Eye On Horror

Mini-sode Ep.1 Scream 5

February 07, 2022 iHorror
Eye On Horror
Mini-sode Ep.1 Scream 5
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What? A mini episode?!?! Coming at you in a bit sized segment, the boys spend a little more time with Scream (2022) and get into some major spoiler territory. If you haven't seen Scream 5, do so before listening to this episode! 

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James Jay Edwards:

Welcome to Eye On Horror minisode about Scream 5. If you listen to our Scream episode, you already know that we loved it. So let's hop right into the stuff that the spoilery stuff if you have not seen Scream, or Scream 5 as we're calling it, go see it and then listen to this because we're gonna spoil everything about it.

Jonathan Correia:

Basically, this is all the stuff we can't talk about because we don't want to ruin it. So we're gonna ruin it here because you are taking the initiative to say I have Scream 5 and am ok with you telling me all this stuff.

James Jay Edwards:

Now. Let's jump right into the biggest spoiler. Aside from who the killers are. They hinted in the publicity that not everyone's gonna make it out alive. Well. Our buddy Dewey dies. Rip. Yes. And he gets we talked about the anger of Ghostface. Well, yeah, Ghostface gets freakin angry at Deweyy.

Jacob Davidson:

I'm not even angry. It's like Vindictive

James Jay Edwards:

Yes, yes. Well, yeah, exactly. And the thing is, and this this bums me out so hard, because and this happens in so many horror movies. Do we had a frickin chance? Yeah, yeah. But but but it's almost like his own lust for vengeance got to him. Right. He had a chance to basically kill ghosts face and he didn't take it. So the tables were turned.

Jacob Davidson:

He had to shoot him in the head.

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, he was. He was about

Jacob Davidson:

to. Yeah, and I do I do like that the I feel like the bulletproof vest is kind of a throwback to Scream 3.

James Jay Edwards:

Right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Jonathan Correia:

But it also makes sense to wear a bulletproof vest. I mean, like, come on, you're gonna deal with law enforcement if you're running around murdering people.

Jacob Davidson:

Yeah, and

Jonathan Correia:

it was fitting because I especially in rewatching him like, very taken back on how great of a character do he is and Scream 1, you know, like, he is a bit dopey but like, it's, you know, it's a realistic genuine dopiness. That's just like a part of him and then by like, and then immediately the Scream 2 is kind of a caricature and by Scream 3s very much, so a caricature, but it's kind of allowed kind of, they kind of redeem a little bit more than four but like five having him like, have a complete arc with like, you know, a, you know, they asked me to step down and why we, you know, ended up divorcing a gal and like, you know, just kind of life in shambles and felt more so like, adding more depth to his character, you saw a lot of growth with him. That didn't mean he had to die, but it definitely made that death feel more of an impact. You know, I don't know if with what they were doing with the Gale and Sydney if that would have had that much of an impact. You know what I mean?

James Jay Edwards:

He do he is I mean, of course everyone routes for Sydney. Gale. Gale Gail's a double edged sword because parts of her are so self centered that you just want to smack her but then she always comes through in the end, but up front to back is always been just this lovable. You know, the fact that he was Tatum's brother in the first one years ago. Mom says you have to call me deputy he's always just been this lovable dude. So that's why and I think that Kevin Williamson realize that when he's like all we have to kill Dewey he's kind of the only one people will cheer if we kill kill Gail because of cuz she kind of well she's audience well, yeah, and Sydney we can't kill because that's the meal ticket. Well, Sydney is also kind of she's got like this Laurie strode thing going on now. Or like a Sarah Connor where she's almost invincible at this point. Yeah, but do he isn't so I mean, I can see why they made the choice to kill Dewey because also you have to do it

Jacob Davidson:

with the lowest point of any of the previous characters because yeah, he lost his job. He lost his marriage he he was an alcoholic you know he just kind of went off the rails. Yeah, but even

Jonathan Correia:

like it not only in for the movie but for the movie within the movie with the recall that you know, because the big reveal was that these guys weren't related to Sydney or any of them it was just that they were toxic fandoms yeah you know they wanted to revive the stab franchise by giving it new material because stab it was so bad. I don't know how he could be that bad with a chrome face goes face at a flame Matthew

Jacob Davidson:

Lillard killer but also

James Jay Edwards:

the the one the people they were going after all were relatives of the original screen people and I want to ask both you guys something because I feel like one another one of the spoilery things is that Sam or last names carpenter in the movie, but she the very first time we see her that the spoilery thing is she is Billy Loomis is illegitimate kid. You know she her mom had an affair with Billy Loomis. So he's her father. And I swear when we first meet her, she's sitting on the curb outside the bowling alley and she's popping some pills cuz she takes you know, she's take psych pills, and her boyfriend comes up and says, Loomis, I swear he calls her Loomis. Did either you guys hear that? Or me? And I knew this before I knew who her dad was. But I also have a dog named Loomis. So I might hear Loomis. But I swear, he said, Loomis, and then she like, you know, to get her attention. So I don't know. I might have to look and see if I can find a copy of the script somewhere and see what he actually says.

Jonathan Correia:

Right? Oh, we're just watching with subtitles. That was one of the I'm a little spoiled by home theater watching because there was a point during scream five where I was like, I missed that line. Look, I can't go back. I can't tell you what,

James Jay Edwards:

I do that in my real life. I will like I'll be driving and something will happen. And I'll want to DVR it back. But I can't because it's real life. I know. Spoiled by TV. This is what the pandemic has done to us.

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah. But how beautiful because like, that was the thing, especially with the first trilogy of scream with scream three. They went real hard with the slut shaming of Sydney's mom with scream three, like it was it was just like, do look at all these liars. She's destroyed. We have three movies of slides that Sydney's mom's mom has destroyed by being a raging slight was like the premise of the first three. And so I'm really glad with these new ones that they've kind of swayed away from that. And it's been more about like, like, the fourth one was about the infamous you know, Sydney becoming famous because of it and has her cousin wanting that legacy. Yeah, wanting that legacy. Wanting that. 15 minutes of fame in this new one. It's about toxic fandom. them feeling like they own it more than the people who went through it and are willing to be so toxic that they murder for it, you know, because they're gonna want to have better material for it.

Jacob Davidson:

Yeah, it all goes back to that infamous line from Billy Loomis. You know, movies don't create psychos movies make psychos more creative.

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah. Speaking of Billy Loomis, what did you guys think about him as like the dark passenger?

James Jay Edwards:

I thought I guess that was actually skeet. Ulrich. It was

Jonathan Correia:

it? Was they DH Tim Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's

James Jay Edwards:

the thing. They frickin grambo target him or something? Because he like I didn't think was that bad. Yeah. Notice, no Target and Target look awesome. In row one. It's the Princess Leia at the end. Yeah, video game character. Tarkin. Was was great.

Jonathan Correia:

Well, Loomis, will Billy look good. And five during dark scenes. The DEA agent didn't look that bad. There was like one daytime one where he's like, in the backseat where it's just like, whoo, I see the lions. Yeah. Yeah, but like, I didn't think the DEA agent was bad. I thought the performance from him was real good. But also why? Like, I found myself being like, Why Why does she need this dark passenger? Why would she know what he looks like? Why would she know what he sounds like? Like, why would if she did not know Him? And didn't know about him until their teenage years? Why would he be such a big presence in the back of her mind? Is she really broken? Is this something that like, if you're gonna sit there and tell me that toxic fandom duo, we're the ones putting that in her head that so that seems like a bit of a reach. You know what I mean?

James Jay Edwards:

And that's the thing you were the last thing we're gonna spoil. Which is what? You know this it's a spoiler and you kind of alluded to it. The Killers. One of them is the boyfriend of Samantha. Jack Wade. Yeah. Who knew of her connection to all this stuff. And, you know, he tags along with her when she goes home because the whole catalyst in the movie is her sister gets attacked by ghosts face doesn't die. So she comes back to you know, help her sister through it. And her sisters, I carry her brother, her boyfriend is like, Yeah, I'll come with you. And it turns out, there's another reason why he wants to come with it. Because he's one of the killers and of course, because there's two the other one is one of their friends who this is the toxic fandom. One who wasn't related. Anybody that was from the original was she from the original crime. She's just friends with all of them like that.

Jonathan Correia:

No, she just lived in the house. She has a house so her family's house when her family moved in her story was that her family moved into the Sue's house where the finale of the first scream happened and then when she found out about that she got really into it got became a big fan of this of the stab movies, and then just became an obsessive fan so she had no blood relations. Yeah,

James Jay Edwards:

but Randy's niece and nephew because I saw an Indian Jad. Yeah, I saw a cute tweet from Heather matter Ozzy who plays Randy sister. She's all We're not supposed to talk about spoilers for scream five is my being in it a spoiler? Because she's in it.

Jacob Davidson:

And also I like that the killer is apparently hooked up over Reddit, the screen the stab

James Jay Edwards:

subreddit, the stab subreddit, that's where they met.

Jacob Davidson:

Go figure. Yeah, no, I thought it was very topical in the way that you know, scream tak have a lot of the trends and you know, like positions of horror at the time and 96 and so it only made sense that the new screen would butt heads with, you know, kind of the current trends and goings ons, not even just horror, but kind of fandom and fate of film in general, you know, just kind of all the stuff about recalls and toxic fans and internet culture. And also I do love how, like every ghost phase kind of gets a tech upgrade for the for you know, whatever decade they're in and so this one you know, had like all the smart Well, these goes faces had like this smartphone stuff and like the security locks and they had the neck voice changer. So you know, this is just a so all the tech stuff like that. It's always interesting, kind of just how goes phase updates for the times both culturally and technologically?

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, still not as bad as what was it? And I'm glad they never went for it, basically. But they made the joke and screamed for about the Facebook's Ghostface killer. Like I'm glad that they never fully did that in like Scream movie like, but they just made that joke like we could have done it. But we did and the bad knockoffs in our inverse did isn't that like kind of the new the fun thing like ever since they established like that the stab movies exist is that they could do stuff like that, where it's like, hey, you know that really bad idea you had in the second draft? We're gonna put that in the stab. Because your ideas of

Jacob Davidson:

time travel?

James Jay Edwards:

Yeah, I still want to know how stab three exists after the events of screen three.

Jonathan Correia:

Okay, first of all, I've seen people make this make this quick. I have this question on Twitter. And it's pretty obvious. Obviously, they never finished the screen. The Step Three that was being filmed in scream three. That puts most of the people were dead. They might have used that footage, but it would have been a bad taste. They clearly went back maybe a year later and did it but basically made Step Three scream three based on what the events of Scream three, you know, so I probably

James Jay Edwards:

read about the making of it is about the making of the old set.

Jonathan Correia:

Yeah, it was about the murders that happen while making saplings. So I bet it was I bet Step Three was murder as fuck whatever that it was found

James Jay Edwards:

footage.

Jonathan Correia:

It could have been. I mean, but it's weird because everyone's like oh, well who finished scream three and all that but they said in four I think it was that only the first three were based off of Sydney's life and that she sued after they couldn't use the material anymore. But in scream five they alluded that it wasn't boy it was like flip around something like that. I remember there being some continuity error about it no longer being about Cindy's life after three but then there was like some stuff going on with like the sequence where it was I don't know. That's been the one that's messed me. We know they finished step three we know this.

James Jay Edwards:

Cuz then there wouldn't have been a stamp for us to have five or Yeah,

Jonathan Correia:

or step six with the time travel. Was it was it SAP six I don't know. I need to beef up on my in first moves.

James Jay Edwards:

I love that about scream for how they're like three different beginnings and watching stab movies. It

Jacob Davidson:

is good. Yeah, it is so meta creates an aura burrows

Jonathan Correia:

plus, who doesn't relate to when the Anna Paquin and Kristen Bell bit were shut up your movie just it's just so cheesy, you know? And then you're sitting there worried like oh, God, are they gonna do eight more of these like fake out intros Jesus?

James Jay Edwards:

They should have done another one that's like two thirds of the way into the movie. You just say you didn't even know you were watching stab.

Jonathan Correia:

That what would be great is if they make a screen movie, but all it is a step. 10. Right. But you don't know it step 10 until the end, and then it's just Sidney and Gail sitting in the audience go What the fuck was that? And that's my lawyer on the phone. But that's the thing is if they really screw up a screen movie, that's all they have to do is just add a mid credit scene of them going what was that? And then it's just like, Oh, you went so meta. You actually made a stab movie to save.

James Jay Edwards:

Geez, okay, on that. That's that's that's it right here. This spoiled scream five for you in more ways than one.

Jonathan Correia:

And also throw out some ideas on how to ruin the franchise.

Jacob Davidson:

Thank you Hollywood.

James Jay Edwards:

Alright, so um, yeah, I hope that you watch screen Five before you listen to that, otherwise there's no need because we just told you all the good parts. No, no watch it. We will see you with the next episode. Until then I'm James Jay Edwards.

Jacob Davidson:

I'm Jacob Davison,

Jonathan Correia:

and I'm Jonathan Correia.

James Jay Edwards:

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