But you know, they're both big names. So they made the most of their 25 mil. They got a lot out of it. Yeah. And

Jonathan Correia: 7:33

not only that, but surprise, had the best same day in theaters and streaming numbers since Black Widow. And not only that, but I think Jason Blum even said that with that streaming deal, they made their money back before it even touched theaters because of that deal. So Black

James Jay Edwards: 7:50

Widow was during the pandemic, this theaters are open. So yeah, it I mean, that was an interesting move to make it be day and date, you know, in theaters and on streaming, but it worked for him,

Jonathan Correia: 8:03

which thank God because if I had to go to the theater to see this, I would have been pissed. Not because of the movie, but because modern movie theater that are chains we're not going to talk about art house ones are fucking garbage. Yeah, if I have to hear one more rich filmmaker, say, oh, go into the theater. So it's so special that we have to preserve it. Yeah. Talk to fucking AMC talk to Regal about like actually reining in the bad experience so that people can fucking enjoy.

Jacob Davidson: 8:33

Yeah, actually wanted to comment on that because I did I see it at an AMC. I did see it in theaters. And I did go in like a matinee show because I figured there'd be less people. And an interesting thing happened because a bunch of kids did show up. And I was and I was bracing for all man, they're gonna be annoying, they're gonna talk or they're gonna, like, record it or something. But actually the movie really suck them in because like they were talking and messing around a lot before the movie. But when that movie started, like they were laser focused. Like they were all in on it. So that's the thing. Maybe something like Five Nights at Freddy's just really captures their imagination.

James Jay Edwards: 9:17

I don't know if I told you guys. My story about Killers of the Flower Moon about how a guy in the theater basically invited the entire theater to his living room to watch it because he was talking the whole time now if he like seriously like, he'd be like, Oh, we set her up. I can't believe that. Did you see that? And I'm like, Dude, shut the hell up. Yeah, we all saw that because we're watching a movie. Yeah, so anyway, and this was at a press promo.

Jacob Davidson: 9:47

Oh, shoot,

Jonathan Correia: 9:48

and that's a quiet movie.

James Jay Edwards: 9:49

Security should have been like all dude, you you know, either shut up or get out, you know, anyway. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't sure if I shared that with you guys. But yeah, That's

Jacob Davidson: 10:00

the thing if that was a, that you wouldn't expect that type of behavior at a press screening

James Jay Edwards: 10:06

of a three and a half hour Scorsese movie. I mean, it's not it's not Rocky Horror.

Jacob Davidson: 10:12

Ya know that that type of stuff, you just got to like actually go and tell security like somebody's causing a problem. I

James Jay Edwards: 10:19

was sitting right in front of the PR reps. So I know they were hearing this guy because I was hearing him and I'm like, is it? Is it my job to knock these people out? You know? I guess it is. The answer is yes. And I

Jonathan Correia: 10:33

hate that. Like when people are being like super disruptive during theaters, people were like, Oh, why don't you go out front and tell them I'm like, so I have to step out of the fucking theater. And miss what parts of the movie that I paid for this, I have to step out because it's somebody else's behavior to go tell. Go tell on them. Like, no, we need to bring back ushers and that's

James Jay Edwards: 10:56

the thing in regular screenings, if someone does need to tell them because they're not standing the whole time. But in this press promo, they have security and reps hanging out.

Jonathan Correia: 11:06

They're there to make sure no one records Exactly.

James Jay Edwards: 11:09

They're too wrapped up in their night vision goggles, making sure no one Yeah, so which I mean, I get, you know, especially with something like Killers of the Flower moon that, you know, let's face it, people would rather watch that on their couch because they can take bathroom and snack breaks

Jonathan Correia: 11:24

That's what Lindsey said. Yeah, yeah.

James Jay Edwards: 11:27

So but yeah, anyway, let's let's not harp on the negatives. Is the theater going? Yeah, it's Well, that just that

Jonathan Correia: 11:33

just proves how excited I am that the Egyptian is opening up again and the VISTA here in LA. Lindsey and I are pretty good week of each other. Yeah, Lindsey and I already got tickets to go see Alien at the Egyptian theater. So it feels like going home.

James Jay Edwards: 11:46

And what a movie to go home to Alien. Yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 11:49

Yeah, that was the opening movie back in the 70s. Huh. Well, let's see on my end for Halloween hangover, I should mention that we had the Aero horrorthon last week, and I think it was fun as hell time. Like, here's the lineup for this year. Let's see was Stuart Gordon's Dolls fun. Then, Frank Hannon waters. Franken hooker? A blast.

Jonathan Correia: 12:20

Yep. I've already seen the tone they were setting.

Jacob Davidson: 12:25

Yeah, and then Psycho 2. Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 12:30

that's an interesting one to throw in there. Okay.

Jacob Davidson: 12:33

Yeah, yeah. And also Dolls and Psycho 2 both 35 millimeter. And then they played Jess Franco's Faceless with Telly Savalas who's kind of a running character and star in the Aero horror Athan show and for those of you don't know the Aero horror Athan has its own lore and events in between movies with lots of kind of inside jokes and stuff so it's really sunny got to see to believe or you can look up some of the fan recordings on YouTube it's it's an experience Oh and this I was pretty happy about they did John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness on 35 millimeter superscope Nice. Yeah, no, it looks stunning. It was like as close to seeing in an IMAX as could be. And then they ended on Carlo Rambaldi's Primal Rage. How

Jonathan Correia: 13:28

many people left that theater going wow Psycho 2s actually dope

Jacob Davidson: 13:33

think more people than you'd expect? Yeah, yeah, I think people were into it

Jonathan Correia: 13:37

because Psycho 2 rules but it does over that like Psycho 2 is really solid at no right to be but

James Jay Edwards: 13:45

it's no Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 me is actually pretty solid sequel. I think.

Jonathan Correia: 13:51

Did you see the interview with the with the director of Blair Witch 2 recently,

Jacob Davidson: 13:55

though Yeah, I heard about that.

James Jay Edwards: 13:57

The one where he said that they made him basically reshoot most of the movie at the last second.

Jonathan Correia: 14:02

Yeah. He went to a screening. recently. It was the first time he watched it since he made it and and he and he talked about like, what they were trying to do with it. And then like, what the studio's made him do at the final hour because they were ready like rush job getting that in and I can I think I have more of an appreciation, I never I didn't hate the movie. I just like digging at James for it. But I mean, yeah, I have more of appreciation of what he was trying to do. And you can see it the two movies being mashed into one aspect of it.

Jacob Davidson: 14:37

Yeah, and that's the thing like, Blair Witch fever is so huge like Blair Witch Project came out in 99. They put this out like a year later.

James Jay Edwards: 14:44

Yeah, it was 2000 they, they didn't waste any time on it. You know, getting it out. So yeah, and the thing is the reason they chose him Joe Berlinger, he did those Paradise Lost. Yeah. And after Blair witch he went into That Metallica movie Some Kind of Monster he's a documentarian so that was part so it kind of is confusing that they stripped basically the documentary aspect out of Blair Witch 2 because that

Jonathan Correia: 15:14

That was his choice

James Jay Edwards: 15:17

it oh he did he say that was when he wants yeah

Jonathan Correia: 15:20

look up this interview he drops a bunch of nice nuggets because they bought they brought him in to do that legitimize like we got this award winning documentarian to do the sequel, and he's like, but that shticks done like the like the actors from Blair Witch already doing like press rounds like everyone knows it's not real. So I want to lean into like the feverish fandom around it.

James Jay Edwards: 15:40

And that's what I love about it. That's that's what I love about that movie. It's not really a sequel to the movie, it's a sequel to the hype.

Jonathan Correia: 15:46

Yeah, and then they forced them to bring in all that like blood and gore all the bits that like don't really makes sense really with it. And then the other cool nugget he dropped is that because of the react because like it made money so it wasn't, you know, a disaster but like, you know, he got rid, you know, railroad and like rake through the town over like it so he took all that energy and like it inspired him to go after Metallica Some Kind of Monster so if it wasn't for Blair Witch not doing well, we wouldn't have one of the greatest music talks of all time. So

James Jay Edwards: 16:23

Wasn't there one review that he read that basically said that he should not exist or something? There was there was some brutal review that like basically said that he should not be born or should not have been born in its cycle. That's a bit harsh

Jonathan Correia: 16:38

remember, this is like the beginning. This was like early years like online criticism. So like, online, like people giving like movie opinions from Joe Schmo or whatever. We're just starting and so yeah, you got to see that toxicity.

Jacob Davidson: 16:57

Also, did he say why it was called Book of Shadows, even though there is no book shadows in the movie?

Jonathan Correia: 17:02

I don't I don't think so. That's a good question, though. Maybe it's like, Book of Saw.

James Jay Edwards: 17:10

Did he talk about the secret of his or her? Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 17:13

yeah. Excerpts but those are the juicy bits.

James Jay Edwards: 17:18

Basically what I've been doing since there haven't been a lot of horror releases out lately is I've been catching up on quote, older stuff steal stuff from this year. But stuff that we've talked a lot about, but I just hadn't seen yet. And one of them is Cobweb I finally saw Oh, yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 17:35

we watched that on on Halloween. Yeah. cobweb

James Jay Edwards: 17:38

is awesome. That movie is really awesome. Speaking of like, of like a Scott Derrickson esque. You know, you know, Kid movie he'll, you know, like, like movie that revolves around kids that it's a combination of something like Sinister and Halloween and then also it goes Malignant on you. Without spoiling too much. But yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 17:59

also gave me a Trick 'r Treat vibes. Because, again, the weird thing was, is that it's it is distinctly a Halloween movie. And yet it was released in like, July, and it was completely buried by Barbie and Oppenheimer and

Jonathan Correia: 18:13

Lizzie Caplan ate it. Oh, man. She was fantastic in it. It was really funny sitting there and like, because Lindsey you immediately was like, So Anthony star is bad right? It's like well get Homelander out Yeah, like give this thing a shot. No, he's too fucking weird to not be the bad guy and I'm like, but are they there's some good good there's some good questions with that. The the third act kind of derails a little bit but I it's still so much fun. No

James Jay Edwards: 18:40

it derails in the best way. That's why I'm kind of you know, I don't want to talk too much about it, but it derails in the way that Malignant does and I love that yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 18:50

I just think Cobweb is one of those ones where like I can see why why people will be like the fuck this is I don't like but like there's so much with it where I'm like I dig with what you were doing and what you were trying to do and like it doesn't always do it well but it doesn't in a fun way that like I it never it never not caught my interest. Like I had my full attention both times I watched you this year so yeah, I dug Cobweb a lot

James Jay Edwards: 19:17

another thing that I saw that that you guys were 100% right about it was awesome is No One Will Save You

Jonathan Correia: 19:25

oh yeah oh finally i guys I've literally been messaging Jay to watch this fucking movie for every week you

James Jay Edwards: 19:33

know I watched it a while ago but we just haven't had time to you know because you know again this episode is a bit of a you know kind of a gotcha it's a Halloween hangover Yeah. Because without with not wanting to take time away from the guests. I didn't really want to talk about it when we've already talked about it when you guys saw it but um Oh man it is it's it's in the thing is the ending. And I don't want to spoil anything but the ending left me kind of going out There's there's two ways it could go. And I'm still not sure which way is right. And I don't want to spoil anything, so I'm not gonna like go into it. But um, yeah, it's, I mean, this doesn't spoil the movie for me. It doesn't ruin the movie for me it. It just kind of opens my eyes and like, oh, wow, that was kind of a little ambiguous, but, man, it was it Yeah, it was terrific. I, I had so much fun with it.

Jacob Davidson: 20:27

Yeah, it makes it just makes me wish I could have seen it in theaters. Because it's fun movie, but I feel like it would have been very different. If I could have seen it in a theater.

James Jay Edwards: 20:36

I feel like it would have been a quiet place type of an experience in theatres. Just because there is. I mean, I think there's what like two lines of spoken dialogue in the whole movie.

Jonathan Correia: 20:46

Yeah. It's great. I've been doing a lot of like, back watching like older stuff and whatnot, mainly because of HoopTober which for another year in a row, I have failed miserably in trying to watch 31 and 31 days, even though it starts September 15, it always happens September 15. When it starts, I front load I watched like seven or eight. And then like, by October comes I'm like, Alright, cool. We can do one a day. And then something happens and I'm not able to watch a title for a week or two. And then yeah, but yeah, there's some some really good ones this year this year was focused on Satan. So there's like some Satan titles. So you know, I was all about that. Yeah, this year it was called HoopTober let Satan come over. Some highlights from my list was The Demon's Baby, which is one of the featured movies in Vinegar Syndromes made in Hong Kong. boxset

Jacob Davidson: 21:44

Oh, yeah, that's a wild one. Oh, man,

Jonathan Correia: 21:46

this movie came out in like late 90s And it's very Sam Raimi like influenced and it's about this like warlord in ancient Japan who China or China my bad dad's fright made in Hong Kong cheeses made made in China and his concubines basically get possessed by this by these demons. And so like they almost all easily become pregnant and like their stomachs open up so that kind of is like this Alien Evil Dead like thing where like the fetus is eating people by like, pulling them in it's It's bonkers, man. Like

Jacob Davidson: 22:25

that's just gallons of blood very Dead Alive.

Jonathan Correia: 22:28

That second half is bonkers. And it has such great dialogue like, you should never feed a ghost tofu. And like, that was one of the reasons why one of the characters dies. It's it's yeah, it's worth it's hunted down get the blu ray box. It's great. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 22:44

the other movies in the box that are pretty good too. So I would recommend it Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 22:48

I will dive into those at some point. But another big standout for me was Earthquake because they needed there had to be a disaster movie from the so Earthquake from the 70s, woah and you guys know I love my disaster movies. I love The Wave. I love you know, The Quake, but Earthquake Holy damn that. That movie holds up. The practical effects are dope. The cast is top notch.

James Jay Edwards: 23:12

What was that? Was that a TV movie in its day?

Jonathan Correia: 23:15

No, that was that was one of the big event movies.

James Jay Edwards: 23:18

Because because the cast is like it feels like a TV movie. Because it's like star star star star. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 23:25

It's Richard Roundtree as like an Evil Knievel knockoff. Any does stunts in it. Charlton Heston Ava Gardner George Kennedy, Lord green, George Kennan,

Jacob Davidson: 23:38

but Oscar winner George Kennedy.

James Jay Edwards: 23:40

George Kennedy is awesome.

Jonathan Correia: 23:42

He's so good at it.

James Jay Edwards: 23:43

He's good at all of those. He's the he's the only person who can roll down the window of a plane to shoot a flare.

Jacob Davidson: 23:51

Yes, yeah, Airport.

Jonathan Correia: 23:53

One of my favorite bits in this is Walter Matthau is in it. And he plays a bit character where he's just a drunk. And he's just kind of in the background. And there's like this ongoing bit of him just like randomly saying actors names and he's just wearing the most 70s getup, but that's his that's his whole thing. He's in like three scenes. He's mostly in the background and he's just drunk and it's amazing but yes, the practical effects are amazing living in LA and seeing a lot of like the familiar sites crumbling and like, dude, people take straight up dingers in this like every time like stuff shakes there's debris hitting people like taking people out it is it's brutal like I was I was really taken aback on like, oh wow, you're showing a lot of people die in this like and not just like, oh off in a distance this thing comes down. You see like little ants get crushed. No, like you're you're straight up seeing like, giant glass shards going into people. And it's like, Whoa, yeah, Earthquake.

Jacob Davidson: 24:52

And also one of that RIP Richard Roundtree who just passed away? Yeah, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 24:57

I mean, one of the one of the greats. One of the best and and again he steals the show. He's one of the like, I mean, he's not you know, one of the leads like Charlton Heston or something in this but Richard Roundtree every time he comes in with that leather suit, it's

Jacob Davidson: 25:10

it's gold. I bet. And as for me, I had a fun Devil's Night and Halloween. Because for those you who are fans with Crow we all know devils night is the day before Halloween usually involving pranks or I guess in the context of The Crow. arson.

Jonathan Correia: 25:31

Arson is not pranks?

Jacob Davidson: 25:33

Arson can be pranks. Oh, but yeah, so I also like to see supernatural horror movies on devils night. So the new Beverly had a great blaxploitation horror double feature with Sugar Hill and JD'S Revenge. I've either you guys seen seen those. I

Jonathan Correia: 25:53

love Sugar Hill sugar. It's got such a special place in my heart for being one of the early one of the first Blaxploitation films I've seen. But JD'S Revenge is so bonkers. That is incredible if you haven't seen JD'S Revenge, that was a previous hooped over title and that from years ago and JD'S Revenge, just

Jacob Davidson: 26:15

Yeah, yeah, basically Sugar Hills about a woman. Danna Sugar Hill played by Marquis Bay. Her husband who owns a popular and influential nightclub is killed by gangsters because they want control the club so she decides to get revenge. But she's not just going to like shoot them like she invokes the power of voodoo to summon Baron some day the Lord of the Dead in voodoo to like summon zombies and like setup these elaborate kills. And it's kind of funny because like, the guy playing Baron Someday, Don Pedro Kali, like he does it in kind of a way that oddly reminds me of Freddy Krueger because like he does the pawns and he has these set pieces and he kind of appeared to disguise to set people up. So it kind of is kind of a proto slasher movie to while also being a blaxploitation revenge film. And as I love that, just Sugar Hill is is a badass, like, she like she does not have any second thoughts about revenge or, you know, her actions is like, Yeah, I'm using voodoo to kill all these racist asshole gangsters. And she's right to do so.

Jonathan Correia: 27:35

Oh, Sugar Hill. She's one of those like, blaxploitation characters like Coffy or Cleopatra Jones where she is just an icon on herself. Only her like weapon of choice is voodoo zombies and yeah, I mean that just voodoo

Jacob Davidson: 27:50

dolls and she and she like has like, again all these elaborate set pieces. Yeah, no, I loved it. And yeah, JD's Revenge again. Yeah. John you are and getting it is bonkers as movie because it's basically about Okay, so this like upstanding law student who gets hypnotized and some, and he gets like, possessed by the ghost of JD that in the title, who was a gangster in the 40s. And now he starts turning into a 40s gangster guy to get revenge for the ghosts murder. And it's kind of like, yeah, like a demonic possession thing. Except he's like wearing starts wearing like a Zoot Suit. It's

Jonathan Correia: 28:41

great. It's a great double feature with Petey Wheatstraw. If you're already Yeah, if you want like bonkers supernatural blaxploitation. Those two are

Jacob Davidson: 28:51

kings. Yeah. Also, gotta give a shout out to the new Beverly for playing a bunch of great blaxploitation horror trailers before the show, including some I've seen that are a lot of fun like, Abby, aka The Blakorcist, the black Exorcist, which you know if you can find it, it's it's a ride. Let's see. Also they did Scream Blacula, Scream, the sequel to Blacula with voodoo and Pam Greer, and, and this one isn't as well known, but I think it deserves more attention. This movie called Combat Cops, where it's basically about Austin Stoker from Assault on Precinct 13 as a cop, tracking down a serial killer and serial killers mo as he dresses up in blackface so that people will recognize them and also because he's a racist asshole, and he's like going on a killing spree for the town. And it's, it's basically it is kind of like, blaxploitation version of kind of like a se7en type of film. You know, like the serial killer taunting him and all that. Holy shit. Yeah. If Yeah, it's a pretty sure it's on Tubi or something. But you know, and I also think it's by Richard Gertler, the guy that did Abby Yeah, so yeah, no, those are all blaxploitation horror titles worth looking up. And also the OG Blacula. Because you can't go wrong with blacula. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 30:09

That's so great. Speaking

James Jay Edwards: 30:11

of, of racist assholes. Another thing that I caught up with was the Wrath of Becky.

Jonathan Correia: 30:17

Oh, I was like, what this can go in many ways.

Jacob Davidson: 30:21

That's a lot of transitions, right? Hey,

James Jay Edwards: 30:23

you know, the king of transitions. Movies about killing white supremacists will never not be satisfying. Nope. Especially when they mess with your dog. Oh, you know, the Wrath of Becky. I didn't think that they could top the first Becky but I think they did. I think it it's it is. It's basically Becky from the first movie it has to go in you know, and you guys have already talked about this already. But she goes into like the foster care system, but then like escapes, and and basically

Jonathan Correia: 30:59

she's been training Yeah.

James Jay Edwards: 31:03

And she runs afoul of a bunch of proud boy kind of dudes and you don't want to run afoul of BECKY Yeah, it

Jonathan Correia: 31:12

is good. Becky gets an upgrade is what it is. Yeah, it is. She's been training. The proud boys have been like, amassing weapons for something. It's you gotta watch movie but like, ya know, she definitely gets up because in the first movie, it's like, Home Alone ask stuff. This one she gets like guns and like, explosives and stuff. It's great. And Sean William Scott.

Jacob Davidson: 31:36

Oh my gosh, Jake. Yeah, I still gotta see it. But like so he plays like the head Nazi guy.

James Jay Edwards: 31:41

Yeah, it's another one of those where you're like, wait a minute, we're, we usually like this guy. You know, like, Well, they did that with the with the first Becky too and I want to say Kevin Arnold, not Kevin Arnold Jacobs, Kevin James. Kevin Hart.

Jacob Davidson: 31:57

Your freaking Tom Arnold. No,

James Jay Edwards: 31:59

I was thinking Kevin Arnold. He was The Wonder Years but yeah, Kevin. Doug Heffernan. So yeah, they're Becky's pretty good at subverting these Comedy Stars into villains.

Jacob Davidson: 32:11

Yeah, I wonder who they're gonna get for the third one. I'm kind of hoping Patton Oswalt

Jonathan Correia: 32:18

Patton Oswalt as like as like a hacker computer guy. That'd be great.

Jacob Davidson: 32:25

Or just make him like a cult leader like Linus Rosh in Mandy or something because they had the new because he had he had the neo Nazi convicts in the first one they have these probably guys in the second one so yeah, like third one had Becky fight. I don't know some evil religious cult. That's led by Patton Oswalt as a cult leader.

Jonathan Correia: 32:46

Yeah, that'd be great. I again, I didn't you know I didn't hate the first one. It just wasn't so much my cup of tea. But I loved the second one. Wrath Becky's is a lot of fun.

James Jay Edwards: 32:58

I think I liked the second one better mainly maybe it's because like you said she gets an upgrade and I think that like you said it's like Home Alone traps in the first one. The white supremacist deaths are more satisfying because they're more I don't know it's more they're less sneaky they're more in your face.

Jonathan Correia: 33:20

Yeah. This is this is Becky's Rambo First Blood Part Two, right? Because if the first one is mostly like traps and like running and like, you know not you know, this is this is more like alright, guns blazing. We're going in to save the dog. You know? Even the dog that's my my one critique of that movie is the dog doesn't die but the dog good. They fake you out a bunch times like this dog about to get merced because I'm about to be very upset well,

James Jay Edwards: 33:50

and also they killed a dog in our first Becky. So you know that that's on the table for them. So yeah, but yeah, I think like like you said, that's something that I think should always be spoiled. The dog does not die in Becky. Becky in Wrath of Becky it does. It does die and Becky. But yeah, another thing that I caught up with, which is a little older, and I'm gonna mess up how you say this Enys Men

Jacob Davidson: 34:13

that was a good one. And yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 34:15

that, that that movie is a trip. I mean, it is like, if you like Skinamarink you'll like Enys Men it's like that same kind of vibe where it's more atmospheric than plot. And it is. Yeah, it is just such a strange little movie. I'm so glad movies like that exist movies like Skinamarink and Enys Men and there's an it was and I saw it a while ago but it was like a twofer deal with the guys other movie Bait. Which have either you guys seen Bait? I haven't seen either

Jacob Davidson: 34:51

of those but I got it wasn't wasn't bait the one with the sharks in an underground mall. No,

James Jay Edwards: 34:57

no, I think I don't think so. Bait it's by this Same guy who did Enys Men I haven't watched it yet. It was just part of that always confused. Yeah, I think there might be I think you're right. I think there is a movie called Bait about sharks in a mall.

Jacob Davidson: 35:10

Yeah, wait, no. Yeah, it is Bait 3d. My bad.

James Jay Edwards: 35:14

Okay. Because of course, sharks in a mall is in 3d. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 35:20

How else are you gonna present that?

Jacob Davidson: 35:22

I mean, you got it? Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 35:24

Do we have the technology?

James Jay Edwards: 35:27

I at some point I'm looking forward to to watching Bait and you should watch Enys Men. Correia. That, yeah, if you if you got that bundle. I mean, the bundle was I think it was like seven bucks. So I'm like, I'm okay. I'm on this. And Enys Men I watched immediately when I got it, because because because of basically Jacobs Review, I'm like, you know, this sounds like something that's going to be my and it is it's just the thing is you don't go into it expecting a whole lot of plot because it's not there. But it's more just that underlying sense of creep. You know, like Skinamarink, you know, it's a great companion to Skinamarink, except it's a much brighter movie because it's all outdoors instead of all indoors.

Jonathan Correia: 36:07

Well, I have the time now because we're done with all the weddings I had to go to. And then also, I'm not trying to fit all my Hooptober titles and although I am going to try to complete the lists this year, but I did do J you might know this named Peter or no, sorry, Paul Lynde. He was the actor, right? Yeah, he was one of the most prominent people on Hollywood Square. Okay,

James Jay Edwards: 36:34

I was gonna say I'm associating him with the Muppet Show.

Jacob Davidson: 36:36

Yeah. Also Roger. So the voice of Roger from American Dad was based off of him. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 36:42

And he was the voice of the rat in the animated Charlotte's Web back in the day. Well, he was a big like, personality in the 70s. He was a closeted comedian. And his shtick was very, you know, leaning into that. But he made one of the greatest Halloween specials I have ever seen. Someone put me on to this, and we watched it for Halloween. It's incredible. Paul, Paul Lynde is fucking hilarious. First of all, but the cast is stacked it's him floors, Henderson, Margaret Hamilton, who was the evil Witch and Wizard of Oz. And yes, she does Dawn green paint in it. It's great. Billy Hayes, Tom Conway. And it also features the first Primetime appearance and performance by Kiss. Kiss performs like three or four times yeah, it's it's really great. It's on YouTube. So some some beautiful person out there. Put it up there. It's hilarious. What

James Jay Edwards: 37:41

is it called? Is it the Paul Lynde Halloween Special or I think so. Yeah, now that okay.

Jonathan Correia: 37:46

l y n d e. It is it is so much fun. There's like, there's he they do a whole disco song that like you sit there. You're like there's a double entendre about penis in this.

James Jay Edwards: 38:01

I know that he I associate him with main like you said Hollywood Squares like The Muppet Show. I think he was on Match Game piano. You know, he was one of those celebrities that was a celebrity because he was a celebrity you know, like, I don't know if I know of any of his creative work other than just being himself on all these shows.

Jonathan Correia: 38:22

Well, he I looked into him and interesting, interesting life. I think they're actually developing a biopic with Billy Eichner on his life, but he was he was very much so like a like a you know, because he was closeted, but also like leaned into it.

Jacob Davidson: 38:38

He was very flamboyant. Extremely

James Jay Edwards: 38:41

the fact that he could stay in the closet and act like he does. You're like all really

Jonathan Correia: 38:46

crazy, but there's like a catch 22 With that, but he had like a bunch of like, pilots that were made that were never picked up. But he would do the specials. And then he got into Hollywood Squares, and like became the center square for like, 1000 episodes or so over 1000 episodes. Like he was like the second person that with that, and yeah, what an interesting and kind of sad life that man led but his Halloween special is incredible. So yes, go check that out. And since we are talking how Halloween hangovers I want to talk about haunts because, you know, I've said in the past how much I love going to universal Horror Nights and how the last few years have been the most disappointing. It's overcrowded. And like the the haunts themselves are very short. So like you wait two hours to go into a thing for five minutes. The production value is always there. The scares are always there. The IP is for certain there. They always get like top notch IP. But we finally went to Knott's Berry Farm, or should I say Knott's scary farm? And it was their 50 year anniversary of doing Knott's Scarry Farm which the great thing about Knott's Berry Farm is Knott's scary farm basically pays for it. Like that's this is the night that they are, these are the nights that they make their money to run the place for the whole year because the price ticket prices are so cheap to go there during the rest of the year. But like I think you can get like a year pass for 100 bucks. It's it's crazy. But yeah, good luck finding getting down there and parking Anaheim sucks. But holy shit, it was it was incredible. The haunts like, we were in line for like 1015 minutes. And these were long lines too, but like the lines went through quick. And the haunts were longer than the lines sometimes like you'd be going through it and it would just keep going and go and

Jacob Davidson: 40:38

I timed it actually because I went to Knott's Scarry Farm last week too. And like the like the average Haunt time was about eight to 12 minutes like you get eight to 12 minutes of haunt time walking through those and you also get your steps in, and

Jonathan Correia: 40:53

so you get your scares in tune because they were legitimate. They had like an alien outbreak thing which was like heavily like Alien and The Thing inspired and there were blood and guts everywhere. They had one called the lighthouse which was like the depths or the depths which was like Lighthouse and they had Dagons and they had a big Cthulu

Jacob Davidson: 41:11

Lovecraft. Yeah. Ah, but my favorite was the cinema slasher maze where you go inside a bunch of slasher movies. You go into the screen. Yeah, no, it's like these made up slasher movies. And yeah, you literally go into the screen and through these theaters and their scares in the theaters where like people are ghouls in the audience jump at you. And my favorite is like they go big on the animatronics. Because like, at the end of the maze like you think you're coming out of the theater for the screen, you see like the light of the projector, and then suddenly the light moves because the projector is a giant film projector Skull monster that like roars that you

Jonathan Correia: 41:44

It's so cool. It's so cool.

Jacob Davidson: 41:46

That's what I love about Knotts though, is because like they don't do anything based off IP. So like they all their ideas are wholly original. So, you know, they get very creative with it. Oh,

Jonathan Correia: 41:56

they go hard. And then they also for the for the 50th year they did this one where it was the chilling chamber, the Chilling chamber where it was like it was the best stuff. And so they had bits and pieces and props from all of it from like, various ones. Yeah, throughout the years. And that one was incredible. That one went on. I feel like the longest one felt because I was the first one we hit and I was like, holy shit are they all like going to be like this 20 minute long thing. But the great thing about it is it was right next to a Snoopy the Snoopy theater. Oh, yeah. Which is like Snoopy and it's like Snoopy scouts. I'm sorry, I don't know peanuts lore that well, but it's like a new. Yeah, so there's Snoopy in the canoe. But it was great because they still had all the Snoopy stuff in view. But they were playing The Shining theme. So it was really weird seeing this like Snoopy cabin aesthetic with like the I was like, this is the scariest fucking thing here. The other best thing and I always highly recommend this whenever. Alright, listen, whenever you're in a park, and it's night, the last thing you should do, the thing you should do before you leave is do the log ride. Because log rights log rides at night fucking rule. And the log ride at Knott's scary farm is the greatest thing ever. Again. This thing goes on for fucking ever. And it's great because you know it starts off it's like oh, there's a scary Jacqueline's. Oh, there's another Jekyll engine. What is that an alien next to some hobos. Okay, and so you're going and there's like little things sprinkled and then all sudden, it's like get ready for the Jamboree, and you around the corner. And it's like all the leftover props from other haunts are just like, regurgitated all over this big jamboree thing. So they had a SAMSquatch they had aliens. They had Zombi just like everyone just all around these like hillbilly hobos just like drinking and stuff it was it was everything like I have a huge smile on my face just talk about it i fucking love that log ride so yes not scary far better the universal hands down

Jacob Davidson: 44:05

yeah, not scary. Really is your you get your money's worth there. I

Jonathan Correia: 44:09

do love it. Good luck with parking again because Anaheim sucks.

Jacob Davidson: 44:13

That is true. Let's see and let's talk about Halloween proper. Yeah, like this year my Halloween was pretty low key you know this year Halloween fell on a Tuesday so got most of my partying and stuff done on the previous weekend between Yeah, not it's like I went to a Halloween party. I went to the horror Athan, I went to knots. And then on Halloween actual like I had a morning shift and then I just kind of hung out. And rewatched Halloween 3 and then that night though, I decided to celebrate in the best way possible. A friend was hosting a screening of a 16 millimeter print of the original John Carpenter's Halloween at the Lumiere Theatre in Beverly Hills. And you know it's funny because like I don't really watch the original Halloween all that often you know very seasonal but you know just every time you watch it you realize why it is such a classic like it is genuinely perfect slasher movie between the tension and the sets and the characters. You know, just Jamie Lee and yeah Michael Myers from the beginning scary as hell, though this is one thing though, is that I kind of wish that they kept up with Michael's tricks because he was a bit of it was a bit of a trickster in the first one like when he did when he had no reason to do this. Like he took Paul's glasses and wore the ghost costume to surprise his girlfriend. Or Bob right Bob My bad.

James Jay Edwards: 45:46

Can I get your ghost?

Jacob Davidson: 45:49

Yeah, no, just I wish to do more gags in the Halloween movies because yeah, yeah, sure he's scary and you know, and he stabs people but I think it'd be scary if he just like did like weird little shit like that and every movie listen,

Jonathan Correia: 46:01

I think that the night he came home that first night changed Michael because I do think he had a little bit of a you know, petty side a little bit of a trickster side of him. But you know, after getting stabbed in the face with a club with a clothes hanger and shot a few times shot

James Jay Edwards: 46:16

six times

Jacob Davidson: 46:17

I shot him six times

Jonathan Correia: 46:19

I could see one getting a little jaded and kind of dropping the whole face like Oh, this isn't funny anymore. I'm just gonna merch people now. That's that's cool character growth

James Jay Edwards: 46:30

it's part of his arc. Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 46:32

and speaking of I also rewatched the original Halloween too after that, you know keep up continuity because

I also rewatched Halloween 3: 46:39

Season of the Witch starring our Lord and Savior Tom Atkins Dimech is Yeah. And ya know, I really I really do love the original Halloween 2 where you know they go to the hospital and it's it's you know the after the night he came home or it's like going into November 1 It's got to be after midnight at that point. I mean, it's got great kills God created tension setup. I mean honestly if you just removed the whole fate the whole twist thing about Laurie being Michael sister then you know it's solid movie because that's the thing like that plot twist doesn't even apply to the movie it was just it because like she I don't think she even really finds out they just kind of disclosed it in the car and they have the weird flashbacks but it has no real bearing on the story proper you know it's like they say you know the Halloween movies are kind of a choose your own adventure style thing and how you watch them. So my

James Jay Edwards: 47:37

Halloween we did usually on Halloween. My wife is out of town for some reason. And so I'm hiding in the back with the dogs from the trick or treaters but this year she was in town. And also this year, last year I noticed there were a lot of trick or treaters in our neighborhoods. So we actually gave out candy we hung out we hung out in the driveway giving out candy and we have this big window and the front of our house that looks in on my TV. So we had that window open and I was playing the first two Hotel Transylvania is on my TV. As we were hanging out giving candy and people were coming up. Oh, Hotel Transylvania, you know, they people will recognize it which made my heart grow two sizes when people were all people were recognized in the movie replay because I was joking with Trish. I you know, she's put on something family friendly but spooky. And, and I was like, Well, I couldn't find Hotel Transylvania. So I put on I Spit on Your Grave. You know, I was joking. But no, we had Transylvania on and I was surprised at a number of people. It actually made me kind of spooky because you know, these people can see what I'm watching. You know if they can. It made me realize how many people can watch TV with me, I guess from the neighbor? Because they see it so well. Yeah. So

Jonathan Correia: 48:51

when you're marathoning the I Spit on Your Grave. You got to make all the shades down closer there.

James Jay Edwards: 48:59

We have our neighborhood I was actually we've been walking the dogs we've been going through and you know, I will would never myself buy one of those $300 skeletons or werewolves you know from Home Depot? Because I just you know, I can't justify the cost and where am I going to put in the offseason? But I'm so glad that there are people in my neighborhood who do have them. Yeah, because we'll be walking the dogs past them. And there's a giant werewolf and a giant skeleton right down the street. And and you know, I'm just so glad that it exists and I get to look at it without having to deal with it myself.

Jonathan Correia: 49:34

You see the I think one of the only reasons why want to buy a home is so I can justify the purchase of a 13 foot tall Home Depot skeleton like that's that's homeownership doesn't add it's not the most appealing thing to me, but owning one of those and having it up your route does So someday, someday. Bar Halloween was pretty chill. We watched the Paul Lynde Special I worked most of the day. And then we, we went down to a friend's party and we went to, WeHo because we had their first Halloween parade. Since the pandemic we got the tail end of it though. I will say not a lot of Ken's surprise, which was great. But I also made the note of like the Casa Mojo Ken, there was only like one the rest were mostly like, the Rollerblade outfit. And yeah, I just thought that was that was a that was a funny note because everyone's like, oh, there's gonna be so many Kens of somebody's it's like, Nah, it was pretty chill with that.

James Jay Edwards: 50:37

We got a lot of Harry Potter's and granted they were kids. So you know, of course a kid's not going to dress like you know, Casa Mojo Ken, but I was surprised that at the number of Harry Potter's we got I know kids like Harry Potter. Yeah, but it just seems like you know, when was the last time a Harry Potter movie came out? You know? 10 years ago?

Jonathan Correia: 50:57

Oh, fantastic. Beasts.

James Jay Edwards: 50:59

Yeah, yeah, I guess the ugly? The Yeah, the spin offs, but I was just surprised that Harry Potter still has legs like that.

Jonathan Correia: 51:08

I think it's because the the kids that grew up on the Harry Potter books are now adults, and they're forcing it down. Their kids go out there. I'm trying not to say I don't like every book. So I but I'm not negative. Hey, if that's your thing, that's cool. But you know, but I do. I do think it's that we're seeing that cycle happen. You know, it's kind of like how our parents and my parents introduced me to you know, Star Wars All Star Trek, all that fun jazz. You know,

James Jay Edwards: 51:34

there were also a bunch of Batman's, I noticed who Harry Potter and Batman were the two big ones. And then one thing that kind of surprised us there were I mean, not a ton, but there were enough dogs that were trick or treating with their families that Trish and I have decided next year we're going to have dog treats for the dogs like they the dogs can trick or treat with us too.

Jonathan Correia: 51:55

So um, so just one of the things I was so excited about and moving out of the woods of New Hampshire into a city like LA was to have trick or treaters. But trick or treaters don't go to apartment buildings. So yeah, the only time we've ever had kids like come by us is when we had our next door neighbor's had kids and apparently our decorations terrified them. What few we had on our doors, which poor kids because we were at the beginning of the hall to their door so those kids that walk by or decorations. But we didn't know until after so yeah, but we were like hey, we have this giant bowl of candy. Do your kids vote? He's like, they can't have any more candy. I was like yeah, that makes sense. So yeah, if you show up at my place I'll give you candy. I have a lot we

James Jay Edwards: 52:45

have we didn't give out all the we had to is funny because we had this little bowl. And then we had a backup bag. And Trish was like yep, this is what $50 worth of Halloween candy looks like

Jacob Davidson: 52:58

that's a lot of candy.

James Jay Edwards: 52:59

it well. It's it's it's it is a lot of candy but surprisingly not I was like really this is 50 you know it it doesn't go as far as it used to and the candy pieces are teeny tiny now that if the Halloween candy ones they're like they're like quote fun size but that's like a quarter the size of Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 53:20

font size is a lie. But you

Jonathan Correia: 53:23

know it's great though is today is the days after Halloween because I just cleaned house. They had these like court like Halloween corn nuts things that were like cheddar flavored. Oh man, but snacking on those but the banks are so far. It's like a handful. That's it.

James Jay Edwards: 53:38

All right, well, um, I hope that you bear with us on our Halloween hangover episode. This was just a whole lot of us talking. So if you like that you were probably in heaven. We hope that you all had a great Halloween and drop us a note. Let us know what you did if you did something fun. Because, you know, we all seem to have fun doing our thing on Halloween. Our theme music is by Restless Spirits. So go give them a listen, including their new album afterimage, Dad, it's fucking dope streaming everywhere. So yeah, go give Restless Spirits, some love our artwork is by Chris Fisher. So go give him some love to if any of you want to get a hold of us, you can find us on all the socials at Eye On Horror or@ihorror.com, which is the site we all call home. And we'll be back in a couple of weeks, most likely with an actual topic that we can discuss and it won't just be you know, us sitting around talking about what we've done for the last month. Although when is this podcast, not just us talking about what we've done for less but it's what

Jacob Davidson: 54:41

we do. So, James, can I plug something else I've been working on

James Jay Edwards: 54:46

Sure. That's right. Yeah, your new pod? Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 54:48

yeah, I'm working. I'm co hosting a new podcast with Ryan cultura called the Hallowrewind podcast. You know, just keeping in line with the Halloween season. We're basically we bring in guests and talk about various Halloween specials and TV episodes and movies. Oh, oh yeah, I was gonna say our first episode is up right now on Spotify and Apple iTunes and we've got some social media set up at Hallowrewind, you know, Twitter, Facebook, all that. So if you want to keep Halloween going year round, give us a listen. And if

Jonathan Correia: 55:24

you guys do want to do an episode on the Paul Lynde Halloween special, you know who to call then ya know

Jacob Davidson: 55:30

that new fun idea, John, are the first on the list for the polling, special specific Pau Lynde specialist Jonathan Correia.

Jonathan Correia: 55:42

Let me go watch it eight more times.

James Jay Edwards: 55:45

Cool. All right. Well, yeah, we'll see you in a couple of weeks. And if you miss us during those couple of weeks, go listen to Jacob on the Hallowrewind. And we will see you later. So for me, James Jay Edwards.

Jacob Davidson: 55:57

I'm Jacob Davison.

Jonathan Correia: 55:58

And I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards: 55:59

Keep your Eye On Horror.