Man vs. BEAST

This episode, the boys review Orphan: First Kill, Glorious, Barbarian, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Glorious, Fall, and Beast before delving into their favorite topic of Man Vs. Beast Movies. Highlighting their favorite Jaws knock offs, the resurgence of Animal Attack movies in the 90's, and pitch what animals deserve their own chance to fight humans. Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!*

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James Jay Edwards: 0:25

Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com This is episode 93 Otherwise known as season five episode 15. I am your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison, how you doing Jacob?

Jacob Davidson: 0:41

Doing good. Back on the West Coast and enjoying the Last Days of Summer.

James Jay Edwards: 0:47

Cool. It's it has been hot. But the last couple days have been nice and cool. Have you been kind of cool? Yeah,

Jacob Davidson: 0:52

yeah, it's only been like in the low 80s I think.

James Jay Edwards: 0:56

Only in the low 80s I think it's hot everywhere though. Aren't there like heat waves in like New York? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Also with us is your other other host Jon Correia How you doing Korea?

Jonathan Correia: 1:07

See when you say it's been cool out as someone who spends most of their workday outside in a tent it has not been it's been nine days here. It was I think we were like in a parking lot in Van Nuys and was 102 The other day we were putting ice packs on our electronics to keep them from like shutting down on us but that being said it is officially spooky season I'm calling it it's spooky bitches season because all the stores have are starting to stock the Halloween stuff we got holiday we got horror coming out in theaters. Like it's It's mid to late August baby spooky season for the next five months

James Jay Edwards: 1:48

starting to see all the ads for like AMCs horrorthon you know, all of the all the horror channels

Jacob Davidson: 1:55

and target officially has the Halloween candy out. So you know there's the sign.

James Jay Edwards: 2:01

There it is. I mean, honestly, we're almost to September. So this this year is kind of flying. Um, what do you guys been watching? The big thing that came out this week is Orphan First Kill Have you guys seen this?

Jonathan Correia: 2:17

Yes. I feel foolish because I thought I didn't think to look into it. I thought it was going to theaters and I don't want to go out to a theater so I bought it for $25 on Vudu not realizing it premiered on Paramount plus

James Jay Edwards: 2:32

Paramont plus. Yep. What did you think? You have not seen it? Jake. I

Jacob Davidson: 2:37

haven't seen it. We need to keep

James Jay Edwards: 2:39

this as as vague as possible because it it's funny because Orphan the first Orphan is one of those movies that you feel like don't spoil

Jonathan Correia: 2:47

that one either. Because he hasn't Jacob said that he hasn't seen either or you

Jacob Davidson: 2:51

haven't seen or orphans. I was gonna do a double

James Jay Edwards: 2:54

Do you know what the twist of the first one feature. is, though?

Jacob Davidson: 2:57

Yeah, no, I know.

James Jay Edwards: 2:58

I think it's almost Yeah, I think Everybody pretty much knows. But that's that's one of those movies that once you know the twist, you're like, where can they go from there? What can how can they possibly improve on that twist? Well, First Kill kind of does. It's pretty. It's pretty. It's one of those movies that halfway through it turns into a default. It's not what you think it is. It is so freaking awesome. And I'm just gonna say it. Julius Stiles is a queen. She is so awesome.

Jonathan Correia: 3:25

I've been saying that since Save the Last Dance. So I don't know where you've been the last 20 years

James Jay Edwards: 3:29

10 Things I Hate About You. Oh, yeah, that her little poem scene can get a tear to my eye. Every time

Jonathan Correia: 3:36

I had I loved orphan for skill. I have one gripe, we didn't see the first kill. Right?

James Jay Edwards: 3:42

But oh, it's misnamed. Because they they they explained at the beginning. They're like all Well, here's where she came from. And it's like, no. Is it going to be first or kill? Is there going to be?

Jonathan Correia: 3:55

Yeah, that was bothering me a little bit that I don't know. Well, I don't know if it wasn't missed out. Because they just showed like, Oh yeah, and here's like, all this bloody stuff from what you did before. And it's like, okay, so did she, like brutally? Like beat someone up or torture them? Or did they die? They didn't specify that. And so I was sitting there this whole time. I'm like, they called it first kill. And yet it happened off screen prior like, what the hell anyways? It's great. I applaud the filmmakers of first go for not only in pulling off something that was completely different from Orphan, but just the sheer fact they did a prequel to a movie that came out 10 years ago using the same actress who was a child then and is now she's my age so that she's like a grown ass adult now. And I know I've said this about Scream and I've said this about the last movie, we praise our Prey where I'm like, ya know, I'm super down for a movie in this franchise to come out every 10 years. I do want an orphan movie to come out every 10 years and just to see how they pull off keeping that actress Yeah, looking the same a

James Jay Edwards: 5:00

Be Isabel firm and cheat well i there had to be some digital manipulation because yeah cuz she didn't look a day over Orphan

Jonathan Correia: 5:11

but they did enough practical where it wasn't like you know notice it wasn't Irishman noticeable D aging stuff like I saw some behind the scene photos and they had like, you know the family on club kid boots you know with the high elevator heels and stuff and they there was definitely some like forced perspective or the force Perspective

James Jay Edwards: 5:34

Perspective

Jonathan Correia: 5:35

forced perspective there we go kind of like what they did in Lord of the Rings to make you know the hobbits look smaller and elves yeah

James Jay Edwards: 5:43

to make to make Wilfried look bigger

Jonathan Correia: 5:47

which that always excited to show me I love in camera effects so it was a Yeah, it was a lot of fun. And they they did a lot of really fun moments with with her just being the situation where it is where it's a child it's an you know, we can we do we do we mentioned the big reveal the first one that it's an

James Jay Edwards: 6:11

I you know, I think it's I think it's fair game if you if you haven't seen the first orphan and you don't know the twist fast forward like 15 seconds.

Jonathan Correia: 6:18

Yeah, sorry, but it's an adult who looks like a kid and she's a murderer. And they do a lot of fun stuff with that. There's like some that the car scene.

James Jay Edwards: 6:31

Yeah, those are Yeah, that you don't want to spoil too much of this for Jacob. But it is there. Yeah. What they've done is and the thing is I never realized because Julie Stiles hair is like dyed dark. I think she's usually a blonde. And when they both have their hair pulled back you see that Julia Stiles character actually does look like she could be Isabel Berman's mom, you know, they look enough alike where you're like, yeah, that is you know, they could be related. It's it's really, really well that and just the fact that they could come up with something jaw dropping in EOB that I mean, I won't say that it beats the first one because the first one if you don't know that reveal is coming. It is totally shocking. This one is you know, it's also shocking not quite as shocking. But man you're like,

Jonathan Correia: 7:22

yeah, it's it's surprising how good of a prequel it is it's kind of like Ouija: Origin of Evil. Except the first movie was actually good in this franchise. You know?

James Jay Edwards: 7:35

I didn't mind the first Ouija, but Origin of Evil is way better. Yeah, because it's Flanagan I mean, Flanagan is going to outdo pretty much anybody that is

Jonathan Correia: 7:44

I do have one gripe with how people are true. reacting the first kill a lot of people are comparing it to Malignant and saying it's this year's Malignant on the on the WHAT THE FUCK factor I guess. Which, which I'm like, I get it like you know the thing in this movie is a bit what the fucky but nothing compares to the Gabriel reveal in that jail.

James Jay Edwards: 8:07

Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 8:08

nothing. Nothing compares to Zoe bells. What the fuck because never related and felt. So in the moment with the character than Zoe Bell in the jail scene in Malignant light. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards: 8:21

it's a different kind of shocking reveal. Yeah, and it's weird because First Kill is really schlocky, but it's not as schlocky as Malignant. You know, it's, it's, it's more like it's kind of a throwback to those to those 80s escaped lunatic slasher movies, whereas Malignant was like a throwback to like 80s Cronenberg kind of thing. So, yeah, it's a different kind of

Jonathan Correia: 8:48

schlock. But yeah, Orphan: First Kill ya. Impairment plus,

James Jay Edwards: 8:52

on Paramount plus, unless you have an extra 25 bucks floating around like Correia.

Jonathan Correia: 8:57

Oh, man, like I and it was like, I was like, I didn't want to I went to the bathroom halfway through the movie, and I was just like, looking up some stuff and I was like, God damn it. I could have just saved myself. I already started watching this. I couldn't get the refund so anywho Did either of you guys see Fall?

James Jay Edwards: 9:13

No, I really, really wanted to they didn't screen it for us. What I imagined fall is and tell me if this is correct. Is it basically the first scene of Ad Astra

Jonathan Correia: 9:24

Ah, I'll be frank I don't remember much of Ad Astra outside of the moon pirates

James Jay Edwards: 9:30

now that the first part of the first thing about Astra they're on like this huge antenna and they have and it's they have to basically abandon it so they like jump with parachute it's really really tense. I know this isn't going to be the same as fall but no,

Jonathan Correia: 9:43

no because at Astra is actually satisfying. Fight. I think I think I said it last night. I think fall might be this year's MoonFall for me. And yes, I recognize Moon fall came out earlier this year. It's like I really liked the premise have like two, it's about these, this woman, these two friends, one of them was married and her husband dies in the beginning and a climbing accident. And so almost a year later she's in a in a total rough spot drinking all the time can't get over it. And her friend who's become like a travel blogger influencer person, it's like, Hey, let's go climb this really tall tower that's like two Eiffel Towers tall. And when they get to the top, the ladders falling, they're stuck up there. And it's it's I couldn't get over the the melodrama of like the beginning because it was just kind of really over the top. Like, the drinking in the beginning was just a kind of a, it was it's this is one of those movies where like, the details in it are just not clicking, and I can't get over it. So like at the beginning, they're like her life's a mess. She's a drunken mess. And they show her apartment and it's like, clean except for like dishes in the sink and like a pizza box on the kitchen table. And it's just like, oh, wow, what your your, my place is more trash. An afternoon of just taking the afternoon off then this person who's supposedly been like just absolutely a wreck for a year. And then it's like, The Father is just like constantly being like, get over your dead husband, he was an asshole. And it's like, wait, what? Like, it's just like, really weird. And then like, they get there, under the premise that she's like, her friends gonna vlog the whole thing. And like, as she's like, does like a little video in the beginning. And then she doesn't film anything until they get to the top. It's like you're a vlogger you would be milking the shit out of it with like, GoPros on you and all this stuff. Like she didn't even film any of it. But the worst thing is, is they're supposed to be these climbers, and they're climbing up the needle. Now once do they clip in at any point on it, like, they have the harnesses all that they brought harnesses and 50 feet of rope, but there's no clipping in. There's no safety, there's no backup at any point. If one of them falls, she's taking the other one with her as in like whip lashing faster to the ground. Like it's it's like I want to know if these filmmakers caught like work act like actually consulted climbers, because nothing about it is like something that someone would actually do with that. And that sums up like a lot of the decisions in this movie. It's a lot of like, stupid things. Like I know Twitter was blowing up her I don't know about blowing up. But they brought up the fact that one of them had to pee off of the tower thing. And like, it's a 360 thing. There's no walls up there. You know, it's just a platform. There's no railings, nothing. And like they dropped their backpack early on. It's like sitting on a dish. And that's the side she decides to pee on. So she pisses on the bag. It's like you've literally had three six that you could have been anywhere and you're pissed on your bag, but it's again, it's these decisions like that. But yeah, it just didn't, it just didn't work for me. And unlike movies, like Happy Death Day, where it just doesn't vibe with me. And I and I get it. And that's cool. Like I don't have to vibe with every movie. Not every movie is made for me. But this one I'm genuinely a bit taken aback and like how positive a lot of the reactions are. I guess it's just like super not made for me. But like, I just found myself going God please fall, fall fall one of you just fucking fall already. And like I and again, I really liked the premise. But like it, it just like you guys remember Adam Greene's Frozen. It was like that. But think, think of like, you know, they're stuck up there. But there's all these things that can go on. That happened with it like the gurgling your hand frozen European yourself or the wolves and stuff. There's a lot of different elements that get introduced in it, this film seems to just bypass a lot of them. And it's also sad because you have these two female best friends up there. And they introduced this whole plotline on how the best friend cheated with the husband and it. And it's like course they did like, that plot literally does nothing for the movie, they don't have a big fight about it. They don't have a big like coming together anything with it. And it's just like, why is it that you have two female climbers that can be really cool. They can be really cool characters. And you have to spend so much screen time talking about a guy who's in like, the man who's in the first two minutes of the movie, and then one of them has to be a cheater, you know, like, what, like, there's no reason for it. There's no, there was no, like, you could have had like some really cool like discussions going on there. There was like a moment where they showed like a storm coming. And she's like at the top of the needle and there's like lightning and wind. It's like yeah, no, this is gonna be like really thrilling and it's past it's the next day. Like nothing happens with it. Like it would have been more interesting. Instead of having like that internal fighting, that's kind of a bit misogynistic, and just had it be more about them versus like the elements and whatnot. But yeah, I always I always find that really lazy where it's like, we got to create the drama, so let's have them do something stupid. Also, there is So many scenes of them pulling rope and rope being pulled through their hands and not once are their hands injured because they're not wearing gloves. Yeah. All right. That's enough griping

James Jay Edwards: 15:10

and your disbelief

Jonathan Correia: 15:12

like I honestly do want you guys to see this movie and see if it's just me being like bitchy or our if I'm crazy because I there's a lot of people being super duper positive and that's cool, man. I'm glad people are enjoying it. You know, but I it just I don't I don't see it. Fall in theaters now.

Jacob Davidson: 15:33

As for me, I was fortunate enough to go to a screening last week of Rebecca McKendree is Glorious now on Shudder. Yeah, yeah. Did any you guys see?

Jonathan Correia: 15:44

Yeah, I watched it on Shudder yesterday.

Jacob Davidson: 15:46

Okay, well, since James hasn't seen it, I'll keep it spoiler free. And also because you know, like, this is a movie you got definitely recommend checking out and seeing all the twists and turns. But basically, it's about this dude who's new who's driving along this lonesome country road and like, it looks like he's gone for some shit or he's just kind of a wreck. Like he goes to this highway rest stop and drinks himself into a stupor and he wakes up the next morning. And he goes into the bathroom stall and he's a mess and just speaking his guts out. And turns out he's not alone in that bathroom. And there's what seems to be very cordial person in the stall next door. But once you know if it's a eldritch like Lovecraftian monster, living in the bathroom stall this highway bathroom and it starts talking to him. And I should also add that the drifters name is Ryan Kuantan and the monster is voiced by none other than JK Simmons

Jonathan Correia: 16:51

and he's speaking to him through a glory hole. Yeah, hence the title. Oh yes. Because it's it's a it's a cosmic or a god and a glory hall and I thought that was genius. Like the second I was like, Wait, cosmic God and glory hole and it's called Glorious Oh, Rebecca your great

Jacob Davidson: 17:10

play on words. Gotta love them. But ya know, it's a very interesting kind of genre busting movie because it's kind of a kind of a horror comedy, kind of a stage play drama. It's very it's very minimalist because it's basically the majority of the movies Ryan Kuantan and JK Simmons is his bathroom with some flashbacks and some some other stuff. So it's mostly just rank one and JK Simmons going off each other and they have terrific chemistry especially considering you know, JK Simmons is a Cthulu type extra dimensional monster in this

Jonathan Correia: 17:44

and I cannot stress how great JK Simmons is

Jacob Davidson: 17:48

oh yes, like

Jonathan Correia: 17:48

they gave him the best dialogue he delivers it perfectly. There's some genuinely haunting moments with it. I got a little bit lost with the the human character in it I kind of wished that they explored the reveal at the end a bit earlier and a bit more with that. But I had a lot of fun with glorious I think again, just the premise alone and like they showed in the trailer and being like there's only one thing you can do to help the complete annihilation of all existence and that's you got to give me a part of your body through this hole like heavily implying that he needs to fit the glory hole

James Jay Edwards: 18:31

and what part of your body will fit in this

Jonathan Correia: 18:33

they end and they do some real fun stuff with hole that the in the movie I don't want to spoil anything but there's that was one of my favorite parts of the movie was was that the whole like debate and like follow through and everything and it was it was really well done. But yeah, I mean it's I had I had fun with it. I wish I liked it more than I did but I really loved all the cosmic horror and aspects of that I just wish the other side of it kind of lined up a bit more for me but I Glorious was a lot of fun it's great great way to spend the afternoon on Shudder and it's and it's short it's only like an hour and 18 minutes or something

Jacob Davidson: 19:16

yeah it's a pretty it's a pretty short film.

James Jay Edwards: 19:19

Have either you guys seen Bodies Bodies Bodies?

Jacob Davidson: 19:22

Not yet.

James Jay Edwards: 19:23

Yeah, so bodies bodies bodies and it is it's not the movie you think it is it it's being billed as kind of a A24 slasher, and it's more of a whodunit. And the main premise is all of these friends are getting together for a hurricane party in one of their in Pete Davidson's one of the characters and his parents are going away or are they are away. So he invites all his buddies over for a hurricane party. And the hurricane of course knocks all the lights out so they're drunk and high and they decide to play this game called Bodies Bodies Bodies were one of them is like, we're one of them is like a murderer. And the rest of them, everybody kind of runs around in the dark. If the murderer touches you, you pretend to be dead. And then when the lights come on, you have to figure out who the murderer is. And of course, it's not a game, it's real, and people start really dying. I mean, it's okay. It's not, it can't decide that wants to be a slasher or a who done it. So it kind of like straddles the line and doesn't really, it doesn't really commit to either side. But I will say, the final reveal of the murder is brilliant. It's genius. It's also been billed as a comedy. And it's not the only thing comic about it is these characters are really, they overuse and misuse the words, you're silencing me. You know, you're ableist you know, Pete Davidson has this great diatribe about the term gaslighting and how people use gaslighting just to as just a catch all for abuse and he's all that's not even what it means. That's where all the comedy comes from, as these people just being kind of too woke for their own good, but the final reveal of the murder is hysterical the way they do it, it's it's, it's awesome. But it's it's typically 24 It's it's shot a lot like Spring Breakers or The Bling Ring, you know, with like those, you know, stylistic cameras and lots of neon and, you know, it's a it's an A24 slasher, I guess, but, you know, and the body count is not as high as it should be. I mean, of the party of people, they, you know, there's a lot of survivors. So that's the other thing that doesn't make it a slasher. You know, it's like, too many people are left standing, you know, but anyway, here's okay.

Jonathan Correia: 21:51

It looked like fun. Sounds sounds a lot more fun than Fall. Wish we saw that instead. Yeah.

James Jay Edwards: 21:57

I'll let you know when I see Fall.

Jacob Davidson: 22:00

So, James, would you recommend?

James Jay Edwards: 22:02

Sure. I'm not. I recommend people watch anything, honestly. I mean, I don't I never don't recommend I mean, if it looks interesting to you watch it. Yeah. You know, it's not going to make my top 10 I don't think but you know, it's worth seeing. But again, any movie I think is worth seeing. Any movie that has been made is worth seeing. Well, to an extent, I guess.

Jonathan Correia: 22:23

Yeah, we can exclude Muck from just about we've given that movie so much free advertisement.

James Jay Edwards: 22:33

Yeah, but we're telling people to not watch it bad publicity. I wonder if we peaked anybody's curiosity enough to look it up and watch it? Because we've been saying how bad it is.

Jonathan Correia: 22:44

I think we did that to Kelly. I think we did it to Kelly.

Jacob Davidson: 22:47

Oh, no.

Jonathan Correia: 22:47

Poor Kelly. Sorry.

Jacob Davidson: 22:49

What are we done? Let's see. And, and did you guys ever see the WNUF Halloween special? Yeah. Love it. Well, the sequels out. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going from the 80s to the radical 1990s.

James Jay Edwards: 23:05

Now, what's the gimmick on the sequel? I mean, is it the same thing where it's like something taped off TV or how do they pull it?

Jacob Davidson: 23:11

Yeah, basically. Well, the other thing is, it's it's called The Out There Halloween Mega Tape. And yeah, it's supposed to be like this bootleg videotape from like, you know, just yeah, like video pirates or whatever. And, you know, it's said purely in the 90s its period piece in that. Well, it's it's kind of funny because it's split up this time. It's not just one broadcast. It's like the first half is set in this kind of Ricki Lake type talk show. You know, discussing a bunch of Halloween topics like this. Like one of the guests they have on his like this goth guy claims to be a vampire and a woman who says she's having an affair with a ghost so there's some kind of Jerry Springer type stuff in there. And then the second half is like this Halloween alien broadcast where the they're doing kind of like an Alien Autopsy type thing and talking to this colts and going to these alleged sightings and stuff and of course in between like the original WNUF Halloween specials. We've got all these commercials and fake trailers for stuff but it's all 90s themed so like there's a Beanie Babies type commercial. There's like a supersoaker type commercial, you know, there's radical sodas and you know, fruit drink commercials. And they also have some trailers for some fake movies like my favorite probably was The Bogeys which is about like miniature critters type monsters that attack a miniature golf course. And you know, Chris, I feel like Crystal Martina just perfectly captures these kind of bottle versions of the decades because yeah, it's like it's like watching it was like I you know, like I'm an 90s kid so I kind of relate to it more than the 80's stuff in the WNUF Halloween special. And it's like, this is the type of stuff I would fall asleep to on like a Wednesday night.

Jonathan Correia: 25:08

Yeah. What's it? What's it playing on? Or do you have to do it? Do we know?

Jacob Davidson: 25:13

Well, for me, I had to order the DVD directly from their site. They did a screening A Midsummer Scream, I'm not sure about digital, but it is out there in one form or another. Also, I got the VHS tape version, because they did they did a limited run of those. And I mean, it does give an authentic experience watching it on tape.

James Jay Edwards: 25:33

I didn't the original end up on Shudder for a while. Yes, yes,

Jacob Davidson: 25:37

they did put the original and Shudder. Not really sure about any release plans for this one. But hopefully it will get the shutter treatment or something. So it gets out to a wider audience because it was a lot of fun. See, and another movie, I was fortunate enough to see a pre screening of Have you guys heard about Barbarian? Oh,

James Jay Edwards: 25:58

yeah. I have not seen it. It was one of the one they did a Comic Con screening. But I had to work that night. So I missed it. And I'm totally bummeded. How is it?

Jacob Davidson: 26:08

It is good. It is real good.

James Jay Edwards: 26:11

I can't wait. Yeah, no,

Jacob Davidson: 26:13

I want to just kind of leave the premise as vague as possible, because the more you go blind into it, the better. But basically. Okay, so this, this woman, rents and Airbnb played by Georgina Campbell. And as it turns out, somebody's already at the be an Airbnb she booked played by Bill Skarsgard. They meet and they figure you know, the best way to sort things out is she can stay for the night while he's there. And then stuff happens. I'd like you and I'm just going off the trailer because that's the basic premise they set up. But I don't want to go too much deeper than that. Because again, this is just something you got to watch unfold. It's a horror comedy. And I feel like a lot of comedy people are getting into horror lately. And comedy people can do horror real quick, especially, you know, wake up like Jordan Peele, because there was definitely there was definitely a kind of balancing act to that. And also the setup for both jokes and scares, which were impeccably timed. And know that and this movie generally scared the shit out of me. Like I was seeing it in theaters, and I actually jumped out of my seat and a skirt. Holy fuck. Like, it got me it got me good.

James Jay Edwards: 27:30

I'm surprised it's a comedy because it doesn't seem like like it would lend itself to much comedy. The premise but

Jacob Davidson: 27:38

Well, I mean, it's, I mean, horror comedy in the sense that there are some jokes in there but like, it's, it's the it's the good kind of horror comedy where, you know, they've got the comedic elements down, because they're in reaction to the horror. Again, I can't go too deep into it. But yeah, it's mostly horror, but there are some definite scenes of levity that were pretty funny. But, ya know, it's just, it has some great setups. Ya know, it's just, it's a real great tension builder, you know, because like that somebody actually had the screen and yell don't go down there. Yeah, you know, it's it just really hooks you.

Jonathan Correia: 28:21

I always love a good genuine reaction like that. Like when we went to go see It: Chapter Two. In the in the restaurant scene when the crazy stuff first started, there was Lady in our screening who shouted, Oh, hell no, like real fun. That was beautiful. Oh, yeah. No, I

Jacob Davidson: 28:38

love a lot of scenes like that.

James Jay Edwards: 28:41

Speaking of speaking to the screen, and also, you know, because we're the kings of transitions.

Jonathan Correia: 28:48

It's a good transition, as long as we say we're good at them.

James Jay Edwards: 28:51

Yeah. Let's transition to our topic. By talking about Beast have you guys both seen Beast? Of course. Not yet. Oh, you haven't? Oh, joy. You have all people are gonna love it. Oh, man, Beast is? The short answer is Idris Elba punching a lion. But basically, it is

Jonathan Correia: 29:13

unsuccessfully I should say. There's a lot of there's a lot of fighting the lion and it does not go well.

James Jay Edwards: 29:20

This lion is relentless. Basically it is a Idris Elba and his two daughters. They just lost their mother to cancer. So they're on this, you know, healing safari in Africa and an old friend of theirs is Sharlto Copley. He's like a conservationist, you know, anti poacher guy. And he knows his way around, you know, the the plains of Africa. And so they're out there and they get attacked by a rogue lion. And this rogue lion is like, freakin Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees wrapped up in you know, this, you know, 400 pound muscle frame I mean, this thing this Lion is really they do everything to this damn lion and it keeps coming. It Oh, it's crazy. But it's the the funny thing is is like, from another point of view, this lion can be seen as the protagonist because the reason this lion is rogue, which they do lay out is your like all good for this lion. You know, I mean, the reason this lion is is going after people is totally just he's going after the wrong people. But he eventually gets the right people. I don't want to spoil anything, but it's

Jonathan Correia: 30:31

basically the lions displaced because of the poachers, like like poachers killed its pride. So it's going out and killing all

James Jay Edwards: 30:37

Yeah, it's, it's, it's the first scene. So we'll say it this lion is the last survivor of his pride, because they show you in the first scene, these poachers killed the rest of his pride and he gets away. So he's psycho. He's like, he's this rogue lion. He's a lion without a family. And he just in his head, people equal bad. So he's going and he do the body count of this lion is insane.

Jonathan Correia: 31:02

Dude, that lion goes hard as fuck, like

James Jay Edwards: 31:05

it does.

Jonathan Correia: 31:06

And it's like, and we started the drive. And so the screen is a little darker, because I know people are going to complain about the CG live, people are going to buy it, it looked great on our screen. But again, drive in theater. You know, screens are a little darker.

James Jay Edwards: 31:20

think that some of the night scenes and I mean, in the movies defense, you're in the end frames in the middle of the night. Yeah, the African plains in the middle of the night, it's gonna be dark. And it may have been to say budget a little bit. So they didn't have to be as detailed with the CG because the lions are all CG, they, you know, they may have used some real lines and some of the distance shots of like, the full pride and stuff. But Idris Elba did not actually wrestle with a lion.

Jonathan Correia: 31:55

But it's it's done really well, because I drew the comparisons because we saw Fall and Beast last night at the drive. And, you know, it's definitely one of those like, ordinary person caught in an extraordinary situation. And there's been there's not a lot of discourse, but a lot of the complaints I've been seeing online is people going, Oh, well, if I was in that situation, I would have done this. And it's like, okay, first of all, mother, demon lion is coming after you, you are not going to react. Well, I guarantee it. I'll give a fuck who you are.

James Jay Edwards: 32:26

And also, I'll bet you whatever you say that you would try. They tried.

Jonathan Correia: 32:31

Yeah. And also, that's not going to pop in your head, man. Let's be but the thing is, is like they they do a good job. So like one of my big problems with fall was the fact that they kept doing it was like it was what Ebert would say like the idiot pot, you know, where it's just like, you're creating tension and drama because they did something stupid. Whereas like with this one, it's like, there's a lot of motivation behind things. So he just Elba is a doctor and they show a lot of good scenes of him, of him like having to perform or having to react to medical situations. And it's all done. Well, like, you know, he's like, hold on, we got to sterilize before we do this heavy meat or No, not like that, you know, like they put in just enough medical stuff where it's like, oh, yeah, no, he's believable as a doctor. And they they nailed the they do the human characters really well. So you feel because they're healing trying to heal from like, the mother passing and she's from Africa. So they're kind of going back to her home you know, hometown and then all of that and it's the there's a little bit of discourse between the father and the kids and like a state's done really well there's great chemistry there. And so you you have that like emotional element to hold on to so that when the action kicks in, and there's a lot of again, that lion goes hard as fuck a there's there's weight to it, you know, dimension that lion goes hardest fuck because like, I swear, dude, there's so many great bits where it just like, pops out or you see it like lurking in the background.

James Jay Edwards: 33:57

Yeah, totally. Like you'll see yourself and we'll be like looking for it like with like scopes or anything and then you just kind of see over his shoulder like pops up. It's, it's, he's a perfect, he's a slasher villain.

Jonathan Correia: 34:08

There's a great part and they showed him a trailer where he just ends up under the truck and with a tranq gun and the lines just like shoving itself under are trying to get at him. And like the entire time I was just going like, grabbed the gun grabbed the gun grabbed good, but it was just like kicking the shit out of it. And I think that's one of those moments where people were like, Woohoo, take the truck go to every show. It's like, No, dude, you would have been doing the same thing flailing around trying to like get it to go

James Jay Edwards: 34:34

give you an idea of what this lion goes through to get these people. When we saw the commercial my wife is like there's more than one lion. Those lines look different look, that one is like more gray than that one. It's like Oh no, it's the same lion he just gets kind of messed up and is still

Jonathan Correia: 34:51

Yeah, dude. It's relentless. But it's it's a lot of fun and it's a great man versus beast story you know, classic with like, but It takes it knows when to be serious and it knows when to be a little over the top with it. Try politico ko please like, phenomenon it as like the friend because that guy that guy sells like the most ridiculous characters really well. Yeah. So it's really cool seeing him more than like a straight man roll and like being serious with it and like a kind of a ridiculous bot. I like that they like yes, the lion is very kind of Jason for ease, and that, you know, he goes through a lot and it's still going, but they don't go too too crazy with it, you know, like, there's no point where you're like, oh, this line is actually possessed by a demon or something like that, like, you see it take damage, it does react to it, it does just keep going. You know? And, and there's no ridiculous thing where it's like, you know, so I'm just like, you know, there's one part where like, one of the villagers that's attack calls it the a demon, you know, but there's no like, oh, it's the spirit of the area of retaliating against the anti environment. You know, it's it's the Mother Nature fighting, but it's just like, No, this is a pissed off lion, like everyone is just very straightforward of like, this is a very pissed off lion word, it's territory. And this is not good.

James Jay Edwards: 36:15

And my one not really gripe with it, but my only thing with beast is that you can kind of tell how it's going to end pretty early, you can tell how this line is eventually going to be dealt with. They foreshadow it pretty hardcore, but it's also pretty realistic. Basically, the way they get out of it. You can see it coming a mile away because they foreshadow it a mile away. But it's not unbelievable. You know, it's not it's you know, it's something that it this is the way that they should have dealt with it. You know, an hour before in the not

Jonathan Correia: 36:53

like Fall where they telegraph every single plot thing early in the movie, and then unlike Fall, you actually get to see how they get out of the situation. Spoiler Yeah, you don't even see them get rescued. She just said they just cut to her on the ground. You don't fall you get no fucking bail. I'm sorry. I'm gonna spoil it like that. That just to talk to you how great Beast is and how similar they are? Yeah, you don't even get the fucking pay off. Yeah. Anyway,

James Jay Edwards: 37:19

that's weak. Okay. So let's, let's transition what I was talking about talking to the screen and my screening of Beast, there was a lot of talk into the screen. And in a movie like Beast, it's fun. You know, you're like, Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, no, right there. Right there. Right there you go grab the gun, grab the gun. Or, you know, the, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to spoil it. But there's one particular part where everybody is like, well, that's how you do it.

Jonathan Correia: 37:47

So I know the scene.

James Jay Edwards: 37:51

But uh, but let's move on to our topic, which is man versus beast movies are not necessarily man versus nature. And not necessarily creepy crawly movies, which you already talked about. Let's talk man versus beast. This is for lack of a better word. A catch all is going to be Jaws rip offs. You know, we love our Jaws Rip offs. Oh, yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 38:11

This is our Moby Dick. You know, man versus one. Yeah, creature, you know, move. Movie. I always love parks records like Moby Dick. I liked that book. Because it's no metaphor. It's it's just a book about a man who hates a fish.

Jacob Davidson: 38:27

Yeah, yeah, no, it is interesting. Going back to that because it all really stems to Jaws because Jaws was such a massive success. There was an absolute wave of rip offs, knockoffs and followers. You know, because he he got movies with like man versus Barracuda man versus a different kind of shark man versus Parana and so on and so forth. Man versus grizzly bear now, man versus grizzly bear. Yeah, no. So it is kind of funny on this particular subject that one movie did it so well that it spawned dozens and dozens and dozens of imitators and

Jonathan Correia: 39:06

for the most part, I have always enjoyed when if we're talking about Jaws rip offs I always like the ones that did use a different animal. You know, I get a little tired of shark movies. Because you know, just I'm not saying there's only so much you can say because we still keep getting some good shark movies out there. But it's just always so much more interesting seeing what people can do with the different animals like Beast was so cool because there was so many great parts were and your comparison to like Jason Vorhees is great because it's applied to an animal but like, there there are some points where it's like, oh shit, you're stalking him and then all sudden you see him like thrash around people and it's like, oh, it's like a big kitty cat. Then you see it just like rip off like they're like back skinny. You're like, oh, that's a big cat you know? So I always enjoy seeing like those different things in the in the special effects and how they do things with them so like movies like Tentacles was a lot of fun you know with it being a giant squid and having like, you know those coming around with movie The Squid ate a baby

James Jay Edwards: 40:12

that's that's what about when I think of tentacles I remember seeing it on TV when I was a kid and that seen the little the babies you know the screw that mom for leaving her kid by the cliff you know and then the bus comes by and you see it in the thing is gone You're oh but but that was like the most effective seems reeks of like a holy crap this this. I thought it was an octopus at the time, but it might have been a squid.

Jonathan Correia: 40:39

I think it was an octopus.

Jacob Davidson: 40:41

Octopus.

James Jay Edwards: 40:42

And I'm like, wait that octopus ate a baby. Yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 40:48

we real quick when it comes to Jaws rip offs and or like knock offs or films that are trying to be Jaws with claws or something? Why? Why don't people take that part of Jaws more because Jaws basically opens up with a child getting eaten by a shark. Like that's hurt. That's like decently early in the movie. And yet no one does that. I think it's because of like an unwritten rule a lot of people have where it's like, oh, well you can't have a kid die it's like, but that was effective as fuck like that's how you knew this shark goes hard like you saw a child get you but like not saying we have to show violence against children and films, you know, do what you need to do for the story. But like, exactly what Tentacle when that baby got taken. You're like, Oh, damn, no one is safe. This thing is evil. It's eating babies.

Jacob Davidson: 41:31

Well, it's funny. You mentioned that too. Because like what? Like there because there's that story that in jaw and Jaws that they had a different scene with the Kinderman kid getting eaten, and it was considered so gruesome that they cut it from the movie. Wow.

James Jay Edwards: 41:49

Well, the scene of him getting eaten is pretty gruesome.

Jacob Davidson: 41:52

Yeah, so apparently there was an even worse scene or like gory or scene of him just getting chewed up by that shark. Wow. That's and and off of Jonathan's comments, I can think of really only a couple examples of that, where like they put the kids in danger. Like there's some kid victims like, and both of them are Coreman because in Piranha, some of the kids I've I think got eaten or at least got bitten by the Piranha and in Oh yeah. Humanoids From the Deep. There's a scene where like a kid gets eaten by one of the humanoids. That's right. Yeah, so Coreman understood, gotta kill some kids.

Jonathan Correia: 42:29

Oh, of course, Coreman understood. schlock like he's the Coreman was probably the one standing in theory going Holy shit, they ate they killed the kid. We got to do that. That's

James Jay Edwards: 42:43

field Spielberg do it and he's like, all we can do that.

Jonathan Correia: 42:47

I just always thought that argument was interesting when people would be like, Oh, no, yeah, we can't have the kid die. That kid has just arrived. And it's like, Spielberg did it like he's He created all the kids movies of the 80s. Like, he didn't

James Jay Edwards: 42:59

blow up a kid with a bomb. Um, oh, no boss or something. I

Jonathan Correia: 43:03

fail in real life or in a movie. I wouldn't put it past either way.

James Jay Edwards: 43:07

I'm forgetting what movie it is. But I feel like he had a kid delivering a package that had a bomb in it and people were pissed because he blew up a kid. But anyway, that's not man versus beast. Um, what are your guys's favorite Jaws rip offs? I could tell you right now mine is we've just mentioned it already. Grizzly.

Jacob Davidson: 43:30

William Gertler.

James Jay Edwards: 43:31

And because grizzly is literally beat for beat Jaws. But instead of the ocean, they're in a forest and instead of shark, it's a bear. But you can actually plot the beats out and they match.

Jacob Davidson: 43:48

Grizzly it will always hold a special place in my heart just because of that ending where is okay if I spoil it?

James Jay Edwards: 43:56

It's like a 50 year old movie sure.

Jacob Davidson: 43:57

Okay, where they killed the grizzly with a fucking bazooka. And that scene was so over the top. This is true. It actually inspired the ending to the original Resident Evil video game where you use a rocket launcher to destroy the final boss so grizzly get help gave us resin evil Go figure.

James Jay Edwards: 44:19

What else did they get to do? It was another one of those things where they tried everything with that damn bear. Bazooka game yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 44:27

When all else fails, Bazooka the shit out of it. It's a little off topic. Well, our topic is man versus beast, but my favorite Jaws rip off is definitely The Car because oh yeah, if there was a movie that like wasn't just like taking the premise of like something an unkillable force of nature, like coming after people. You know we're talking about animals this they applied it to a car but this film also like took a lot of notes of like style and like the suspense and everything from cause and the car is just a lot of fun. The sequel Road to Revenge is terrible. And makes no sense. I don't understand it. But I got it at dollar trees. So I wasn't too upset. But it for Man versus beast Long Weekend is just pure brilliant Ozploitation. It's about like the two most despicable human beings ever going on vacation in the Australian outback. Like they're just killing animals left to right, left and right for no fucking reason, like just shooting birds.

James Jay Edwards: 45:35

They're up against a lot of different animals though, right? That's not just a single one. Oh, no,

Jonathan Correia: 45:39

it's not just a single one. Literally, like every hawks are attacking.

James Jay Edwards: 45:46

Like, so that's not really a Jaws rip. That's like a day of the animals kind of a thing.

Jonathan Correia: 45:50

No. So so that's why my thing's a two parter. So like, okay, straight up, draws rip off, or knock off or even car inspo car man versus beast, long weekend because it's man versus all the beasts. And it's, it's just great. Because like, again, most of the time like, I always like movies that pull off having the protagonist not be a good person. I kind of I enjoy having that. palate cleanser every now and then. And long weekend pulls it off tremendously like the first 20 minutes. It's just them like stomping on random eggs and just fighting with each other the entire time and like, just basically being like God, can somebody please like take these people out? And Mother Nature's just like, I'm on it. I'm sending everything.

James Jay Edwards: 46:37

At that point. The protagonist isn't by their nature. Yeah. What do you see? Yeah, it shifts.

Jacob Davidson: 46:42

Yeah, the evil humans. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia: 46:44

Have you guys ever seen Turkish Jaws?

Jacob Davidson: 46:48

No.

Jonathan Correia: 46:49

In looking up for this episode, there's there's a movie and it's called I'm gonna mispronounce it like a motherfucker. But it's Col. Or Col, but it's known as like Turkish jaws. And now I really need to see this movie.

Jacob Davidson: 47:02

It sounds wild.

Jonathan Correia: 47:04

If anyone knows how to watch this movie, please. DM me, let me know because I need to watch this.

Jacob Davidson: 47:09

Alright, um, as for me, I think probably one of my favorite jobs. knockoffs was Dino de la Renta says Orca, the killer whale.

James Jay Edwards: 47:18

Yeah, it's talking about Moby Dick. Yeah, exactly. It's basically Moby Dick. Yeah.

Jacob Davidson: 47:24

Pretty much except it's the whale that wants revenge on the sailor. But

James Jay Edwards: 47:29

but also, Richard Harris. He's obsessed with this Orca, too. So it works both ways. And what we're talking about with like the shifting antagonist, that orca has a reason to want revenge. Oh, yeah. A really good one. So yeah,

Jonathan Correia: 47:44

they do a good job of like selling the emotion of that whale in that movie, which is interesting is all how they pulled that off. Like that's, that's some editing right there.

Jacob Davidson: 47:54

Yeah. And I love that they kind of take a swipe at Jaws by having the Orca kill a great white shark and the opening like five minutes.

James Jay Edwards: 48:02

We're stronger than jaws.

Jonathan Correia: 48:05

I love it. When movies have unearned hubris in the beginning of it, you know where it's like? Yeah, we were doing something that someone said before, but we're gonna do it better. And no one has pulled that off better than Orca.

Jacob Davidson: 48:21

Yeah, no, that was just the biggest fuck you absolutely brilliant. Yeah. And no, I mean it because it's interesting because it is this kind of drama revenge movie between fishermen and a whale. And it actually works, you know, because it's like, you know, there's, there's actual emotion from the animal as opposed to stuff like Jaws and stuff where it's this is kind of mindless doing machine know that that Orca is pissed.

James Jay Edwards: 48:46

And the motivation is 100% Clear. It's also

Jonathan Correia: 48:50

great because I don't know if Beast is going to have as much of an impact to create another surge of these type of movies. But we got to remember like Jaws created a lot of like knock offs and movies that are like trying to cash in on it in the late 70s and 80s. But remember, Jurassic Park also inspired a lot of that too, in the 90s between the technology and everything. So we had like a great resurgence of them in the 90s with like Anaconda, Lake Placid. And I finally watched one that's been on my list for a while, which was The Edge with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin, which is about this billionaire play by Anthony Hopkins, who gets lost in like the Alaska wilderness with Alec Baldwin and another guy and they have to survive Meanwhile, a man eating bear is like stalking and chasing after them. And first of all, it was the final performance of BART the bear. Rip bud and boy did he give up performance Bart the Bear was like a famous bear actor who's in like Legends of the Fall. So we worked with Anthony Hopkins twice. But what a great Performance apparently he was like the nicest bear but you would not think that and razor in the edge which is such a weird title. That's a weird movie because it's it is man versus beast but like it's it's a small part of it. But like mostly the thing the most unrealistic thing about that movie is that Anthony Hopkins plays a billionaire who's a nice guy, like no one becomes a billionaire being nice like they're you become a billionaire through exploitation.

James Jay Edwards: 50:29

So you don't think John Hammond was a nice guy in Jurassic Park?

Jacob Davidson: 50:32

He spared no expense

Jonathan Correia: 50:34

in the in the movie version is in the book. He's a bastard. There is a very big difference between John Hammond in the book Jurassic Park, and the movie, but yeah, what were some of your guys's favorite like 90s with the new technology like Man versus Beast movie

James Jay Edwards: 50:52

I loved Jurassic shark, Deep Blue Sea

Jonathan Correia: 50:59

the classic I was like wait drastic shark

James Jay Edwards: 51:04

that's what we used to call it back in the 90s deep blue sea. Which has I mean seriously the greatest one of the greatest death scenes of all time Samuel Jackson.

Jonathan Correia: 51:15

That's one of those ones and one of these days I want to start going into like the direct to video sequels to some of these because like Lake Placid has like,

Jacob Davidson: 51:22

oh, good five or six of them. Yeah, they have Lake Placid versus Anaconda

Jonathan Correia: 51:25

Anaconda has a bunch. Deep Blue Sea has three has two sequels. Same with Open Water,

James Jay Edwards: 51:33

open water to kind of when you were talking about fall, and like you know the ladder falls out. You're like, you know how crazy that is? Open water to have you guys seen it? No, no, the people basically, they take this boat out and they get all excited to go swimming in the ocean. So they jump off the side and stuff and no one put the ladder down so they couldn't get back into the Oh, I think as a king of the hill Episode Too

Jonathan Correia: 52:03

I was like This sounds very familiar. What is

James Jay Edwards: 52:07

and what makes Open Water 2 more heartbreaking is there's a baby on the boat. Oh, and they hear it crying because it's hungry. Or it's getting sunburned or something and they can't get on the boat to it. Oh, it's so that's less a shark movie than just people battling their own stupidity. Yikes. Eventually, the baby is saved. They don't kill the baby in Open Water 2. But it is. Yeah, anyway.

Jacob Davidson: 52:36

Yeah, and in terms of 90s stuff. I actually rewatched Anaconda recently at the funny enough Friday night. frights did an Animals Attacks movie marathon. So I saw a bunch of these but yeah, Anaconda still holds up and it is a wild ass movie. Just because Yeah. So it's like it's about this documentary crew including ice Ice Cube and Jennifer Lopez and Owen Wilson going out into the South American Amazon so that they can document like this lost tribe. And they happen to come upon they find John Vought on a sinking ship with the most ridiculous accent like vaguely vaguely southern accent I've ever heard. And he tries to any convinces them to go down a different path so weak because he's like a poacher trying to hunt a giant Anaconda for money. And the Anaconda starts fucking them up and killing them and eating them one by one. So it is fun. And it is interesting because it's one of those animal attacks movies where they also have a human villain to deal with like John void keeps on messing stuff up for everybody. And ya know, that then becomes John Voight versus animals,

Jonathan Correia: 53:54

which that's always entertaining to watch just Jon Voight fighting animals. I'm not advocating for people to physically fight animals but at watch John Voight fight animals, put them in a ring with a kangaroo or

Jacob Davidson: 54:04

pretty much. And you know, and it is one of those rare 90s effects movies that really holds up because they still have a lot of practical effects in there. Because, yeah, like the CG on the Anaconda is a little noticeable, but the thing is that they really mixed it with the practical stuff. So it's not as flagrant but ya know, it's still still fun.

Jonathan Correia: 54:27

That was one of the ones that like, closely tried to emulate what Jurassic Park was doing with special effects and blending practical really good practical with cutting edge, the dime CGI, and yeah, it's so effective. I forget Owen Wilson is in that movie all the time. Because there was that weird period where Owen Wilson was just in a bunch of really random big budget movies, where it's just like why but it works. What What are so we we've been talking some of our favorites. What are some man versus animals that you guys want to see that haven't really been done because I really want like a New England based man versus animal movie involving Fishers. Because if you guys don't know what fishers are, they're these fishes little kind of Wolverine type creatures. We call them Fisher cats because they eat household cats all the time. And if and the thing about them is that when they they're the noise they make sounds like crying babies so when you're like walking in the dark in the woods or down or like a road in New Hampshire, you just hear crying babies out in the distance and I always thought that would be cool just like a pack of fishers just like going after like, campers or something and you just keep hearing crying babies out of the distance in the dark, you know, and then all sudden ravish attack and whatnot.

Jacob Davidson: 55:48

That does sound intense.

James Jay Edwards: 55:49

I think I want to see the dingo Ate My Baby movie.

Jacob Davidson: 55:53

They already did that.

Jonathan Correia: 55:55

Wasn't it Meryl Streep? Well, I

Jacob Davidson: 55:56

mean, they did the drama based off of that story, you

James Jay Edwards: 55:59

know, I want to see the exploitation one. Oh, you

Jonathan Correia: 56:02

want to see like an Ozploitation? The Anvil. Man versus Dingo. Man versus Dingo. Yeah, I'm always down for Ozploitation type, because the Austraila

Jacob Davidson: 56:15

Razorback.

Jonathan Correia: 56:16

Yeah, RazorBack.

James Jay Edwards: 56:18

Yes, Razorback

Jonathan Correia: 56:19

Australia produced some of the best Jaws knockoffs with Razorback and, and a few others that I'm completely blanking on right now.

Jacob Davidson: 56:28

As for me, again, on the New England stuff, I, I would like to see a man vs lobster. Because or, you know, just just like with crustaceans, they can grow ridiculously big. And you know, there's those prehistoric lobsters and crustaceans that could like, be as big as like, as big as a bicycle. So, so yeah, I mean, just imagine, you know, like this New England fishing village is on hard times. And you know that these prehistoric lobsters arise and start eating everybody.

Jonathan Correia: 56:59

There has to be a point where someone goes, if we don't stop these lobsters now we're all chowdah.

Jacob Davidson: 57:06

Yeah, yes.

Jonathan Correia: 57:08

Yes. That could be that could be like a fun like Tremors but in the water, you know, where it's where you have to take it a little bit. You know, silly. You have to be a little silly with it, but like, you know, actually have like those moments of tension.

Jacob Davidson: 57:21

Oh, no doubt, no doubt. But, I mean, I mean, the premise of just that giant lobsters going round at people is absurd. So you got a roll of it.

Jonathan Correia: 57:29

That, uh, you know, you could do something where it's like they're getting getting hit on hard times, but they discover like the prehistoric like lobster. And so they start like harvesting them because they're like, Guys, we can we can make so much money off of the lobster meat on on these guys think of all the lobster rolls we can make. So they're trying to get him in the lobsters attack. And there's like an invasion of them. It could be like Them! but with lobsters.

James Jay Edwards: 57:54

And of course, we want the internet meme. This internet meme is actually correct. So everybody wants a Hungry Hungry Hippos movie. We need to see man versus hippo because hippos are assholes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're not as cute as you know. They as Henry hippo on the newsy review of

Jonathan Correia: 58:14

hippos eat people like yeah, Hippos like go hard as fuck.

Jacob Davidson: 58:18

Yeah, Hippos kill hundreds of people a year like they kill way more people than like sharks or bears or other stuff.

James Jay Edwards: 58:25

Where's our Hungry Hungry Hippos movie?

Jacob Davidson: 58:27

Yeah, no just four hippos get unleashed in like a grocery store and start eating everything and everybody

James Jay Edwards: 58:34

and they're all different colors. Yeah. Okay, let's end on Hungry Hungry Hippos. Someone make our Hungry Hungry Hippos movie you did it for Battleship. You did it for Clue

Jacob Davidson: 58:46

hit us up Hasbro. We know you want it?

Jonathan Correia: 58:48

We'll remember the in the after party. That was one of the movies that Dave Franco's character was it was Hungry Hungry Hippos did that they've

James Jay Edwards: 58:55

been they've been joking about it forever. And I think I think it would be a great no joke great and that and mousetrap. I think mousetrap maker great like crawl space or saw kind of a movie

Jacob Davidson: 59:05

cheese. Everybody always plays it for the device. They don't care about the game.

Jonathan Correia: 59:09

Well remember Italy, Gore Verbinski did Mouse Hunt with Nathan Lane, which was kind of mousetrap the movie but that that movie weirdly as a way to well, like that movie is really good. I don't think he had no right to be that good. I watched it again recently. But yeah, anyways, let's wrap this up. Yeah, let's

James Jay Edwards: 59:28

get out of here. What are your favorite man versus beast? I know that we we glossed over or missed some of them. There. We didn't get into

Jonathan Correia: 59:37

the Alligator movies. We didn't do the Crocodile movies the Killer Crocodile movies.

James Jay Edwards: 59:42

We totally miss Cujo, who's just a cuddly Good boy. Anyway, let us know what your favorites are. And let us know if you agree with some of our favorites. Because Grizzly totally rules I know you all agree with me. And Grizzly

Jonathan Correia: 59:55

2 is understandably a mess.

James Jay Edwards: 1:00:00

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Jonathan Correia: 1:00:35

Why not both? Why can't it be both Moby Dick and Charles why can't it be? Yeah, it's Moby Dick and jaws like yeah, it is. It's

James Jay Edwards: 1:00:44

Moby Dick slash jaws.

Jonathan Correia: 1:00:45

And why did we mention Prophecy? Isn't that your fate? This list is so long

James Jay Edwards: 1:00:51

prophecy we'll do another episode about ego horror where we talk about prophecy because,

Jonathan Correia: 1:00:57

ooh, Ico horror. I talked about The Happening.

James Jay Edwards: 1:01:00

Yes. Okay. We're gonna get out of here. So stay tuned for episode on Eco horror coming up at some point next time we're stuck for a topic file. This went away guys. We'll see you guys in a couple of weeks. So for me James Jay Edwards.

Jacob Davidson: 1:01:13

I'm Jacob Davison

Jonathan Correia: 1:01:14

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards: 1:01:16

Keep your Eye On Horror.