Eye On Horror
Eye On Horror
Into the Pits With Punk Rock Horror
This week, the boys are rowdy as they debate Connecticut being spooky, debate their favorite Janets between Susan Sarandon and Jessica Harper (an unfair question to be honest), leaving time to review Blue Beetle, Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar, Swallowed (2022), The Meg 2: The Trench, Joe Lo Truglio's Outpost, Grizzly 2: Revenge, and the Pope's Exorcist.
After all that, the boys trash their way into this week's topic, Punk Rock Horror! Discussing representation of punk in films, best examples, most cartoonish ones, their favorite Lee Ving roles, and why horror and punk rock go together like peanut butter and chocolate. ITS ALL NEW ON EYE ON HORROR!!
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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com. This is episode 112 Otherwise known as season six episode 13. I am your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison, how you doing Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:Doing good if I sound a little different because I'm on vacation in the spookiest state of all: Connecticut OOOOOHHH, because there's a Haunting in Connecticut and Haunting in Connecticut 2
James Jay Edwards:also with us, as always is your other other host, Jon Correia, how you doing Correia?
Jonathan Correia:How do I follow that up? Because I mean, first of all, that's a bold claim that Connecticut's the spookiest state. I mean,
Jacob Davidson:Jeez
Jonathan Correia:listen, I get it. I'm from up north I get it. But no, also just the thought just yes two Haunting in Connecticuts but if we remember Haunting in Connecticut 2 something Georgia wasn't that the title
Jacob Davidson:thing it was A Hunting in Connecticut 2: A Haunting in Georgia. But it just is so stupid because like why would you even call it A Haunting in Connecticut if it's about A Haunting in Georgia?
Jonathan Correia:It's a hold on, I got the title right here. Yes. The Haunting in Connecticut 2: Ghosts of Georgia. Like is if
Jacob Davidson:those states are far apart.
Jonathan Correia:I mean, if we're going New England, I mean, I think Massachusetts you got the Salem Witch Trials there, Maine you got people who live in Maine there, you know, like there's spookier places than Connecticut.
James Jay Edwards:Where where's Burkittsville from The Blair Witch Project?
Jacob Davidson:Maryland
James Jay Edwards:Maine or is that Maryland?
Jonathan Correia:Maryland? Maryland says I think Maryland's the sleeper cell for like spooky places because like Maryland, you don't think about Maryland
James Jay Edwards:and in Baltimore with Edgar Allan Poe. I mean they earned it
Jonathan Correia:or even Delaware mostly just because no one remembers Delaware. Remember in Wayne's World?
Jacob Davidson:It's a good state.
Jonathan Correia:I'm in Delaware
James Jay Edwards:so would you guys been doing anything cool happening this week?
Jonathan Correia:Oh man, just a lot of mindless working and stuff. I will say that I might not bring up Star Trek as often anymore for I finally finished my Next Generation rewatch which, man that's seventh season. It's like they they forgot all the stuff that made the show so great after the first two seasons and they just kind of like regressed a little bit. They had a whole thing they gave Beverly Okay, I need a bitch about this for two seconds. It is and it does have to do with spookies. They were terrible at writing for women on Next Generation. They did not give them many episodes, Deanna or Beverly Crusher, Crusher. And when they finally give Beverly Crusher, who is a badass, has all her shit together. She's an amazing doctor. Pretty decent mother, but Wesely is a special case, as we all know. They give her an episode that's all about her in the seventh season. And what it is, is she her grandmother or aunt dies. And so she goes to the to the funeral, it opens up at the funeral. And she meets this man, and he turns out to be a ghost that's been fucking her relatives for generations. Like every generation, there's a woman in her bloodline that falls in love and has sex with this ghost. And so Beverly goes, You're right. I'm quitting the ship. I'm quitting being a doctor and I'm going to stay here and bone this hundreds of years old Scottish ghost and it's like, I'm sorry. What season are we on on this? This is a seventh season and you're gonna have like the most got their shit together. Character fuck a ghost. No, no. This is Star Trek do better. Any who's
James Jay Edwards:the big release that happened since we talk last isn't really horror, but it's Blue Beetle. You guys seen Blue Beetle?
Jacob Davidson:Ad? No, but I want to.
Jonathan Correia:I've heard good things.
James Jay Edwards:It's, it's okay. It For Me. I mean, it's kind of a fun little superhero origin story. It's not he's not as much fun as he is in, you know, the Teen Titans animated movies because he's not a teenager. He's a college graduate. So he's like, 22. But my issue with the movie is that it's, they even say in part of the movie where they're talking about the Old Blue Beetle, not Jaime Reyes, but you know, the old one there like he's like Batman, but he has a sense of humor. And this movie, with the exception of George Lopez, who actually says that line about the sense of humor and Susan Sarandon, who kind of plays the big baddie, the movie doesn't have a sense of humor. George Lopez and Susan Sarandon understood the assignment the're make trying to make it like this campy, you know, Deadpool kind of thing. But everyone else is trying to make an Iron Man and make it be a serious superhero movie. And, you know, it's, you know, it's impressive. It has some good fights, you know, it's, you know, got some good special effects. But the thing is, there's no, there's no sense of humor to it, really. So it you know, it's just another superhero movie, which, you know, it could have been something a lot more fun. But, you know, it's, I mean, it does its job. It's just that you know, there are so many, especially with DC piling and piling on, and on right now, there are so many, you know, superhero movies, but you know, this is, you know, somewhere between Shazam! Fury of the Gods and The Flash is where this one lays.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, kind of, I haven't seen it yet. But just in general, it kind of feels like, just in how people are approaching the DC films now, because they know all of this is getting scrapped like this, this universe of it. Even though Blue Beetle as is said to be a part of the new one. It does kind of feel like people have given up on the DC movies. I haven't watched The Flash, it did just hit Max, but I made the mistake of texting my buddy. Hey, Flash finally hit max. I know you were waiting. What do you think of it? And I got like, two pages full of like, text critique from him on it. And I was like, oh, oh, no. Because I was actually kind of looking forward to like, I was avoiding everything. I did watch that. The big cameo bit that leaked on Twitter, and that was a that was rough. But again, Jay if you really like I know I said it last episode. But if you really like a Blue Beetle, Blue Beetle is a huge part of Young Justice season two.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's not bad. It's worth checking out. It's just that I feel like it could have been they could have made it more. It could have been great when it's only good, you know, but on the Susan Sarandon is actually a pretty amazing, kind of in that Malin Akerman from Rampage type way, you know, she's, she's a pretty great villain. I love Susan Sarandon. I mean, I'm a Rocky Horror kid, so I kind of have to love Susan Sarandon. But whenever I see her pop up in anything like like she she had a one episode of Friends that she's in, whenever that episodes on, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm on Janet.
Jonathan Correia:I actually was just about to say because I've been obsessively listening to the Shock Treatment soundtrack again. You know, that thing that happens once a year where I suddenly go, man, that soundtracks a fucking banger in it. Who's your preferred Janet than Susan Sarandon or Jessica Harper?
James Jay Edwards:See, Susan Sarandon to me will always be Janet. But Jessica Harper can sing circles around Susan Sarandon.
Jacob Davidson:That's fair.
James Jay Edwards:So I think as a Janet, Susan Sarandon, but as a vocalist, I'll take Jessica Harper
Jonathan Correia:It is funny because I was the one that posed the question and I don't think it's a fair question either. Because there are two different Janet's and like, you know, Susan Sarandon is Janet definitely comes into her own with their sexuality for a moment not too long but Jessica Harper's Janet in Shock Treatment comes into her own and just being up, like, just being That Bitch. She's fucking awesome. Like her whole seat, hurls song about it's me, I'm me. Or even
Jacob Davidson:just I really, you know, I've never seen Shock Treatment.
Jonathan Correia:Buddy, we got to change that you need to watch Shock Treatment I know, I know
James Jay Edwards:Shock Treatment is it's really underrated because a lot of people I think when they compare it to Rocky Horror, they're like, disappointed but the thing is it it's, it's,
Jonathan Correia:it's not a sequel
James Jay Edwards:they use. Well, it's kind of a sequel of characters.
Jonathan Correia:its an equal
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's an equal. That's a great way to put it
Jonathan Correia:it's that's the tagline for the movie. They're like, it's no, we're not doing a sequel. It's an equal.
James Jay Edwards:I will put the soundtrack for Shock Treatment up against Rocky Horror's. The music is amazing. And the thing is, they've got better singers. I mean, with the exception of Tim Curry, and then the thing is, Richard O'Brien, Little Neil, and Patricia Quinn are all in Shock Treatment as well. They play different characters, but they're all in it as well. But there's a better Janet there's a better Brad because it's Clifty young.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, he's so good. And he plays two roles in it that
James Jay Edwards:Hey you're spoiling
Jonathan Correia:I didn't say who the other one was.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, no, you're not because he obviously plays two roles. You just don't know right away who they both are. But yeah, yeah, dude Shock Treatments awesome. I love Shock Treatment.
Jonathan Correia:What what also what's so great about Shock Treatment. I love how this quickly turned into like loving Shock Treatment is that it critiques reality TV like 20 years before reality TV was a thing.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, reality TV was not a thing when Shock Treatment. Yeah, it is but it but it's because the thing is Jacob this kind of setup is Denton where The where Brad and Janet are from it's basically it's kind of like a Truman Show kind of thing where it's set up as basically a television studio. Yeah. And so every person in the in town is a character in this TV show. Basically, they're
Jonathan Correia:either in the TV show or they're in the audience to the point where when the show is done, the audience just sleeps in the in the, in their seat. Yeah. And if Rocky Horror Picture Show is all or our Rocky Horror Show is all about, like sexuality, and, you know, and critiquing the American suburbia views on that, then Shock Treatment is really going after consumerism and capitalism and television consumption.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's it's more television consumption. But it's funny because Brad and Janet, they're married, but it's it goes places. Janet kind of steps out of her own. You know, she stops being Brad's wife. Oh, and becomes her own thing. And the thing is, Ralph and Betty have bigger parts in this one too, who basically just bit players in Rocky Horror. Yeah, it's Oh, it's so much fun. Oh, no,
Jonathan Correia:the whole premise is they're married. They go on a TV show to compete, but Brad loses. And so Janet, and so he gets locked up into an insane asylum for losing prizes on the game show and Janet kind of becomes like, her own like, egotistical like Movie D. TV, television diva. And
James Jay Edwards:yeah, she she becomes a big star. Everyone loves her. So like she is becoming like, I guess a real housewife? I don't know. But she even
Jonathan Correia:says like, if only he could win a prize.
Jacob Davidson:Okay, I'll definitely be adding that to the watch list.
Jonathan Correia:It's It's so good. Speaking of musicals, excellent segue that we talked about it before, but
Metalocalypse:Army of the Doomstar finally came out.
Jacob Davidson:Yes. And I've been meaning to see it.
Jonathan Correia:It is perfection. I did a complete rewatch of Metalocalypse including the Doomstar Requiem, which is still amazing. And it's annoying how much I know. Like I get it. I can't make fun of theater kids because you know when theater kids when they hear a song from it, and they break out in song, that's me with Doomstar Requiem now, but Army of the Doomstar is phenomenal. It's a it's it's the it's the finale movie for Metalocalypse. Which if you don't know the show, it follows the most popular metal band of all time, to the point where they're an economic powerhouse and like the entire world's economy is based around them. So like if they
James Jay Edwards:Do you like coffee?
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, we're here to turn coffee metal like 1000s of fans show up just to hear them do a coffee jingle and like the first episode. But all throughout the series, there's this plot thread about these these
Jacob Davidson:Illuminati type?
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, there's an Illuminati group. There's these old stories and myths about the Doomstar and how the Metalocalypse is upon them like show it's called Metalocalypse and Army of the Doomstar finally brings you to okay this is the Metalocalypse is how it happens and it is not only just such a great finale they wrap up everything nicely, but it's a huge love letter to the fans because after Doomstar Requiem Adult Swim cancelled it and like would not allow anything to happen outside of Brendan small touring live as Dethklok. To the point where I there was multiple times where Adult Swim was like trolling fans being like, Oh, do you want Metalocalypse to come back? Email us or fax us at this thing and they would have the fax that they would have a live stream of a fax machine where every time a letter came in after it printed it would fall right immediately into a paper shredder.
Jacob Davidson:Why?
Jonathan Correia:I don't know what the whole deal was there was some like behind the scenes drama but it was basically for 10 years people were demanding were like going like come on give it a finale let it end properly. There's too many threads that are not ended with the show. And with Max they were like Alright, cool. Yeah, we're gonna get a movie so Brandon Small spent like the entire pandemic working with like, brought back a lot of the people that worked on the show and they really did like everything like alright, what are some loose ends that we did never tie them what are this and like the first like five minutes of the show of the movie is then being interviewed in there like hey, so it's been a really long time since Dethklok has released any thing like yeah, we're back we're gonna go on tour and we're gonna we're gonna make an album it's gonna be fucking great. Yeah, and some people thought you guys were never gonna go back Oh yeah, well those people fucking suck Fuck you guys who thought we'd never come back like that. But it's metal as fuck the the animations phenomenal. They really did a great job of like, alright, we have a bit more of a budget because Metalocalypse is one of those Adult Swim shows that always had like a bit of Cheap animation, look and style to it like that Hanna Barbera look,
James Jay Edwards:my favorite thing about about Metalocalypse. And Dethklok is one of the features on one of the early DVDs. And I think you can find this on YouTube. It had a guitar instruction video by one of the guitar players and working at Guitar Center at the time, I was real familiar with these guitar instructor videos and it was perfect just like it in the guys like there is. So says we're going to learn how to play solos, you know, and he in and if you watch his hands, he's really playing what he's telling you. Like, the animation is amazing, you know, and he'll be like, Oh, that sounds good. Here you go. You know, he's just hilarious the way that he's been here we go and this part here goes.
Jonathan Correia:I'm telling you that it's such a Yeah, it's so good and Dethalbum IV is phenomenal. I mean, like, how could you not love songs like Aortic Desecration ya know.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. Um, anyway, so yeah, I'm on my vacation right now. And every time I go to Connecticut, I always got to go to the archives. So I went to the Vinegar Syndrome archive in Bridgeport, and it is amazing how much they've expanded. It's like it's like a few floors now in a basement they've got like a backroom now for like books and merch and comics and magazines. And as always, their spread is unimaginably good like I could spend my life savings there. It's very
Jonathan Correia:easy to do that there. The one time I went there I was like, Oh, wow, Rollerball media book from Germany. Yeah, I'll drop 70 bucks on that. I guess
James Jay Edwards:you and your Rollerball.
Jacob Davidson:You gotta have Rollerball
James Jay Edwards:I love roller ball too. But you're like how many versions of it do you have? Oh five? Four?
Jonathan Correia:I think I think we're only at four you know we don't need to be judgmental Okay. Although very quickly Winker, Wicker Man is becoming my new because I was like, Alright, I got finally got rid of my old copies, I have the definitive blu ray and then they're like, well, now the definitive 4Ks coming out in England. Well, shit now I gotta get that and apparently Lionsgate is also putting it out in 4K. You know? I gotta get that too
Jacob Davidson:everybody's putting it out on 4K
James Jay Edwards:none of this compares to The Thing though. Don't you still have the most copies of the thing?
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I only have four copies of Rollerball Thank you very much and
Jacob Davidson:only four
Jonathan Correia:Yes, I do have seven different versions of The Thing but let's stop judging Correia for a minute. Jacob the archive
James Jay Edwards:I've told you how many copies of Night of the Living Dead I have.
Jonathan Correia:That one's an easy one to fall into. Although you can get rid of most of them and just keep it 4K From Criterion.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, now that I have the Criterion and the others just kind of sit there.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, maybe keep like one really shitty copy for the nostalgia and keep a colorized version. Yeah.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, it's not getting bootleged so much these days. But yeah, while I was there I was I got the Terrorvision release of Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night 2 the soundtrack on vinyl for really cheap. Let's see I also got the Halloween/Christmas episodes of Beavis and Butthead on DVD. Buttoween. And yeah, and also I got I got The Taking of Tiger Mountain that Bill Paxton arthouse movie.
Jonathan Correia:That's the one where you see is peen right? Yeah,
James Jay Edwards:I was gonna say you see Bill Paxton's Dong
Jacob Davidson:as a quote. Troy McClure and now what you all came here to see hardcore nudity. And on actual straight up horror movies I've seen recently before I left I did get
to see the MEG 2:The Trench in 3D. Oh, what do you think that movie kicked ass! I don't see why so many people were dunking on it because you know it's like it felt like in line with like Deep Rising or something like that. It's very much a kind of throwbacky kind of 90s style action or movie and I mean we got we didn't just get Megalodons and we got like a giant squid. We got like those amphibious iguanadon things and giant crabs. So it's like I was dug it. I was into it.
Jonathan Correia:See, Lindsey and I went to the premiere which because because of the strikes, they're they're changing it up and with that one they had it like on the water and they had food trucks and stuff for everyone but we had which was awesome, but we had to leave halfway through because I had to go to Shrek Rave which you know, can't miss Shrek Rave that was like a religious experience hearing all the different EDM versions of you know All Star
Jacob Davidson:I can only imagine
Jonathan Correia:but it was a lot of fun I've been meaning to go back and see it I was gonna try to see it in 4DX but they only had it in 3D 4DX and that's too many Ds I'm sorry. Like what are the other like they're both gonna make me nauseous I don't need two things making me nauseous all right,
Jacob Davidson:but double your nausea double your fun.
Jonathan Correia:No, no, no that's not how that works at all Jacob.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, either way I you know, you get to see Jason Statham from trying to harpoon a 60 foot shark like that. That's cinema on a jetski that to me, is it
James Jay Edwards:I'ma tell you where my mind is when we were talking about Bill Paxton, when you started saying you get to see Jason Statham. I was like Jason's Statham. What? No.
Jacob Davidson:Get your mind out of the gutter James.
Jonathan Correia:Well, actually perfect segue. If we're going to talk about male nudity, I just watched this this morning, actually right before we recorded this new movie called Swallowed that came out earlier this year. Yeah. How's that for a segue boys? Swallowed is
Jacob Davidson:Your segues are undefeatable.
James Jay Edwards:I'm like how's that for a title? What's this about?
Jonathan Correia:Oh, sweetie, so it's it's one of the new
James Jay Edwards:I'm checking explicit language on this episode already. So let us
Jonathan Correia:Well we always do that because one of these assholes always is swearing. No
James Jay Edwards:Which asshole is that oh, wait a minute. I just,
Jonathan Correia:It's me. It's me. Hi, I'm the problem. It's me. So it's it's one of the new films from Carter Smith, who did The Ruins and his other new film The Passenger also came out but one was a bit cheaper to read so that that's that was my decision making with that between those two, but Swallowed is really good. It follows this young man who's about to move from like Maine to LA to become a gay porn star. And so his best friend as like a going away present tries to get him some extra money to be able to make the trip and the only way you can do that is by transporting drugs across the Canadian to American border which doesn't go well so they have to swallow the drugs right and get them out later.
James Jay Edwards:Thats not what I thought this movie is going to be about
Jonathan Correia:it's it's it's a bit there you know Carter Smith, you know, with The Ruins was very, The Ruins was very body horror and Swallowed is that too but like, in a very different way. I don't want to spoil too too much. But basically, the best friend who swallowed more of them gets punched and it kind of activates what's in his stomach.
James Jay Edwards:It'll break the balloon. Yeah, that's the big issue with swallowing balloons of drugs. Yeah. Not that I have any practical experience with that. But um, we're not
Jonathan Correia:admitting anything on a recorded line. But also, is it drugs is it not? What is it it's actually really creepy what it is, but yeah, it's got Jenna Malone is is kind of like the drug runner that gets them into it. And it's Cooper Coach and Jose Colan and are the two best friends that go on this journey. And about halfway to like two thirds into it. Mark Patton from Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge pops up as the the like gangster who's in charge of the operation and he is fucking awesome. He's just he's he's just this big fabulous gangster. At one point he says the line you've done cocktease the wrong fucking Queen while chasing someone through the woods. It's it's great. But yes, Swallowed it's very solid, very uncomfortable with some of its body horror moments. Very good. There is and if if you are looking for an elbow to nudity. There is a bit and it's great. Because yeah, dude release the peen. Like I think people are being too prudish and not showing that stuff. So. But yeah, Swallowed. It's available to rent now on VOD. It's really solid. Also, The Passenger is too. I think that one went on to MGM+, but who who? Who remembers that? That's the thing.
Jacob Davidson:I didn't. Yeah, exactly.
Jonathan Correia:And then to beat Jacob, I went to some repertory screenings this week. Real quick, I did the Rifftrax Live for RAD, which was my first RifftraX Live event. I've seen them streamed but never went to a live event and boy howdy was a great seeing RAD with some commentary and you know the Rifftrax boys did not let Laurie Loughlin off easy. Yeah, there's I forgot that there was a great moment in RAD where she flat out tell someone. Oh, well, my friend did took a year off from college and then went and they're like, Oh, yes. Always go to Lori Loughlin for college admission advice. Yeah, it was a it was really good. And then we went and saw Kill Bill Volume One and Two at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, which was great seeing with the crowd, especially since the crowd was cheering every time at the beginning of Kill Bill Vol. 1 every time someone's name came up. You know, Uma Thurman Yeah! Lucy Liu. Yeah! And then it goes executive produced by the Weinstein's BOOOOO! Like the loudest boos It was phenomenal and what was what made a I will say if you're able to go see something at the Hollywood Cemetery, it's great. You know, it's a fun venue you get to bring your own chairs and stuff. Maybe the if there's something with subtitles that might be hard because there's a lot of people's heads in the way a little bit. But it's so much fun especially with that one. They had like an hour long dance break, which was great to take a nap and be ready for to stay up for volume two. And, and of course, because we were at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, we got to visit my girl Estelle Getty on the way out, which is nice because if you're walking in hers is like behind a row of shrubbery, but her tombstone pokes out over the top of the shrubbery. So it says so you can see Getty. So it's almost like you know, it's almost like she's Sophie little Sophia is poking her head up, go. And don't forget to say hi.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. And also speaking of horror movies that came out earlier this year, I actually managed to see Joe Lo Truglio's Outpost while I was flying in into the East Coast. That did he do you guys see it?
Jonathan Correia:No. That sounds dope though.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, it was solid. Like I remember reading about it in Fangoria. And it's pretty interesting, because it's basically about this woman who was attacked by her boyfriend. And during her recovery process she decides to go to I think it's Iowa. And she takes a job as a Outpost tapton Where you know, like you're in a fire outpost to look into the forest and make sure there aren't any fires. And she's dealing with that trauma, while also just kind of isolated. So, you know, only a matter of time before shit starts to get weird up in the mountain. Also, Dylan Baker's in it, perennial character, actor favorite Dylan Baker. And he plays kind of this gruff, isolated outdoorsman who lives in a cabin, like next to next to her outpost. And she has these kinds of weird encounters with him and some other people. And it's real escalation. Like in Fangoria Truglio even said, like one of his biggest, biggest influences was The Shining, which definitely shows. But you know, like, again, I just love the trend of more comedian, or comedy oriented actors and writers getting into horror directing and filmmaking. So I mean, if I was pretty good for a first effort, and, you know, looking forward to what he does next,
James Jay Edwards:One thing that I saw that is from this year that I kind of caught up with, um, if you guys seen The Pope's Exorcist?
Jonathan Correia:Just the memes
James Jay Edwards:it's the thing is, it's not bad. It's Russell Crowe is is the Pope's exorcist. And he's he's sent to perform an exorcism. Alex Esso from Starry Eyes and all of the Flanagan miniseries, she's the mom of the exe- of the the kid that's possessed. The kid that is possessed is incredible. I don't know what the kid's name is. But the voice of the of the demon that's in the kid is Ralph Ineson from The Witch. And it's weird because it, it's pretty much a remake of The Exorcist. Except in the last act, it really, really goes places. But the thing is, it's like, it's so much more fun than then I kind of compare it subconsciously to Prey for the Devil, because it's, I don't know, they maybe they came out so close together. But it's so much more fun than Prey for the Devil. I mean, even though it's about an exorcism. It's just a lot more fun. And the other thing I saw, which will will, will close the opening part of the podcast with this. Have you guys seen Grizzly 2?
Jacob Davidson:No, I have not.
Jonathan Correia:No, because it's not a finished movie.
James Jay Edwards:It is not a finished movie. That's the funny thing, okay, they they shot this, and I use the I'm going pretty fast and loose with the term shot in 1983. And the thing is that kept ran out of money. So they kept having to stop shooting it or people were like putting in their own money or working for free or something. And this footage sat around for almost 40 years. And then someone finally finished it, quote, finished it in air quotes. And it is it again, it's not a finished movie. It's 75 minutes long, 74 minutes, and about 30 of it. But the whole thing is there in a national park where there's going to be this big rock concert. And of course, there's a bear on the loose. So there are people trying to kill the bear. But there's this huge us festival type of a concert happening that the bears heading for. And about 30 minutes of this 75 minutes or 74 minutes is just useless concert footage that is like it's like oh man, we've only got 20 minutes worth of actual movie here. Let's pad this. But the funniest thing about it is when I'm when I first hit play and I'm watching it. You know, the opening credits, it's all George Clooney. And I'm like that Vince McMahon meme where his head keeps blowing up with each thing. It's all George Clooney. Laura Dern, Charlie Sheen, and I'm like, Oh my God, this cast, all three of them die within the first three minutes. I know that I'm totally I'm spoiling. It's actually not three minutes, but they definitely die. Before the movie even gets rolling.
Jonathan Correia:Wasn't it Also, before they all became names too they were basically just extras in this movie.
James Jay Edwards:This was 1983 they weren't extras they were main characters. But this is before your George Clooney became George Clooney. I think you know, he was. This is pre ER, Laura Dern. You know, this might have even been pre Mask for her. Charlie Sheen. You know, he was kind of a child star. So he might have been doing like Lucas around this time. But yeah, none of them were who they are today. So Oh, my God, but anyway, yeah, Grizzly 2. It's it's nice and short. And the grizzly is actually kind of fun, because I heard that they use some footage of real bears. I heard those animatronic grizzly, but I'm not sure any of that's in there. Most of it looks like puppetry. So it is kind of a fun little creature feature. But oh my god. It's um, yeah, you're right. It's not a finished movie. As someone right someone totally forced it to finish it. Once Clooney, Dern and Sheen are dead. Louise Fletcher becomes like the big name in it, which is kind of weird. It's like, wait, you won an Oscar and you're in this?
Jonathan Correia:Hey, man, rents got to get paid one way or another?
James Jay Edwards:But But did it get paid? They kept running out of money. Did she get paid for this? That is true. Let's move on to our topic, which is near and dear to my heart, even though it was brought to us by Correia. Punk Rock in horror. Yes. And, basically, I mean, it's funny because punk rocks, especially in the 80s always kind of played like almost like a guest role in everything it was it was almost like a fad or a trend or like something that you know, Hey, look over there. There are punks. You know, it was it was something to look at kind of. So they always put them in, you know, like, you know, we're talking about Bill Paxton. In Terminator, you know, that he's the punk and Terminator who's speaking up pull backs to nudie ends up? Doesn't he end up giving Schwarzenegger his clothes? Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:well, not willingly. Well, and that's the thing too. One of the things that prompted is I finally got a copy of Destroy All Movies the complete guide to punks on film. And one of the things that they make a really good point of in the beginning of it is yes, the fad, right, because who's making movies? Right? It's Hollywood. It's people with money, who doesn't have money? Punks. So a lot of punk representation in films is not made by punks. So when you do have people showing up like Bill Paxton as a punk in Terminator or something, it's it's a caricature of it. And that's and that's the part of like, exploring representation of punk and film interests me is how much of it is like good representation of the culture, or how much of it is characterized as as a cartoon characterization of it, right? Because how many times is there something where it's like, oh, yeah, that person's bad. Look at their giant green Mohawk. Yeah, yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. Without that we wouldn't have the amazing bit in Star Trek 4 yes, we're going back to Star Trek, where it's a guy where it's the punk on the bus, and he has the boombox, and he's playing the song that says, I hate this. I hate that. And Spock knocks him out great, great stuff.
Jacob Davidson:And I've already applauded him for it. But ya know, punk and horror I feel like really go hand in hand, especially within one of the biggest eras for both in the 80s because, you know, you got a lot of horror inspired lyrics and a lot of punk music and you get a lot of punks in a lot of horror movies. So you know, it's like a Venn diagram, or just straight up circle.
Jonathan Correia:One of the best ones out there. I mean, like, if, if we're going to talk about definitive like representation of punk in film, where it's in a horror film where it's both like, you got you got a little bit of everything, you got the cartoon characters, but you got it and it's actually like a part of it because so many times, especially in this book, it's like, oh, yeah, in this movie, there's guy with a green Mohawk. Right? Return of the Living Dead is I think the like definitive. Like, everything about it, whether it's the characters or just even the story and how things play out. It's punk rock as fuck. Because it's just about like, going against the system. There's there's references, pop culture references across the board, even at the very beginning, you know, that movie Night of Living Dead? Well, it wasn't. It wasn't a fiction, you know. And, and, and just the nihilism with it with Trash. You know, you ever think about death?
James Jay Edwards:The punks in Return Living Dead were kind of caricatures. So it like you're saying it's kind of like I mean, the ideas were there, but the way they look and stuff and I my favorite part of that it's like kind of the quote it's a quote that sums up punk rock in general when trash is rubbing all up and down on I don't remember the character's name. Yeah, Suicide and and he's all what do you think is a costume? It is a way of life. Show some respect for the dead and she's I like it spooky she's
Jonathan Correia:but but that's what's great is like, it's it's fine. It does both right it uses the caricatures of that time, especially by that time because like Hollywood start throwing the you know, punks in movies not knowing anything about the culture or anything. They're just like, literally, he's literally spooky looking guys and like, ya know,
Jacob Davidson:that's the genius of the movie to me with Dan O'Bannon is that, you know, he updated it for you know, the time because, you know, Night of the Living Dead was his knee the original Night of the Living Dead it was kind of like a group of average people. And he he did that for 85 where it's like, you know, punks really big. So he figured you know a lot of kids are in the punk so why not have a zombie movie with a bunch of punks? And yeah, no, and they are like, I mean, they're not you know that deep, but at the same time, they're not one dimensional either. Like they're just a bunch of kids just trying to have fun.
James Jay Edwards:I think they're actually pretty well written. I think it's the it's whoever costume that movie that made it a caricature, you know, although you know to their credit they did just get instead of giving Linnea Quigley a green Mohawk they just gave her you know, short purple hair.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, icon icon.
Jacob Davidson:And Miguel A. Núñez as Spider was always one of my favorites. Just yeah. And responding to her like you ever fantasize about dying, hes like I try not to.
Jonathan Correia:like his face just absolutely reads the fuck did you just say? That's not normal? I mean, it's not horror, but I mean Repo Man. I think if you're looking for like fiction that captures the aesthetic and and culture really well. It's it's Repo Man and Suburbia. Hands down. I mean, those movies were made by people who were in the culture were part of it and represented it well. I mean, it was especially I mean Suburbia that the entire cast was a bunch of gutter punks anyway, so I mean, how could you not and then Repo Man, you know Alex Cox. Somehow like it is funny when you get like Penelope Spheeris who says I can make I can teach punks How to Act can't teach actors how to be punk
James Jay Edwards:how to be punk. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:and then Alex Cox goes Emilio Estevez, come on Challenge accepted. Let's do this bud
James Jay Edwards:I think the best representative of modern punk rock in movies Green Room not so much the Nazi part I think the Nazi part would probably not be as sneaky if Nazis are going to beat the shit out of someone. I think they would just swarm them you know? But um, but as far as the touring band goes the Ain't Rights that's pretty much you know what touring in a band is
Jonathan Correia:I was gonna say was that a bit too accurate with the with the sleeping of the on the guys floor and stuff like that. Siphoning gas and all that
James Jay Edwards:We never stole any gas. We never did the siphoning gas thing. But But yeah, the everybody piled in a van crashed on people's floors showing up and having the show either suck or be canceled. We never played a place quite like that. There is a place of in all places up in Fallbrook, which is a little north of San Diego but that's like supposedly like the Metzker KKK capital. That would get kind of scary at times. But there were also a bunch of cool kids up there that so it it was always kind of half and half you know, and the cool kids would police the the Nazis kind of a thing. So it was kind of cool. The guy who owned the place was kind of an ass. I never configured out what side of the fence he fell on. But the kids up there were awesome.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah. And when it comes to punks in horror, especially in more modern films, the one that comes immediately to mind would be Jen Wexler's The Ranger. Like you guys saw that, right? Yes. Yeah, I thought that, that I thought that was a great example. Especially because, you know, it's very much a throwback movie because I think it's a period film set in the 80s. Where, you know, it's like a group of punks escaped from like a raid on a punk show, and they stabbed a cop so they gotta hide out in the woods. And there's this psycho park ranger going around killing everybody. Yeah, and it's like Return of the Living Dead. You know, they got a pretty cool kind of crew of punks together as our lead characters. And it's the ultimate you know, like punk versus authority thing because it's this. Yeah, this psycho Ranger who's obsessed with rules fighting these anarchists punks,
Jonathan Correia:the Ranger is fantastic, even just as like a modern slasher ad-adaptation like, and that's and that's one of the things about the book Destroy All Movies is they stopped at before the 2000s with the representation. So they miss out on those titles and it's and it's a few years out of print too. So I think it came up before The Ranger. So unfortunately, that wasn't added there. But another iconic cartoon representation but even when it's like cartoon, I still feel like if the film has the attitude of punk, it's okay. And that's Class of 1984 Because those guys are cartoonish as fuck, in that
James Jay Edwards:They're not really that cartoonish. Like there's no there's no Mohawks at least in the regular gang, but the way they act Absolutely. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:Its definitely playing into the Reagan era fears of the next generation. And then like these out of control youths are just going to go around, you know, just killing and stealing and attacking everybody.
James Jay Edwards:That's the thing it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be a warning. You know, at the beginning, it's like, oh, this is where we're headed. You know, so because they're in the early 80s There was a time when people were afraid of punks. And it was going to you know, it was heading toward this and the punks in Class of 1984 Are their drug dealers and you know, they're violent, they beat the crap out of people. But that part is is cartoonish. But also what's not the is the the teacher basically finds out that the leader of these punks is actually really talented musician, you know. And so that's kind of your Quincy moment, I guess, you know, your CHIPs moment, you know, were they misunderstood punk. But I don't think he was misunderstood. I just think he happened to be a talented musician who was a little crazy.
Jonathan Correia:But I mean, and it is interesting, too, because especially if you look at the at the sequel, Class of 1990 I believe it is
Jacob Davidson:Class of 1999
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, 1999.
Jonathan Correia:I was off by a few years. But the shift in fear becomes less about, like the kids being violent, and it's more the response to the, the, the violence of youth, right, because the and that one, it's the teachers are all like cyber cyborg robots that were originally made by the military. And so they get triggered and turned and become killing machines against them. And yeah, that was part of Pam Greer's resurgence because she was getting back to good health and so she started doing a lot of movies like that before Jackie Brown.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, and I love that, like New Wave Stacy Keach is the one behind it. Like he's got the like that bleached white hair and the ponytail and he's like, you know, this is the proper response to the youth and yeah, even though the the high schoolers are in gangs and stuff like they release military war androids on them, so and so the punks are actually the heroes now,
James Jay Edwards:it was made in 1990 Correia.
Jonathan Correia:That's why
James Jay Edwards:but it was a futuristic look at 1999 with the cyborg teachers. Which, man remember those cyborg teachers in 1999?
Jonathan Correia:Oh, yeah, remember? Oh, don't even get me started about the substitute cyborg teachers like in Class of
1999 2:The Substitute.
James Jay Edwards:Isn't Soylent Green takes place in 2023. So why aren't we people yet?
Jacob Davidson:Give it time.
Jonathan Correia:I have been saying that. For years.
James Jay Edwards:It's only August give it time
Jonathan Correia:I mean, we've gotten a few examples politically on why we should be putting in some Soylent Green initiatives of at least putting age gaps or age restrictions on our politicians. But let's not get political here.
Jacob Davidson:And back on the more cartoonish side of punk representation in in horror movies, was one particular example that comes to mind and going off a Class of 1984 would be the Class of Nuke'em High movies would go hand in hand with a lot of Troma movies, because there were a lot of punks and a lot of Troma films and they'd like played them up to the most absurd possible degrees because yeah, like in class or Class of Nuke'em High they're straight up mutants. Yeah, and you know, just going around killing people and like, it wasn't like they used to be the chess club and they got irradiated and they became like psycho punks
Jonathan Correia:Psycho mutant punks? Yeah, it's great. I mean Troma I'd say is like, as like as like a studio is probably the ones that are like the most hard in that going hard on the cartoonish side of like representation of punk I mean, you got Class of Nuke'em High series you got Surf Nazis Must Die.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Even like Yeah, but I would say like my mentality was, they are punk rock, as fuck they're they're super low budget. It's all about like being working together like they really cultivate like a family. If you've ever worked on something that's Troma everyone feels like a family member and it's contributing even though there's like little or no money in it. I mean, everyone calls Lloyd Kaufmann Uncle Lloydy, you know,
James Jay Edwards:I mean, Lloyd is probably not making a shit ton of money on all these movies, either. He's probably existing because he makes so many of them
Jonathan Correia:and acquires and distributes Yeah, yeah. And it's great that they that spirit is kept alive across all of them because I get even even the first big hit Toxic Avenger has you know, punks in it and stuff. And yeah, just the the over the topness, but they're always taking care of each other. Those are very safe sets that Lloyd runs, there's no money but and the money is all there on screen. But they're very safe. They take care of each other very well. So yeah, but yeah, Class of Nuke'em High. There's, I always love that that they mutate into punk rock anarchism
James Jay Edwards:Troma is totally punk rock. I mean, like, Yeah, what about metal bands that are like considered punk rock, you know, like, like, it's the same kind of thing we were talking about with like Fear like, like Trick or Treat? Trick OR Treat.
Jacob Davidson:Or black roses
James Jay Edwards:or American Satan. Remember American Satan from from like, oh, maybe like, it was the Movie Pass days. But no Trick Or Treat came along at a time when, when the government and when I say the government, I mean Tipper Gore was trying to ban heavy metal lyrics and rap lyrics. So Trick Or Treat was kind of a direct response to that, you know, to the PMRC. And, you know, the backward messages and then summoning sandiacre The, it's like the evils of basically this movie made, quote, real. What the PMRC was afraid of is kind of making fun of and it's like, well, is this what's gonna happen is it's gonna happen. Yeah, you better put that warning label on or
Jacob Davidson:Tipper Gore was right. this is gonna happen.
James Jay Edwards:No
Jonathan Correia:well, he was right in also another movie that I think also the has a character that I think the most screen accurate fictional character in a horror movie to represent punk is Terry in The Gate, right? He's just this nerdy 14 year old who's like, angry. And so he expresses himself in the music that he listens to, and he does the playing the the record backwards and all that which opens the gate to hell and brings out the demons. But Terry's fucking fantastic. I love it. He's just like this little dweeby kid. But he he's, he feels empowered by his armor, putting on the vest with the patches and everything. And I think that's, that's pure. That's pure punk right there.
Jacob Davidson:And on a similar note, you know, I also like TerrorVision, from Full Moon that also featured some punks like there was a punk sister and her boyfriend. And they were kind of jerks. But you know, allso like they kind of help pitch in once the monster goes on a rampage and Full Moon and it's similar to Trump. I feel like full moon had a lot of punks in their movie, especially in the 80s Because there's also the two punk girls hitchhikers in Stuart Gordon's Dolls who were just kind of jerks.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, i was actually about to bring up Dolls Actually. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:If you guys see New Year's Evil,
Jonathan Correia:no
James Jay Edwards:New Year's Evil, is you got to see New Year's Evil Correia, you got to track it down somewhere.
Jacob Davidson:It's fun.
James Jay Edwards:It's awesome. But it's it basically is about like, like a Dick Clark rockin New Year's Eve party that's going on a New Year's Eve. But they count down every time zone and the killer kill someone at midnight in every time zone. And he's stalking the host of this of this, you know, new wave, punk rock, rock and Dick Clark's New Year's Eve thing, who is like some kind of radio DJ. And there are two bands that play in it. And one of them is called Made in Japan, which I they're just kind of more disposable. But there's another band called Shadow, who does the theme song to New Year's Eve plus, like four or five other songs in the movie. And they rock Shadow is like as good a reason as any to watch New Year's Evil. But there are a lot there are punks all over that just because you know, they're in the audience of this, you know, rocking out to Shadow and Made in Japan. And again, this was the early 80s. So it was kind of that cartoon look of it. But it also they were more friendly. It was more of a party time look of punks instead of like a Class of 1984 You know, we're gonna beat the crap out of you. You know, the guy who's doing the killing is not necessarily one of the punks, you know, right? They weren't villains they were it was almost like a gimmick like, Hey, this is what the punk scene looks like, which is not accurate at all. But you know, like the punks in Savage Streets, you know, you know, you don't have those guys walking around. Like that.
Jonathan Correia:Now, what about punks on screen like when because remember the 80s There's also it was also that period where a lot of musicians were popping up in movies and like small roles like you had one of the members of X in in Roadhouse or Anthony Kiedis and Point Break but the most most prolific pug actor I'd say is Lee Ving Lee Ving Yeah, yeah. What's What are your guys's favorite Lee Ving roles because for me it's of course Streets of Fire. I mean, him is Greer is the second most terrifying person in that movie after William Defoe. Like you can't you can't top William Defoe in a leather overalls screaming I'm gonna get you.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, I mean, that was a particular highlight. Although looking through. This wasn't really horror, but Lee Ving was also in the 1983 Allan Arkush rock comedy Get Crazy, which also had a pretty substantial punk representation. And yeah, I mean, that's a fun one. Because they I mean, it's basically a punk Airplane.
Jonathan Correia:Damn, I'll have to check that one out.
James Jay Edwards:He was the voice of the punk in American pop. That's true. But he was also he was the victim in Clue.
Jonathan Correia:That's right.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, he was Mr. Body
Jonathan Correia:Oh, shit. You know what? I just got that joke. That His name is Mr. Body
Jacob Davidson:You just got that?
Jonathan Correia:got that fucking Joke.
Jacob Davidson:And only, like 30 years.
James Jay Edwards:I had let me tell you, I may have told this story before. I it took me literally 20 years of listening like religiously to the Spinal Tap soundtrack to get the double meaning behind How Can I Leave This Behind and Big Bottom? I always thought he doesn't want to leave his girl behind. Yeah. How can you leave her behind? And then I'm like, wait a minute. That behind is what he doesn't want to leave? Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Right over the head.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, for those of you listening, Correia is doing the over the head side. It totally did for 20 years.
Jonathan Correia:Jesus, we're gonna we're gonna do a whole episode of like things we didn't get, double entendres. But yeah,
James Jay Edwards:just just back on to to John Doe, you know, in Roadhouse. He was also in Boogie Nights. The best movie ever. That's right, he was amber waves. Husband in the in the ex husband in the court scene where he's like, my wife is a porn star. John Doe had actually a pretty cool little acting career, you know, out you know, outside of X.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, he popped up in a lot of different things. And speaking of Roadhouse let's let's not forget to give a shout out RIP to Terry Funk.
James Jay Edwards:No
Jonathan Correia:who passed away recently, WWE legend, and of course, one of the best parts of Roadhouse and Over the Top,
James Jay Edwards:Over the Top, you know, I I want to bring this back to another movie that I talk about a lot, although I haven't lately, because it came out on Blu Ray and I don't have to. There was a punk band called The Sick Fucks in Alone in the Dark. And two of the members of the sick fucks actually invented Manic Panic hair dye, so they were influential on the modern punk scene.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, damn, I guess I have a reason another reason to finally watch Alone in the Dark which I still havent watched
James Jay Edwards:You have not watched Alone or New Years Evil dude double feature tonight dude,
Jonathan Correia:it's it I know. I as soon as you put up Alone in the Dark like fuck, Jay's gonna hate me. This is like the eighth time he's brought it up since the blu ray came out.
James Jay Edwards:I was gonna say it I know you own that blu ray right it's Shout Factory and own them all. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:I don't anymore I sold a few of them because I need to make room dude by it's it's getting bad in here man. It's getting bad.
James Jay Edwards:You know, I not even blu rays. I just need to get rid of like little gimmicky tchotchke things that I own. And so I need to have like, like a horror garage sale or, you know, open up an Etsy store for the crap that I have.
Jonathan Correia:Maybe we should do that. We should have an Eye On Horror garage sale one day.
Jacob Davidson:I'm sure we could clear a whole garage sale out
Jonathan Correia:that come on by get some.
Jacob Davidson:Get some knickknacks and curios.
Jonathan Correia:We have a few rampage water bottles leftover.
James Jay Edwards:We'll hire Restless Spirits to play it. But they'll only play Young Graves the whole time. Final Thoughts on Punk in horror? What do you got?
Jacob Davidson:Well, I think punk will never die and neither will horror. So I think those two genres will be intertwined forever and we'll be seeing more punks in horror again. Sooner or later.
James Jay Edwards:To paraphrase Colors, the punks in horror will never die. Just multiply. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:When it comes to punk representation and characterization and films, I am going to be misquote, a Scotsman I once met. When I was out in Scott when I was out in Scotland. One of them said, Have you ever seen Braveheart? I went Yes. And they're like that's, it's historically inaccurate, but we love it because it's a bunch of Scots killing Englishmen. Right. And I feel like and I feel like it's the same with with punks and film, like, it doesn't matter if we're miscategorized it doesn't matter. You know, if we're cartoonish things. What matters is do they fuck Shut up. Great. At least you got that part. Right.
James Jay Edwards:And a lot of time, they'll get the music, right. You know, like, like, even if they do look silly or something. They'll be blasting, you know, like a Fear song or a Misfits song or you know, or 45 Grave or whatever, you know, a lot of times you know they'll at least get that part right. So the punks you know even if they're like, Well, you know, I don't look like that. But fuck yeah, I want a Partty Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Hey, even Star Trek got it right with the music and they can't they cameod that guy in season two of Picard. He was on the bus and he had a beard. He had the boombox and then said of blasting. I hate this. I hate that it was I still hate this. I still hate that. And then Seven of Nine stepped up to him when he was like, I'll shut it off. I'll shut it off. I learned my lesson.
James Jay Edwards:Great. See, the same was the same character even.
Jonathan Correia:It was the same actor, like 40 years later. It's like the best part of season two, season two was very meh.
James Jay Edwards:That's the thing about a Green Room when they went into that Nazi place. They played Nazi Punks Fuck Off by Dead Kennedys. And you know, you think they're gonna get their asses kicked. But the Nazis were like, this isn't when the Nazis are trying to kill these guys by the way. You know, they actually the Nazis respected that they're like all All right, we you got? Yeah, to uh, yeah, totally. You got balls. Other shit happens where they're trying to kill. Or they're trying to get them.
Jacob Davidson:Either way. You should see Green Room, watch Green Room. It's a great movie.
James Jay Edwards:Correia has seen Green Room.
Jonathan Correia:Yes, many times. And I agree with Jay on the misrepresentation of Nazi Punks and just being there too organized in that movie. They're too organized. They're not that smart,
James Jay Edwards:even the ones and say like American History X where they are just as organized as that. There it was more. That's a little more realistic of, you know, they're not going to sneak up on you so much as they're just gonna walk up to your face, you know? And if
Jonathan Correia:you see a Nazi punk out there, kids remember, it's okay to punch them directly in the face. It's okay. They like to
Jacob Davidson:Punch Nazis!
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, they like to they like to let people know what they were and it's okay to punch people who do that
Jacob Davidson:Yep. Fuck the Nazis.
Jonathan Correia:here legally protected. Trust me, I'm a lawyer. No, I'm not
James Jay Edwards:I was gonna say I don't know if you're Plenty plenty to choose from. legally protected. But everyone else will have your back find a jury that'll convict you. Yeah, that is that isn't made up of Yeah, absolutely. Nazis, I guess. All right, cool. Well, let's let's get out of here. What is your favorite depiction of punk in in horror Well, there's so again there's so many moments where it's just movies or movies in general? You know, we didn't even get to Josie and the Pussycats But uh, yeah, let us know. You know we miss Grotesque which had a had a van full of punk sweetest a lot because like you said the 80s it was it was cool to put you know, Jason Takes Manhattan you know, knocking over the punks radio and turns around on the guise of oh, it's cool. It's cool. Yeah, you know, knock my shit over anytime. like a punk at a scene like Short Circuit 2 when Johnny it gets beat up by gang punks and bleeds oil like I mean there's little moments where they're just like in there for a moment and part of that was like we said part of it was the fear that went came with the misunderstanding because you know you're looking at you know, the punks that beat up Johnny Five it's like you know, a lot of times if they need someone threatening on the street Hey, let's get the guy with the green Mohawk. You know, not knowing that guy with a green Mohawk is not very threatening. Usually. That yeah, I'm not saying he's not a badass. I'm saying I would think a skinhead would be more threatening than a guy with a green Mohawk. Nazi skinhead. Those are just my ex- that's true Nazi skinhead. Because there are also Yeah, that actually their
Jonathan Correia:Actual skinheads are just want to listen to reggaeton and Jump around
James Jay Edwards:that's true Nazi skinheads. Anyway, let's get out of here. Our theme song is by Restless Spirits who are going to play our garage sale. But they're also playing in LA. Or what is it? September September 26. I think it's a Tuesday.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I'm still waiting for tickets to go live.
James Jay Edwards:So yeah, go go check them out. Our artwork is by Chris Fisher. So go check him out. You can find us on any of the socials at @EyeOnHorror or ihorror.com which is the site that brings us to you every two weeks and yeah, Stay punk. Fuck Shut up. Punch Nazis and I don't know what else you know,
Jonathan Correia:they Think about death. Remember, this is not a costume.
James Jay Edwards:It's a way of life.
Jonathan Correia:It's a way of life.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah. So yeah, stay stay punk. And we'll see in a couple of weeks. So for me, James Jay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson:I'm Jacob Davison,
Jonathan Correia:and I'm Jonathan Correia,
James Jay Edwards:Keep your Eye On Horror.
