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This week, the boys leave their houses for a bit as Jacob goes to Monsterpalooza, Correia goes to a Blasphameet, and Jay goes to the theater to review The Boogeyman. They then go back home to enjoy their new home release to find they are not up to snuff, leading to a discussion how insane it is to be living in the Golden Age of Physical Media and yet major studios are releasing hits on barebones disc or not even on 4K UHD. IT IS UNAMERICAN!
We also have reviews for Moon Garden (In theaters), Influencer (On Shudder), Victim/Suspect (On Netflix), Yellowjackets Sn 2 (On Showtime) and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse. Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!
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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com. This is Episode 107, otherwise known as season six, Episode Eight. I'm your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison, how you doing, Jacob?
Jacob Davidson:I'm doing well just My feet are killing me because I went to MonsterPalooza this weekend. So I did a whole lot of con walking. And I'll get more into the details on that in a bit
James Jay Edwards:yeah, I want to hear about monster palooza. But first let's let people know that your other other host is with us as well. Jon Correia, how you doing Correia.
Jonathan Correia:I just beat my face is burned to shit. I think I think my lips are sunburned at this point. But my nose took the brunt of it. As you guys can see. Well, the audience can't see because there's a podcast. But ya know, spent the weekend on a secluded island with no water, but filled with 1000s of seagulls. So you know, I was really living The Birds. And it was funny. The park ranger came by our campsite. We had five nesting gulls in her thing. And she said that they don't like like they're more aggressive towards the Rangers because I think they see the uniforms more often. And she was wearing green. And I didn't realize it but I was wearing a dinosaur mountain tees long sleeve shirt, which was similar coloring and yeah, do they were like, vicious towards me, Shat on me and stuff. But the irony is when she said that and they're like, Yeah, I don't think the seagullsl is like authority. And I was like hell yeah. Yeah, gulls. Fuck the establishment down with the patriarchy and matriarchy equal opportunity anarchism, you know, until I was at the brunt of it. But no, it was a good weekend I'm just very sunburned
James Jay Edwards:not a whole lot to come out since last time we talk one thing that has come out that I'm curious to see if you guys have seen it either you guys watch Influencer on Shudder
Jacob Davidson:No, not yet.
James Jay Edwards:It kind of fits into the island thing that you're talking about Correia because it's about a an influencer an Instagram influencer, who is traveling the globe, you know, she's like globe trotting, and she meets this other girl who I don't want to get too spoilery but she meets this other girl who takes her places. And it's hate that her social media takes you know, it takes center stage in places and you know, it's it's a it's a ride. It's a it's a fun little I thought it was pretty inventive for what the genre usually does with social media. So it was kind of cool. It's on Shudder, influencer. I figured you guys had seen it because it's kind of been there have been kind of a lot of like ads for it and stuff. So
Jacob Davidson:yeah, no, I mean, it's been on the front page for Shudder. I just haven't gotten the chance to see it. And yeah, I've been hearing good things. So I definitely have it on my watch list.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's worth watching.
Jonathan Correia:Is the message never go to a second location?
James Jay Edwards:That is one of the of the morals that you could that you could pull from it. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Never go to a second location. Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of movies recently. But we have been catching up on TV. We finally finished season two of Sweet Tooth. Have you guys been watching that show on Netflix at all?
Jacob Davidson:I watched season one. I haven't gotten around to Season Two yet. But I do want to finish that. I had
Jonathan Correia:to do a rewatch of the first season because I couldn't remember much. And I was very surprised on how much I did remember because it's been two years but yes, sweet tooth is very good. It's post apocalyptic where most of the world is taken out by this disease. But it also turns out has turned newborns into hybrids. So there's a lot of kids that are like half human like half skunk you follow this one kid named Gus who's half human half deer. And it's you know, a lot of like, figuring out like the new world but also like how it happened and it's really good. Check out sweet tooth it's phenomenal. We also finished yellow jackets. Did you guys
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, I finished season two.
James Jay Edwards:I'm halfway through I I made the mistake of watching it on demand on my cable system instead of going to Showtime Anytime. And they are literally weeks behind. They only have they have episodes one through four and six up on demand. What it's like yeah, they skipped five and they and they're behind by like four weeks anyway. I am only about halfway through it. So no spoilers but is it good?
Jonathan Correia:Absolutely no spoilers. And again, we've talked about the show on the show before about how much we'd love it. Season two is what I thought I was getting into with Season One.
James Jay Edwards:Already started that way you see you're seeing more of yeah it's crashed and you get to see the cannibalism aspect which is you horrifying
Jonathan Correia:Oh, Oh sweetie you don't know
James Jay Edwards:I probably don't I've yeah but it's
Jonathan Correia:it's so good it is and you know it Season Two made me appreciate season one even more because you know thinking going into the show that there was going to be so much of that weirdness so much of that cannibalism and then season one was like a build up to it laying down the bricks for it and then season two really seized it it's absolutely phenomenal the casting with the casting with season one is phenomenal. Season two takes it up a couple of notches because the actors they got to play adults, Van and Lottie are just absolute perfection
James Jay Edwards:is Van the goalie?
Jonathan Correia:The redhead,
James Jay Edwards:the goalie who had her face her face ripped up by the wolves. Yeah, she is the girl from Six Feet Under.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, the adult.
Jacob Davidson:I didnt even think about that.
James Jay Edwards:That is that's brilliant casting when they first introduced her I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that's perfect casting for that role. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:And she and she owns a video store I was crushing reall hard.
Jacob Davidson:LGBTQ friendly video store. Yes. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia:Oh, man. That's like one way to instantly steal my heart is be a lesbian that owns a video store. But it's, it's so good. And also Elijah Wood is just, he is just so perfect for pairing up with Christina Ricci.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, they have such chemistry. It's I was gonna say not just him alone, but pairing him with Christina Ricci is so great.
Jonathan Correia:And again, avoiding spoilers. I just have to say like when I say that he's perfect for the show. And he's perfect to be like matched with her. It's an understatement. It is. Yeah, Yellow Jackets just continues to be so fucking good. I can't recommend that show enough.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, it's the second season has been great. And I cannot wait for season three like it. Like I'm just I'm on pins and needles is waiting to see what happens next.
Jonathan Correia:Well, there's a bonus episode because season two was only nine episodes. So there is going to be an episode that comes out between seasons they just announced. So
James Jay Edwards:I also caught up to just to kind of piggyback on last episode, I caught up with The Boogeyman that Oh, I thought it was great. I thought it was awesome. It's weird because it if you read the original Stephen King short story, the short story is pretty much not even the first act it's like the first half of the first act of the movie. The short story is just like a guy going to see a psychiatrist telling him about this thing that killed his kids. And the movie uses that as a jumping off point to to venture into just all this Kinder trauma. You know, all of this, you know, boogeyman in the closet stuff, but I thought it was I thought it was brilliant. It's there use Rob savages use of light and darkness. Like because the boogey man has to stay in the dark. You know, he doesn't he can't get you if you're in the light. So they have all these different light sources that you know everything from Christmas lights to like video games screens they're using to ward off. Yeah, I thought it was and it has a lot of that same suspense that you got from like, Host, you know, he builds the suspense and there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of like, there are no cheap jump scares. And there aren't even a lot of jumpscares it's mostly just like you're biting your nails the whole time. I thought it was great, ya
Jacob Davidson:know, that I thought it was very effective. And, ya know, just the creature design the boogeyman particular where I thought was very impressive because, you know, boogeyman is such an ambiguous entity. You can do so many different ways about it. But yeah, without without spoiling it, I thought that it turned out really fucking creepy.
Jonathan Correia:That's really great to hear. Because, as you guys know, Host and Dashcam were really my vibe. So I'm really looking forward to like something completely different from him. And I'm happy to hear that like a lot of people were very happy with that adaptation because King adaptations can go hot or cold very quickly. So that's awesome that that was so well liked
James Jay Edwards:it's much more ambitious than Host and Dashcam it's not screen or in air quotes. So it's so it's not using you know, like the technology that Host and Dashcam did. You can tell it's got a bigger budget. It's got it actually speaking to Yellowjackets. The older daughter is Nat from Yellowjackets the younger NAT Oh Right, right right and the younger daughter is Princess Leia from Obi Wan Kenobi.
Jonathan Correia:So it was so good in that it
James Jay Edwards:she She's good in the boogeyman, too. She that she's got a bright future in front of her that little girl is good.
Jonathan Correia:You got me hyped and so many people shat on Obi Wan and, and Book of Fett but I I can't help but love though.
James Jay Edwards:She knows. I mean Obi Wan I was kind of lukewarm on Book of Fett I liked though. Which is weird because I think Boba Fett is The most useless character in the entire original trilogy.
Jonathan Correia:But he looks so cool
Jacob Davidson:that sometimes it's all you need.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, that's why they had their creative mythology around him. And I have not been on board with that mythology until Book a Boba Fett because they may I don't know, they, they, they were able to kind of retcon it. And I would I'm I'm on board now, which you know, that's saying a lot because I do think that he's the most, you know, all he does is lap up Vader's essence and then get thrown into a sarlacc pit, which I still think he died in the sarlacc pit, but book of Boba Fett shows you how he didn't? Well, it takes.
Jonathan Correia:It takes like what they say like 100 years or something to digest. So he had time,
James Jay Edwards:or 1000 He had time. And I guess his armor. His armor did take a beating in that in that pit.
Jacob Davidson:Right. Anyway. Yeah, so I'd see it. I've also seen this new horror movie recently. I'm not sure if you guys have heard of it. moon garden. You guys heard Moon Garden? Nah, man, it was great. I found out about through Alamo Drafthouse because they were doing a limited run screening. And it's amazing. It's basically about this. Imaginative five year old girl who's got these dysfunctional parents who argue a lot and she gets to an accident and falls into a coma. And she goes through like this weird kind of dream state where she's going through this dark industrial fantasy land. And she's being chased by this poor as speaking of this horrible boogeyman, and like a black leather coat is only like a void of a face with like a chattering set of teeth. And she has to journey through this fantastical world in order to try and wake up and be reunited with her family. And it's kind of a Lo Fi effort. And it's but it's really sucked you in. And it has like such an amazing mix of special effects and practical effects is like, a lot of the monsters and creatures are puppets. And there's a lot of people and like makeup and costumes, and there's stop motion and green screen and CGI and animation. So it just makes this like really interesting. Kind of, you know, kind of nightmare world, like I've described as kind of like Coraline by way of Pan's Labyrinth. And, ya know, I'm really glad I got to see it on the big screen because it is is a trip it is really endearing
Jonathan Correia:up to check that one. Oh, hopefully it's still playing at the draft house.
Jacob Davidson:I don't think it is, but I think it's going to be available VOD or digital. Relatively soon. Oh, yeah. So yeah, just keep an eye out for that. And back on other screenings. So Did anyone else see Across the Spider-verse?
James Jay Edwards:Yes, I did. I loved it.
Jonathan Correia:No. Oh,
James Jay Edwards:so good.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, no spoilers.
James Jay Edwards:Well, there's one thing that I think needs to be spoiled. It's a part one, it literally it there's going to be a Beyond the Spider-verse. Yeah, and originally
Jacob Davidson:Wars compared is Star Wars conversation. You know, like everybody's saying this is the Empire Strikes Back of Spider Man movies because then it's going to be Return of the Jedi next you know, it's like, yeah, you know, part one then part two,
James Jay Edwards:but when it and I remember thinking this one was happening, because it's about two hours and 20 minutes, and I remember thinking this when it's happening, I'm like, oh, we gotta be getting toward the end of this movie. How are they going to wrap this up? And then the next thing you know there is to be continued I'm like, That's how they're gonna. Yeah, but hey, we can always use more Spider-verse. I loved it I thought it was I mean, it's a lot like Into the Spider-verse in that it's it's like a moving comic book I mean it's it's the the backgrounds are like drawn like with that kind of like dot animation and the animation it looks like a moving comic book. And there are dozens of Spider-men you don't want to spoil you know what would you dare is happening in oil not
Jonathan Correia:know you go tell don't spoil the the different Spider Man's is because I successfully avoiding who's voicing Ben Riley and I if you spoil that for me right now, rage.
James Jay Edwards:I'm not I don't even know who's voicing all these Spider-men but it's funny though, because, like I said, there's dozens of Spider Man if not hundreds. There's tons of them. And each one of them is is like a different style animation because they're all from different universes. And as they're encountering them all. I remember thinking I'm like, You know what? There are some famous voices in there. Yeah, you know, I'm like there's you know, I wouldn't be surprised if if they brought in some some ringers do some some some special guest voices for it that you know, just bring him in for like a half an hour to voice this one. You know, Spider-Man.
Jonathan Correia:I do know that Ben right. Riley the the what is the
Jacob Davidson:Scarlet Spider
Jonathan Correia:Scarlet Spider who is a favorite of mine growing up. He's voiced by a I a heavy hitter. But I've been successfully avoiding that one. So that that's that's the one I've been playing close to the chest.
Jacob Davidson:I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I'm looking forward to I'm gonna see it this week.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, it was amazing. And as it touches on a lot of different animation, it also touches on a lot of different genres. You know, like, hits on so many different levels again, won't spoil anything, but there's even some horror in there.
Jonathan Correia:I did see in the trailer that they even had like, the PlayStation video game of spider man in the background and stuff and they have
James Jay Edwards:just about at one point, this isn't spoiling too much because you almost expect it. They have the 60 Spider Man he comes swinging in and you know, it plays the music. It's and that's the other thing. It has the sense of humor that you would expect from a Spider-Man movie, you know, because Spider-Man is kind of like a wise cracking you know, guy anyway. Yeah, it has the sense of humor that you expect from from a Spider Man-movie. So it's, it's awesome.
Jonathan Correia:But I mean it also like that first trailer they dropped where it's Mia Morales, his mother giving that speech of like, you know, your I still see you as my baby. So make sure you look out for yourself. Make sure you as Spider-Man look out for Miles, you know, like that. I'm tearing up right now just thinking about that speech. So I can't imagine like how that plays in and how good that's gonna be. I'm so excited. I did get a nice reminder where someone posted about the butterfly effect and that it was like one of those things, the definition of how a flutter from a butterfly's wings could change the course of everything. And they showed the picture of Donald Glover in a Spider Man pajamas in the season two opener of community. Yes. And how that kicked off the discussion of Donald Glover should be the next Spider-Man and they're like, well, we're not going that direction. We're going with Andrew Garfield, but then Marvel was like, You know what? Why don't we have a black spider-man and so they created Mil- Miles Morales because of that discussion. And now we have some of the best Spider Man movies made some of the best Spider Man comic books ever made. And hell I just beat Spider Man Miles Morales the other day and that was a great fucking video game. So like, yeah, flaps of a butterfly wing.
Jacob Davidson:And back at it, so I did go to MonsterPalooza this weekend over in Pasadena. And for those who don't know pass monster Palooza happens twice a year, it says big horror, sci fi fantasy and largely effects and makeup convention with like lots of monsters and vendors and memorabilia. And it's just one of my favorite things in in LA. You know, because it's really fun to go there and see all these incredible movie quality displays of masks and animatronics and monsters and stuff in person. And you get to see them apply the makeup and how they make the monsters for movies and shows and all that and just you know artists showing off their wares and talents. And one of my favorite parts is the MonsterPalooza museum where they put like some of the biggest and most impressive pieces and memorabilia and props on display like this year. They had the car from Cobra with a life size replica wax doll of Sylvester Stallone as Cobra.
Jonathan Correia:Jesus Christ. Are you kidding me? That's fucking awesome.
Jacob Davidson:Yes, it is. Yes, it is. That car is badass. Also, they had a giant Queen Alien head. And one of my favorites was somebody did a well I guess their imagination of what the Great Pumpkin from Charlie Brown looks like. And it's this giant pumpkin monster like reaching out of the pumpkin patch with like candy and stuff spilling all over the place. And there was also a Frankenstein's models model, where it's like one of those evil monster kids where you build and paint the monster, except it was Frankenstein's monster size. And also there were giant prop like pieces of glue and paint thinner and stuff next to it.
Jonathan Correia:And it's awesome.
Jacob Davidson:Ya know, again, it's just so much fun. And it's and I love going there too, because you know, just a good place to meet up with friends and walk about talk horror. Like I ran into so many familiar faces going for there. Also the dealer's rooms really fun. Like there's always like, cool, cool stuff I want to buy but I gotta hold myself back. Otherwise, I'm going to be emptying out my bank account. Like I did grab a couple of things like I got the Adventures of Baron Munchausen soundtrack on vinyl. I got a copy script of Abott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, and from Severin Films like I got Alien From the Abyss and the complete Comic Strip Presents
Jonathan Correia:That's awesome. Yeah, I need to go to Monster Palooza get I haven't been in years. Yeah, no, it's a
Jacob Davidson:good time. Like, it has everything monster kid would ever want really?
Jonathan Correia:I did. I Lindsey and I did go to something last weekend. It's called a Blasphemeet,
Jacob Davidson:A blasphemeet?
Jonathan Correia:A blasphemeet. It was presented as a blasphemous swap meet. And it was everything that a blasphemous goth kid would ever want. There was art. There was jewelry, there were T shirts, there was so many cool things. There were performers doing various shows. There was some adult shows there with that there was taxidermy it was it was such a great time. So much spooky, but everyone was so fucking nice. Like almost too nice. It was it was so much fun. We had such a blast. I got so much more, you know, satanic stuff for my apartment, which is great. I love it.
Jacob Davidson:What you'd get?
Jonathan Correia:I got this. It's like a it's like a wood burning piece that had it's got like a wizard skull hood. But it's from like a night the art is from a like a 1980s like fantasy calendar. And then it was so it was put onto the wood the wood was burned. And then it was resined over. So that's really cool. That's hanging in my office right now. And then I also got this really great painting. It's like a skull with like, it's like a skeleton with like a cow skull and there's like a skeleton of like a fetus in it. And it was the artists like her processing Roe v. Wade being taken back. It's a very beautiful art piece. I absolutely adore it. But yeah, it was it was such a cool thing. They're doing another thing in November, I highly recommend look up @blasphemeet on Instagram. They do some really cool stuff. It's just a dark art market ritual. And also, if you ever get one of their pamphlets that whoever does their type, man, do they know how to fucking sell it. It's silly, but it's great.
Jacob Davidson:All right now keep an eye out for that. Also, in terms of repertory screenings, last or two weeks ago, the New Bev had their 2000s terrorthon where they played four movies from the 2000s decade. And I thought it was gonna be interesting because you know, not a lot of people talk about the 2000s era of horror as much as they do like other eras. But there's still some pretty good horror movies from that time and the movies ended up being Urban Legends: Final Cut, Splinter, 30 Days of Night, and this one I hadn't seen before. Mindhunters
Jonathan Correia:that's a really great lineup.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, no, I thought it was solid. Yeah, like that's the thing too, like the the other movies I had seen, but not in a very very long time. Particularly I was surprised about Splinter because when I saw it, I just rent it on DVD because I didn't even know it had a theatrical run, especially one on film at the time. But that that one needs to be talked about more because you know, for kind of a Lo Fi effort, it has such amazing practical effects and such a good setup like it's it's really cool and forgotten how good 30 Days Of Night was. That is still one of the most brutal and really thrilling vampire movies of the last couple of decades.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I still need I need to give that a rewatch soon.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah Plus it's got Josh Hartnett
Jonathan Correia:we love a good JOSH HART net performance here at Eye On Horror.
Jacob Davidson:We sure do. And mine hunters was pretty fun and kind of like it was a post saw psychological death trap, horror thriller type of deal. But mostly LL Cool. J was the highlight of the movie because he had the best lines like minor spoiler, but what my favorite line of his was, I guess, I guess we found out what his weakness was bullets, which you don't even need to know the context. You just know that it's funny and badass.
Jonathan Correia:I have no context whatsoever. I've never seen this movie or really heard of it. And yeah, no, that's that's grade A line there.
James Jay Edwards:And don't sleep on Urban Legend Final Cut. Oh, yeah, no, no, I
Jacob Davidson:was just about to get to that.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, I love those Urban Legend movies.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, yeah. No, I yeah, it's been a while since I've visited that and you know, I have to you know, kind of think to compare to the original Urban Legends, but final cuts a lot of fun especially because it's very heavily in the post scream slasher boom because it's got kind of a bit of meta commentary because it's about these film school kids so they know all the film tropes and revolves around the urban ledger on campus and watching it now. I never realized how much of a giallo influence it has because like there's a black glove killer there's even kind of a throwback to like the glass guillotine killed from Inferno and I mean, the award in the movie like in the movie, they're trying to get this film award. It's called the Hitchcock award. So it is pretty evident. But yeah, it's a lot of fun and has some pretty good kills. And yeah, I mean, that's the thing, you know, just 80s. I feel like it's the most prominent of decades when it comes to horror discussions. But the 2000s really does have its own great lineup of film, so it's worth revisiting. Nice.
James Jay Edwards:Before we move on to our topic. I'm going to bring us down for a second. Because there's this true crime documentary on Netflix right now called Victim/Suspect. Have you guys seen it or heard about it? No. Oh, this will piss you off like Correia, you're saying that Bomb City, pissed you off. This will piss you off more basically Victim/Suspect is about. It's about all these women who report their rapes. You know, they go to the police or campus police or whoever and they report sexual assault. And because they it's like her word against his word. The police basically charged these women for filing a false police report, and these women ended up going to jail, because they can't do that proof. And it is infuriating. When you get into the it's a reporter from I forget the publication, but she's the one who is doing the documentary. And she took over a year to write this story. And this documentary goes along with it. So she investigated all these cases. And she got footage from the police departments of the investigations. And it's like, these women are being grilled. And then when they pull the guy in, it's just like a so it was consensual. Okay, cool. You're free to go. It's, it's like so it's infuriating. Anyway, if you're into true crime, and you want to get pissed off, Victim/Suspect on Netflix,
Jonathan Correia:listen, see Bomb City, I wasn't angry about it. It was definitely like a narrative interpretation of like, the real events like, especially if you know, like, you and I have discussed, Jay, that, you know, that's not the full story. That's not the true story. But at least like the stories get out there, that true crime thing I did see a trailer for it. And I was just like, I don't know if I can handle the amount of rage I will feel watching that. And I've been watching a lot of, especially on Paramount Paramount has had a lot of really good short documentaries on there, of docs that are just like, have filled me with rage recently, like I just watched the other day. I between the two of them, they were less than an hour. But there was one called Lynching
Postcards:Token of a Great Day, where it was all about the history of how of lynchings in America and how it corresponded with Kodak making its first commercial cameras. And so people would take pictures and then sell them as postcards. And people would buy those postcards like crazy to send to people it'd be like, I was there that day. And that, you know, that of course, like, enraged me. So of course, I followed it up with something, another doc called R.I.P T-Shirts, where it's all about how in certainly in like neighborhoods in Washington, DC, where there's a high level of drive by shootings, there's people will make Memorial T shirts, rest in peace T shirts they call them to commemorate the person's life, but also to help raise funds for the funeral and things of that nature. And they the doc follows this one photographer where he's like, yeah, no, that makes up 80% of my business, which like, is great for business. But I don't want to be making money off of something like this. Like, I I wish we weren't having to make this. But for a lot of these people, like that's all they have is are these shirts. And it happens a lot. They interview families where it was like their 12 or 13 year old that were shot and killed. They interview this 13 year old who got shot in the face when she was 11. And it's just like, Jesus. Yeah, that was a rough evening. Going from one to the other. But, man. Yeah, I don't that that that series A that you brought up? Jay sounds very important. Very good. I don't know if I can handle. Because I've met I've met women and people who have gone through that. And
James Jay Edwards:the good news is it's not a series it is just a movie. So it's an hour and a half. You don't have to put up with you know, six episodes of it drawn out. Yeah, yeah. But um, but yeah, it's infuriating. It's, I mean, these poor women and they go through, you know, where like, there's one case in particular where the the, they basically get the the woman's charges expunged because they found so much malfeasance on the part of the police and the police. They they totally botched the case and they but they won't talk to the documentary crew through and finally the all they do is they send some this frickin CC footage that totally backs up the victim story. You're like, Are you kidding me? What you know and and and the the legal team is like I've never seen this footage before they didn't supply this. It's uh yeah, it's infuriating.
Jonathan Correia:Our judicial and medical system here in America is fucked
James Jay Edwards:one of the women got charged with tampering with evidence because she got her rape kit done. It's like, how is that tampering with evidence that that is building it? Oh, yeah, I'm getting pissed. Just think about it. But yeah. Oh, and you're right. Here's the thing about our judicial system. And I'm going on my soapbox for a second Fast Forward 30 seconds. If you don't want to hear me go on my soapbox. our judicial system is not built on justice. It's built on convictions. It's built people are building careers on beating the other team. So they're not interested in finding the truth. They're interested in winning their case. And that's what pisses me off so much about the West Memphis Three case that you know, that they had to they had to sign an Alford plea to get out because the offer plea is a guilty verdict. And so they got out of jail after like 18 years. But the fact that
Jonathan Correia:they had to admit it,
James Jay Edwards:yeah, but the fact the fact that it's that they admitted to guilt means the case is closed, and someone got away with killing these three little boys, because the case is closed. And granted, the case is so cold that they probably would never solve anyway. But the fact that the police think it's solved, and that's because so many
Jacob Davidson:saw they're just covering their asses. Yeah, yeah.
James Jay Edwards:solved in air quotes. The official case is solved. And it's because so many people have built careers on this case. You know, the these lawyers and judges have all gone on into politics. And you know, you don't want to turn around and say, oh, yeah, the case that I built my career on. I was wrong.
Jonathan Correia:Way more than wrong, way more than wrong just like completely destroyed lives and threw people under the bus. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:And I spent 18 years defending my wrong position. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm off my soapbox now. And we're gonna move on to our more lighthearted topic, which I'm going to let Korea introduced because I'm not 100% sure I understood the assignment. But he's also got a little rant of his own that he's gonna
Jonathan Correia:Yes, introduce it so take
James Jay Edwards:it away Correia.
Jonathan Correia:Give me a moment to calm the fuck down after that. You got me riled up, man.
Jacob Davidson:Yeah, right. It was probably not the best transitional piece
Jonathan Correia:you know what the rest of this podcast we're gonna go take down the system. Let's let's let's change gears completely.
James Jay Edwards:Its still something you're passionate about. So I got you worked up for a reason
Jonathan Correia:I'm gonna I'm gonna get worked up in a in a different way. But I'll be worked up but not passionate as passionately. But no. So we here at Eye On Horror, love physical media. I think that that's pretty damn evident. In what five years of doing this fucking podcast that we love physical media. We love taking home and holding the things that we love, which is art, whether it be records, blu rays, DVDs, 4K's, cassettes, A tracks, posters, we, I think the three of us border on hoarding, in some cases me put in particular. So I wanted to discuss today, special features and and home releases because we're living in the golden age of home video for undiscovered past, right. A lot of movies that would never get a home release are not only getting home releases, they're getting gorgeous home releases. We're seeing beautiful work from Severin, from Vinegar Syndrome, criterion, Arrow Video, the list goes on from all these distributors that are doing amazing work, giving films that might have never seen the light of day or seen the day again, suddenly getting stunning releases jam packed with special features. But we're not getting that with our with the main releases. I've been we've been seeing this trend happening over and over again. were brand new movies that were you know just got out of the box office aren't even getting 4k releases. And if they so it's bare bones. This has been sparked because I saw a tweet where someone said that the home release for Evil Dead Rise barely gets a 4k and it has almost no special features on it. Which is insane to me to think because I don't know about you guys, but I've owned about a dozen different versions, the original Evil Dead trilogy and and the 2014 version. I've owned at least three copies of each film at any one point in my life and to think that the latest one has a bare bones release is insane, but it's happening a lot.
James Jay Edwards:it doesn't make sense because there are people who will want to talk about it like all On the cast and crew, yeah, it's like, at least give a commentary maybe some behind the scenes because people love talking about these Evil Dead movies, the new one included.
Jonathan Correia:The actors for Evil Dead Rise have been blowing up with behind the scenes photos and videos and talking about their experiences on social media. It's been really great seeing how much fun they've had on it. Why isn't that on disk? Like why is it that these major these major studios are kind of giving up on on home video and it's, it's it's a bigger thing, right. And it's not just like the special features, but they're also not getting 4k releases. Cocaine Bear only got a Blu ray release here in the US, which it did have a lot of features on it. I'll give it that. But the UK got a 4k disc for it, which blows my mind. A cocaine bear is one of the most American films ever made. If there's anything that says America, or at least feeding into the idealism that makes America great, you know, and the beauty of what it is it's Cocaine Bear. Why don't we have the best picture quality possible on disk for such a patriotic and beautiful representation of us as a nation? Why does England get it?
James Jay Edwards:I want this could be the blurb for this episode. And nothing says America like a bear on cocaine.
Jonathan Correia:Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong fuck images of John Wayne. It's a bear on cocaine that stands for America. So why the fuck does England get a 4k disc? Why do I have to import a 4k disc from fucking England for Cocaine Bear? That's ridiculous. But we're seeing it a lot. I as I said we're living in this golden age. Where Showgirls is getting an amazing 4k release from Vinegar Syndrome. They just put out Roadhouse on 4k Severin is putting out amazing Argento films which remember how hard it was to get Argento films back in the day. It wasn't until Anchor Bay started putting them out that we that they really started popping off and now we're getting them in 4K It's so incredible and yet universal Sony's doing a bit better but like so many of them are just dropping the ball and we're also seeing it in the retail space Target, Walmart, BestBuy, all these places are reducing the amount of floor space that home video is getting. Granted, you can still buy stuff online, but man, what I this is not to be nostalgic. And I'm definitely not going to be nostalgic for Blockbuster because fuck Blockbuster. But just walking down the aisles and going man, hey, this movie is reduced by$7. What's the back of it? That sounds insane. You know what I mean? That's different than reading it online. I don't maybe maybe it's. Maybe I'm getting old. But I think I think our home videos deserve better here in the US. And so that was my rant for you guys. I was gonna wait till later, but you got me so riled up. You might as well just go to the rant. But instead of just bitching, I want to ask you guys, what are some of your favorite special features like do you have? I know, I've recently talked about how the Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. Our features, like behind the scenes is one of my favorite special features to be released recently. But what's what's the specific one from a release that you guys love?
James Jay Edwards:I have one that I have loved. And it was on the VHS and the DVD. I don't know if it's on the blu ray because I don't have the blu ray but on Book of Shadows Blair Witch 2 Yes, I'm going to talk about which two again, god dammit this, it was almost like a game it was called The Secret of Esrever, which you know, anybody can see that as rivers reverse backwards. But in the movie, certain scenes were were shot differently or they digitally edited them to have little like code words in them. And it was like a game you could play while watching and you could you you would figure out these different code words and you you would Descramble this game and you play the video in reverse. And it took you to a website that's probably not there anymore, but it was this cool little game that you could play to get more bonus content it was it you know, but it didn't just give them to you on the disk you had to work for them. And some of it was frustrating because some of the like I remember one of the one of the secret words was on le t equals grave when the goth girl was laying on it, you know? You know some of them were that obvious but other ones were like hidden in the water in places and you know, it's a that was one of my favorites and I don't know if it's on the blu ray but it's it's it was on the VHS and so on the old DVD
Jacob Davidson:going off of that one of my other favorite DVD or Blu Ray bonus features is from The Blair Witch Project. The Curse of the Blair Witch remember the documentary they put on the Sci Fi Channel coincide with where Witch Project release? Oh yeah. is like a mockumentary style program.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I still have my 2pk on VHS of The Blair Witch Project with The Curse of the Blair Witch
Jacob Davidson:Me too! But ya know, just it really adds a lot of context to the movie. And I'm just always a big fan of kind of mockumentary style horror, and just kind of additional materials that boost and you know, like, add a foundation to the to the story. Because, yeah, it does go deeper into the lore of the Blair Witch, and you know, a lot of the history and I was I just really like, faux mockumentary stuff. So that's always been a personal favorite of mine,
James Jay Edwards:The Blair Witch Project I have, I've said it before, I'll say it again, it is probably the most influential movie in modern horror history. Because if you think about it, without the Blair Witch Project, there would have been actually I shouldn't say without it being as successful as it was, there would be I mean, think of all the found footage we have these days, you know, and granted, 95% of it is really bad. But it showed people that you can do this. And the thing with the Blair Witch Project is if you watch it just as a movie itself, it, you know, it has a couple of creepy parts, but it's not that scary. It's only scary when you put that context in. And the filmmakers realize that and that's why they came up with that documentary thing. And that's why they're the website was there, you know, they had without the mythology, the movie is just three people getting lost in the woods. So that's why that is such an important special feature, because especially looking at it 25 years later, almost 2524. Now, you know, and now that I don't even think the websites there anymore, you need that context to get the full effect of a movie,
Jonathan Correia:100%. And that's one of the cool things like DVD and blu ray menus blew up, right? Yeah. And there would be so many cool ways of like, incorporating I remember the three disc DVD for Hellboy had all these special features, like so much delving into the world and the process. And like for a lot of my generation that was our first film school where all the special features were you get to see from start to finish on like how it was made. But then those Hellboy ones had all these little hidden ones. So when you're going through the menu, if you press up all sudden, you'll see like one of the background characters eyes light up, and you click on it, and it's a cot and it's like it one of them was like it was it was Hellboy having pancakes for the first time. It was one of the original comic books, and it was Professor boom, or Broom being like, Oh yeah, no, you gotta eat it, you'll like and he's like, No, I don't want to eat it. No, try it and like he's fighting him and he finally eats it. And then it goes, meanwhile in hell. And there's some demons go, no Hellboy ate pancakes. We'll never get back. He's too far gone. You know, just having those little easter eggs for those little communicates is great. But like learning the process learning the mythos is so cool. really gets into that. And then like they or like, if you clicked on like another character's thing, it would be like one of the cartoons that Hellboy had on one of his many TVs like Gerald McBoing-Boing, which was so weird. And it's also just because I'm going to bring it up again. The Empty Man was one of the most like, fun films I saw in 2020. And it's so good. And the director used to make he won awards for making DVD menus, like he won prestigious awards in that community for it. And his first feature film doesn't even get a fucking home video release outside of a DVD through Redbox. That's insane.
Jacob Davidson:That's ridiculous.
James Jay Edwards:Speaking of a DVD menus, that's another one of my favorite special features is um, do you guys remember the limited edition Memento DVD?
Jacob Davidson:No, I didn't, I didn't rent that the menu.
James Jay Edwards:The menu you kind of had to solve a game to watch the movie, what the menu it when you put the disc in, it would show you a list of words that you had to like, remember, and then the menu had all these words. And some of them were there. Some of them weren't. And some of them are obvious, like the word watch is on there. And of course that lets you watch the movie. So it's not that difficult of a game to solve. At least the first disc. But yeah, you you have to kind of remember, you know what words you can click and what ones you can't the second disk which had all the special features and one of them was which I don't see the point because I don't think it'd be as effective but one of it had a chronological version of the movie which if you've seen the mental you know, it kind of takes place going backwards. That one they're not words, they're little symbols and you have to like you know, like you click on I think it's a clock and that shows you that the movie in real time, you know, in like chronological time. But yeah, you couldn't even watch your movie without solving a little puzzle first.
Jonathan Correia:That's fun. as fuck.
Jacob Davidson:That's cool and speaking of fun as fuck. One of my favorite DVD menu features was for the original House of 1000 Corpses where you're in Captain Spaulding things at gas station Museum,
Jonathan Correia:and he would make fun of you. Yeah, exactly
Jacob Davidson:with you.
Jonathan Correia:On the flip side of that The Devil's Rejects DVD menu was horrible because it was just a lot of screaming like it was just like, and I remember having a party where we watched it in high school, we all fell asleep and no one everyone fell asleep. And when all throughout the night someone would wake up and go fuck someone shut off the TV but couldn't find the remote. It would just go back to sleep. And so all night it was just like screaming at us. I will never forgive Devil's Rejects for that. But I have a very serious question. Do you guys watch movies with commentary?
Jacob Davidson:Yes, yes. I love to listen to commentaries.
James Jay Edwards:I love to listen to commentaries. I, I almost approached them though. Kind of like podcasts where, where, you know, I don't really ever I'll put it on. But then it'll be like background noise and I listen to the commentary without actually watching the movie with it. I like hearing them talk about the movie, but I don't really put it in the context of the movie so much.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, I have difficulty sometimes if it's a movie, I've seen a whole mess of times I can do it. But I oftentimes get too distracted with it on. That being said, there are some commentaries that I can never skip. Whenever Arnold Schwarzenegger does a commentary, it's always gold because he explains the movie like an excited child and you it's like his commentary for Total Recall is him just like when he's fighting shared stone. He's just like, Oh, she hits me in the in the groin and it really hurts. Because you know, and she keeps me hard there. But it's okay, this is a stunt I didn't get hurt and or like on Conan and when he's talking about like how heavy the sword was, but it's okay because he's a strong man and could swing it like it's, it's so good. That and also Wet Hot American Summer has a commentary track where it's just David Wain and Michael Showalter and a few others just making fart noises the whole time. Which is brilliant because they timed it perfectly in some parts and then other parts. They're just like, You know what, just like completely go over the entire scene. It's it's brilliant.
James Jay Edwards:My favorite commentary is for This Is Spinal Tap. The band does a commentary track in character. So it's basically Spinal Tap doing it and it's funny because when they get to that, to that this goes to 11 scene and they all go ah, this yes, this is Oh, we probably should have copywritten this or is it a trademark or a copyright? Yeah, you don't really copyright you trademark. How many people have ripped off this goes to
Jacob Davidson:one of my favorite commentaries was the Adam green and Joe Lynch commentary for Friday the 13th part 4
James Jay Edwards:the fan commentary Yeah,
Jacob Davidson:yeah, I love the fan commentary stuff, especially the stuff they were doing for Friday 13th Because think was originally they did those I think for their podcasts and movie crypt and the was it the Yorkie THON event they do every year. And it was and they were so popular that they ended up putting them on the blu rays. Like when the Friday 13th set came out, they included every commentary they did. But Part four is my favorite, especially for the beginning, is the one thing I remember distinctly was you know, like the, like the opening scene of the movie where it's just after part three, and Jason seems to be dead. And you know, I never really thought about before, but they were pointing out how like, eerie the opening into Part four is because there's this bit where they like all the cops and ambulances and helicopters leave and just kind of focuses on Crystal Lake dark and isolated by itself. And yeah, just kind of gave me a new perspective on Part Four and specifically those scenes. So and yeah, and I really liked their other commentaries too in the in the series. So those of those have stuck with me.
James Jay Edwards:Have you guys seen the the Final Destination 3 DVD? I don't know if it's on the blu ray, but on the DVD, they have deleted scenes, but when you're watching the movie, it'll pop up it'll say do you want to see this scene or this? See they basically every death, they filmed twice. And you can it'll let you choose which one you watch. You know, if you want to watch you know this the safe one or the gory one or whatever, or you know, do you want this person to live or whatever, um, and it puts them into the actual movie. It's not just an extra feature, you know that you click on it, it puts it into context of the whole movie. So that was always kind of fun, too.
Jonathan Correia:It was like a choose your own adventure feature. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah. That's that's a better way of describing it than my frickin ham fisted. Yeah, it was like a choose your own adventure kind of a thing?
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, no, I do remember that being marketed. And it was also in 3D too. I think it was another one of the gimmicks of that home release. Which is, which is awesome. I love stuff like that. The Sin City had a really good like to disk one that had the first graphic novel with it on DVD. But you were able to watch, they changed up the movie because so that you can watch the stories in chronological order, or you can just watch them on your own. So if you're like, Yeah, I only want to watch that the Yellow Bastard today, you can just watch those segments as their own individual stories, which I always appreciate it. But going back to it, I mean, well, actually, before going back to it. I think the one thing that I do like about this current era of home video is we're not getting a lot of goofy fill up shelf space releases because remember, there was that period where every major release had to have like a three disc set that came with like, postcards and like an inflatable thing or like a cookie ish, something
Jacob Davidson:and just big styrofoam box
Jonathan Correia:and it would take up the space of like five or six DVDs and stuff. I'm a little client that we're a little past that. Don't get me wrong, like we still are getting larger than life releases Vinegar Syndromes. VSAs are or VSUs releases do take up a bit more space, but it's fucking worth it. Dude, Roadhouse can take up all the shelf space on my shelves as a can already does take up a lot.
James Jay Edwards:Don't get me started on the Criterion Godzilla. It's so inconvenient. Awesome set. But yeah, it's like that big children's book sighs
Jonathan Correia:Well, did you take the discs out because I highly recommend taking the discs out and putting it into a new blu ray case because the glue on those is not great in the disc slide down eventually into the glue just a heads up that in the Zatoichi set with criterions. But, but yeah, so I'm pretty glad we're a little past that. But I think there's a lot that's kind of being lost with like barebone releases are not getting the highest quality or even just some double dipping, too. Because like there's been releases where they'll put out a DVD and then like within a year they'll be like, oh shit, yeah, here's the 4K as well. They did it with Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar. They did it with Malignant as well. And it's, it's it's frustrating because like, especially as a as a avid collector as I am. I don't want to be spending I want to put my money towards the things that I love. But like taking that much money from is not cool. I got rent to pay motherfuckers I would
James Jay Edwards:wait on Evil Dead Rise then because you know that there's gonna be a better version with more features coming out.
Jacob Davidson:Oh, that's what I was thinking because the Evil Dead remake was put out by Scream Factory with that awesome 4k set. So I would not be surprised if something similar happened when Evil Dead Rise. Yep, well,
Jonathan Correia:two things. How long did we have to wait for that Scream Factory? Yeah, Evil Dead 2k 14 to come out. And the original did have some decent features. They did release the director's cut, or the unrated cut in between digitally, weirdly, I remember having to buy that on Google Play in order to watch it. And I already pre ordered the UK steelbook 4K for Evil Dead Rise. So that money is already spent.
James Jay Edwards:Are there any special features on that?
Jonathan Correia:I think so. Yes. Yeah, actually, I think in the tweet that originally started this topic and my rage, they said that the UK StudioCanal version is slated to have some commentaries and include the directors like early work like one of his early shorts and stuff. So like, the material is out there. i It's, it's I understand, you know, trying to save money and all that stuff. But like, if you're not putting anything on the disk, what's the incentive to get it? You know,
James Jay Edwards:right, one of my favorite features on that we're on a lot of I think Twilight Time discs, the isolated scores Did you guys ever watch the DVD without the dialogue just
Jacob Davidson:a couple of times
James Jay Edwards:as a music dork I would do that. Yeah,
Jonathan Correia:it's it's one of the reasons why I keep I kept so many of my Twilight Time releases even if they gone really since then. I think that's such a cool feature.
James Jay Edwards:How many versions of Rollerball Do you own?
Jonathan Correia:I'll look that up right now.
James Jay Edwards:I just have the Twilight Time one.
Jonathan Correia:Does that include the remake? No,
James Jay Edwards:we don't talk about the remake.
Jonathan Correia:So rollerball. I have the Arrow Video Blu Ray, the Twilight Time blu ray, the Shout Factor 4k and a German media book version. So I own four different versions of Rollerball. I do also own a Blu ray of the remake. I've tried to get rid of it, but no one will take it. I brought it to you. Legitimately I bought it at Dollar Tree and no one will take it. And I also have Roller Babies from Vinegar Syndrome, which I don't know if that's connected in any way. But
James Jay Edwards:no, it's not that that's not related. And I would rather watch that than the remake.
Jonathan Correia:1,000% 1,000% Who doesn't want to watch like some, like, porno roller derby movie Over that
Jacob Davidson:Is it an actual porn parody of rollerball or is it just the name?
Jonathan Correia:No, it's it's just name innit?
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it's yeah, it's just name
Jonathan Correia:I think it's I think it's about I haven't watched it, but I think it's roll. It's a roller derby, not roller ball, or I think it's just skating.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, it is. It's skating. But it's I don't think it's a roller derby. I think it's like street skating. Unless I'm getting it mixed up with something else. Gotcha. But I don't even remember what movie it is. But I'm pretty sure it's better than the remake of Rollerball.
Jonathan Correia:Yeah, but to get to cap it to bring it all together. Again golden age we have I think Shout Factory just announced their volume two of the Shaw Brothers collection. So between Shout Factory, 88 Films and Arrow Video we have had 52 Shaw Brothers films get HD discs in the last year or two which is incredible
Jacob Davidson:Damn,
Jonathan Correia:We are living in the golden age of home video releases for older films for independent films with Vinegar Syndrome and OCN putting out a lot of smaller distributors and giving them a platform to be seen and get funding but I wish the major studios would invest more into it I get it, the cost cutting you know you want yeah, if you want to watch the 4K of cocaine bear you can always go to Peacock and watch it sure but like owning the disc, it's, it's having a piece of that it's you get to learn more like I said it's some people's film school it's some people just expanding on their hobby learning more about it, it's getting more in depth with it having more interaction with the product, which I think is a beautiful thing for art is being able to interact with it more especially with cinema being such an interactive form. And I just I just really hope that they they turn more you know that they do better because I don't want to own two copies of Barb and Star just because one disk has 20 minutes more footage than the other one is the 4k You know I don't want to have to buy Malignant on Blu ray and then a year later sell it so I can afford to buy the 4k you know but it's that might just be firstworldproblems that might just be Jon Correia problems I don't know but I think we can do better and god dammit put empty The Empty Man out on fucking desk already. And and if you get if you do like commentary, maybe it's about time we do a Rampage commentary we've been threatening it for about
Jacob Davidson:it we are overdue.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, we are. Alright with that. On that note, let's, let's get out of here. Let's call this one an episode. So what are your favorite special features? And do you agree that that distributors and providers are not doing enough? Even though this is the golden age as Correia calls it? Are you tired of bare bones stuff? Do you not even buy physical media? Is it just you know, like Correia says is that a Correia problem? Let us know. And who knows, maybe you'll change our mind?
Jonathan Correia:No, I'm still going to waste all my money on discs, whether it's vinyl or blurays, its gonna happen
James Jay Edwards:then you won't change our mind. But let's hear what you have to say because we'll listen. Our theme music is by restless spirit. So go give them a listen. And our artwork is by Chris Fisher so go give him a like you can find us on any of the socials under Eye On Horror for iHorror.com is a site that we all call home and let us know if you want a commentary on Rampage because we'll do it one it
Jonathan Correia:Even if you don't want it, we'll force it's not
Jacob Davidson:what the public demands but it's what the public needs anyway you.
James Jay Edwards:Yeah, we'll see you in a couple of weeks. So for me, James Jay Edwards.
Jacob Davidson:I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia:and I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards:Keep your Eye On Horror.
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